Avalon 6 Vs Antminer S7, which one you will choose?

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Quote from: itop_james on September 28, 2015, 07:26:09 AM

It is said Avalon will start to ship the Avalon 6 at the end of Oct,2015 , hashing rate : 3.5T , Power consuming : 300W / T , price: USD 315 / T .
After calculation, Avalon 6 will be USD60 /T less and 70W/T more if antminer keep the same price with the next bath.

It is no official news and no photo right now , but it is been pre-saling on some chinese website.

I hope Avalon will do better job on noise level of Avalon 6, then can get more customers on the current hard situation.

Please post out your idea for this ..

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Update on 21th Oct.:
Avalon finally get their newest bitcoin miner Avalon6 spec in public

Avalon6 Specification
Hash rate 　3.65T±10%
Power at wall 1100W（power efficiency 90%）。
Quantity of chip 80
Power connector 4x 6PIN，you need to connect all 4 connectors when running
Cooling fan 12038, current min: 1.6A ,Max:2.8A
Max speed: 3800RPM
Temperature Max Temperature of intake :38℃
Controller Raspberry PI（version 1，B，B+），。
Each Raspberry PI can control 60 units
AUC max 6 units can be connected in series with each AUC
Protection The machine will not start when the fan is damaged 。
Dimension 136×150×334mm
Weight 4.8kg
INGRESS PROTECTION IP20
Power supply 1200W 80 plus gold power supply recommended
Voltage min:11.7V max: 12.2V

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Quote from: chikenfeed on April 13, 2016, 05:39:39 AM

oops my bad... as if you would want to under clock tho anyways the deltas in getting in are 46.8W witch is more then the stock fans so im not sure if its going to destroy my s7 Sad

I'm not convinced the TFC will draw more than the factory fans on the S7, I thought I remember reading that was the fan they were using on the S7's (or at least the same specs..)

And as for being capable of handling the draw, the new S7 (https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201603310959482268cfunbq106E5) uses a single 6000RPM fan instead of the 2x 4000RPM fans, and guaranteed it draws more than the TFC1212DE does. You will be fine with that fan from a controller point of view.

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oops my bad... as if you would want to under clock tho anyways the deltas in getting in are 46.8W witch is more then the stock fans so im not sure if its going to destroy my s7 Sad

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Quote from: chikenfeed on April 11, 2016, 10:24:42 PM

Quote from: kingcolex on October 27, 2015, 10:41:45 AM

Quote from: Finksy on October 27, 2015, 10:37:06 AM

I'll take a delta over pretty much anything else on the market, 8 out of 7 days of the week. There aren't many others I would trust to keep a $2k investment from burning itself down.

Seriously? There are plenty of good fans out there that are reliable and quieter, Noctuas like i said earlier are pretty damn prestigious in the fan world, I haven't heard of anyone having issues with them.

dont know about the other s5 and s4 n stuff but my s7 antminer fan died and i tried 2 of the top of the line Noctua fans they went at about 3500rpm and the air coming out wasen't even half of what the stock fans do, my s7 started heating up fast so i returned the Noctuas and now ordered the Original Delta 12038 fan 12V 3.9A TFC1212DE hope the voltage gona be ok for the s7 not sure if they are exactly the same amps as the stock fans.

Those will be fine. But no point in commenting on this thread, its a 2015 old dead thread, it was started when we were speculating about S7 and A6. The Noctuas would be good fans if you undervolted and underclocked the S7.

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Quote from: kingcolex on October 27, 2015, 10:41:45 AM

Quote from: Finksy on October 27, 2015, 10:37:06 AM

I'll take a delta over pretty much anything else on the market, 8 out of 7 days of the week. There aren't many others I would trust to keep a $2k investment from burning itself down.

Seriously? There are plenty of good fans out there that are reliable and quieter, Noctuas like i said earlier are pretty damn prestigious in the fan world, I haven't heard of anyone having issues with them.

dont know about the other s5 and s4 n stuff but my s7 antminer fan died and i tried 2 of the top of the line Noctua fans they went at about 3500rpm and the air coming out wasen't even half of what the stock fans do, my s7 started heating up fast so i returned the Noctuas and now ordered the Original Delta 12038 fan 12V 3.9A TFC1212DE hope the voltage gona be ok for the s7 not sure if they are exactly the same amps as the stock fans.

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on January 24, 2016, 10:07:18 PM

Quote from: talks_cheep on January 24, 2016, 10:05:54 PM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on January 24, 2016, 09:50:48 PM

Quote from: talks_cheep on January 24, 2016, 09:48:21 PM

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Tongue

Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

You know nothing, VirosaGITS!

"Sell bitcoins when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone goes in a buying frenzy. Buy bitcoins when bitcoin is low. Tongue

Buy miners when bitcoin is high, I guess"

There I fixed it for you!

Naw people buy Miners at crazy high prices when the BTC price because they think the price will continue raising non stop or something. You could sell a S5 for 500$ last time.

I have to give VirosaGITS credit, he is actually out there buying miners and mining with them. He is a miner I could be seen as siding with him as I to enjoy mining.

If you buy a miner when BTC is "low" and it rises you can make money off of sell as long as price did not go down and difficulty is not surging. We saw this with machines when we were getting "low" bumps on difficulty for the longest time if BTC rised you could sell a miner for higher. With difficulty jumping so much right now and btc not jumping it's hard to show this. But it has happened in past.

On your BTC being "cheap" under 600 I don't think that is really true. If market believed that we would be much closer to 600 then 400. We hope it rises, but were not there right now. Cheap was when we hit 350 or so not to long ago.... that was quick profit for some.

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Quote from: talks_cheep on January 24, 2016, 10:05:54 PM

Quote from: VirosaGITS on January 24, 2016, 09:50:48 PM

Quote from: talks_cheep on January 24, 2016, 09:48:21 PM

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Tongue

Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

You know nothing, VirosaGITS!

"Sell bitcoins when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone goes in a buying frenzy. Buy bitcoins when bitcoin is low. Tongue

Buy miners when bitcoin is high, I guess"

There I fixed it for you!

Naw people buy Miners at crazy high prices when the BTC price because they think the price will continue raising non stop or something. You could sell a S5 for 500$ last time.

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on January 24, 2016, 09:50:48 PM

Quote from: talks_cheep on January 24, 2016, 09:48:21 PM

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Tongue

Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

You know nothing, VirosaGITS!

"Sell bitcoins when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone goes in a buying frenzy. Buy bitcoins when bitcoin is low. Tongue

Buy miners when bitcoin is high, I guess"

There I fixed it for you!

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Quote from: talks_cheep on January 24, 2016, 09:48:21 PM

A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

I don,t know about that.

Sell ASIC's when bitcoin is soaring, because everyone go in a buying frenzy. Buy Miners when Bitcoin is low. Tongue

Same thing with BTC for buying, i guess.

I'd rather just have more miners however.

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A wise man once said, "When bitcoin price is high, buy miners; when bitcoin price is low, buy bitcoin."

I think the price is low currently, so buying bitcoin should be the rule of thumb. How do you know when bitcoin price is high or low? If bitcoin price around $600, it's high, time to buy miners, below $600 is time to buy bitcoins.

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Quote from: VirosaGITS on January 24, 2016, 06:41:23 PM

Quote from: newcoins1978 on January 24, 2016, 02:59:55 PM

None of them. I rather wait for the next generation miners.
Looking at the difficulty i got no trust this machine will even get me my investment back, let alone make a profit.

But when the next batch arrive, the difficulty will raise again like it is now and you will see about the same profits as now. It will always be like this. The problem is probably your running costs and not the miner's efficiency.

A lot of the people who say "I'm waiting on next gen" never end up being miners. Truth is there always will be a next gen. Does not matter what miner you buy it will one day be replaced. A lot justify it with themself's and say they are waiting.... but the truth is most never get in the game.

Having is coming if your going to mine do some ROI and jump in. If your sitting on side you might think about buying BTC, is only other thing that some can argue it's better all depends on situation.

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1. In mining you should mine yesterday....

2. If he is speaking about concurrency between miner producers, he is right, but go back and read no. 1 again....

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Quote from: newcoins1978 on January 24, 2016, 02:59:55 PM

None of them. I rather wait for the next generation miners.
Looking at the difficulty i got no trust this machine will even get me my investment back, let alone make a profit.

But when the next batch arrive, the difficulty will raise again like it is now and you will see about the same profits as now. It will always be like this. The problem is probably your running costs and not the miner's efficiency.

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edit after b8 has arrived in the house:

s7 any batch but not 6, 8 & 9!

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None of them. I rather wait for the next generation miners.
Looking at the difficulty i got no trust this machine will even get me my investment back, let alone make a profit.

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Right now i got both A6s and a S7 B8 and i'm strongly self-debating getting one last unit. I have strongly mixed feeling between getting something like a Batch 7 S7 or any other S7 that has high chip count or high efficiency or a last A6.

Quote from: philipma1957 on January 23, 2016, 08:13:59 PM

Quote from: talks_cheep on January 23, 2016, 07:42:35 PM

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

We all hope for better. I am convinced miners see the glass as half full and the server is coming by to top it off.😀

Its not that bad, with cheap electricity, you can be looking at a slowish break even at current BTC price + average 5-7% diff raises until halving. But if the price of BTC keep up, it would actually be great profit.

And when its time to sell, the unit will still be worth something, so thats a plus.

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Quote from: adaseb on January 23, 2016, 08:21:56 PM

Quote from: talks_cheep on January 23, 2016, 07:42:35 PM

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

But if the price of BTC doesn't sky rocket or if it stays the same or goes down, your miner will be worth something at least.

That is the thing if you use it and bought something and it goes down... you might get a better deal. Part of this is luck and part of this is news, we have had some crap news in last month. Cryptsy and dev who wanted to leave with a bang.

So you can never predict what will happen for sure. I think long term holding it will go up. But how much and when.... not sure on that.

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Quote from: talks_cheep on January 23, 2016, 07:42:35 PM

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

But if the price of BTC doesn't sky rocket or if it stays the same or goes down, your miner will be worth something at least.

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Quote from: talks_cheep on January 23, 2016, 07:42:35 PM

I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

We all hope for better. I am convinced miners see the glass as half full and the server is coming by to top it off.😀

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I bought 2 S7 B9 and now am awaiting arrival of said miners. However, I'm having a buyer's remorse. I think I should've kept my btc instead. Bitcoin price will rocket up this year, this much is certain. Mining is always a losing game due to diff rocketing up even more than price. We're all playing a fool's game. The only people guaranteed to profit are the Chinese factories and factory owners. Why are we so stupid???

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