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Topic: Avalon 6 Vs Antminer S7, which one you will choose? - page 3. (Read 38842 times)

sr. member
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I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.

There's not a S7+ version, am i misunderstanding?

And now the latest batches of S7's have the same efficiency as the Avalon6, so not the only reason to stick with S7 is the GH/$, since the Avalon6 has a much better build quality.

The avalon 6 comes at 3.5th/s (thats hoping you have a warm room since they run lower in the cold) and the S7 is 4.8th/s. You can get the S7 plus shipping below $1100 currently. You can ONLY get the Avalon for $1112 in the current group buy and living in the US.

The better deal is the S7. People assumed the Avalon 6 would be able to flex by changing the volts but has not been the case at all.

You can order an S7 Batch 9 with shipping and import fees that will likely cost about $1150 and it isn't shipping for several weeks.  A better comparison would be the Batch 8 which will run you close to $1300 shipped with import fees and ships now.  

As for overclocking the Avalon.  I get 3.8-4 Th at 12.2-12.4 volts all day long.  

Not to mention the USA warranty - I had 1 Avalon6 replaced and it was as simple as calling them and sending it to California.  Try that with Bitmain.  I would also bet that the Batch 8 and 9 S7 have a much higher failure rate than the Avalon6.

Not to mention I get the Avalon6 in 2-3 days while people wait on an S7 for weeks.  I make up the difference by the time yours arrives.

USA there is no import fees which reduces the cost. Also long term, 1 th/s more per miner will out perform avalon 6 even getting them 2 weeks earlier.
legendary
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I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.

There's not a S7+ version, am i misunderstanding?

And now the latest batches of S7's have the same efficiency as the Avalon6, so not the only reason to stick with S7 is the GH/$, since the Avalon6 has a much better build quality.

The avalon 6 comes at 3.5th/s (thats hoping you have a warm room since they run lower in the cold) and the S7 is 4.8th/s. You can get the S7 plus shipping below $1100 currently. You can ONLY get the Avalon for $1112 in the current group buy and living in the US.

The better deal is the S7. People assumed the Avalon 6 would be able to flex by changing the volts but has not been the case at all.

You can order an S7 Batch 9 with shipping and import fees that will likely cost about $1150 and it isn't shipping for several weeks.  A better comparison would be the Batch 8 which will run you close to $1300 shipped with import fees and ships now.  

As for overclocking the Avalon.  I get 3.8-4 Th at 12.2-12.4 volts all day long.  

Not to mention the USA warranty - I had 1 Avalon6 replaced and it was as simple as calling them and sending it to California.  Try that with Bitmain.  I would also bet that the Batch 8 and 9 S7 have a much higher failure rate than the Avalon6.

Not to mention I get the Avalon6 in 2-3 days while people wait on an S7 for weeks.  I make up the difference by the time yours arrives.
legendary
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I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.

There's not a S7+ version, am i misunderstanding?

And now the latest batches of S7's have the same efficiency as the Avalon6, so not the only reason to stick with S7 is the GH/$, since the Avalon6 has a much better build quality.

The avalon 6 comes at 3.5th/s (thats hoping you have a warm room since they run lower in the cold) and the S7 is 4.8th/s. You can get the S7 plus shipping below $1100 currently. You can ONLY get the Avalon for $1112 in the current group buy and living in the US.

The better deal is the S7. People assumed the Avalon 6 would be able to flex by changing the volts but has not been the case at all.

I'm getting some some used A6, it came down a bit more expensive than S7 B9 per GH, but i will get them 2 weeks before, which will get me 14.5% to ROI. Getting them "now" will actually bridge the gap between A6 (getting them NOW) and S7, getting them in 2 to 3 maybe 4 weeks.

The time when you get the miners is important too.
sr. member
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I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.

There's not a S7+ version, am i misunderstanding?

And now the latest batches of S7's have the same efficiency as the Avalon6, so not the only reason to stick with S7 is the GH/$, since the Avalon6 has a much better build quality.

The avalon 6 comes at 3.5th/s (thats hoping you have a warm room since they run lower in the cold) and the S7 is 4.8th/s. You can get the S7 plus shipping below $1100 currently. You can ONLY get the Avalon for $1112 in the current group buy and living in the US.

The better deal is the S7. People assumed the Avalon 6 would be able to flex by changing the volts but has not been the case at all.
legendary
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.

There's not a S7+ version, am i misunderstanding?

And now the latest batches of S7's have the same efficiency as the Avalon6, so not the only reason to stick with S7 is the GH/$, since the Avalon6 has a much better build quality.

You are right, there ain't any S7+ version...
The latest batches of S7 are cheaper, and they are more efficient than Avalon 6 in terms of Hash rates, while Avalon gives you 3.86 TH/s, S7 gives you up to 4.75 TH/s which is way better than Avalon...
What will you do with the build quality since you are going to get your ROI in less time with S7???
And both are machines, so nothing comes with a guarantee here (in few means)...
legendary
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Can we please stay on-topic?
newbie
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they rely on having a bulky miners with the plus version than anything else, look at the s5+ as an example, which is more efficient only because there is downvolt...

the only + that has been out that has been bulky is the s5+ .... s3+ was the exact same size and s4+ was slightly smaller then the regular s4

with bulky i mean that it deliver more hash, without having a better efficiency, if not for some downvolting or downclocking, which can be done manually with the non"+" version

Gotcha!! my misunderstanding! but ya i agree then lol expecially s3+ just had a diff firmware and sticker that said s3+ lol
legendary
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they rely on having a bulky miners with the plus version than anything else, look at the s5+ as an example, which is more efficient only because there is downvolt...

the only + that has been out that has been bulky is the s5+ .... s3+ was the exact same size and s4+ was slightly smaller then the regular s4

with bulky i mean that it deliver more hash, without having a better efficiency, if not for some downvolting or downclocking, which can be done manually with the non"+" version
newbie
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they rely on having a bulky miners with the plus version than anything else, look at the s5+ as an example, which is more efficient only because there is downvolt...

the only + that has been out that has been bulky is the s5+ .... s3+ was the exact same size and s4+ was slightly smaller then the regular s4
legendary
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also i doubt the plus version is much more efficient, usually they have a slightly more efficiency, and a much better hashrate

they rely on having a bulky miners with the plus version than anything else, look at the s5+ as an example, which is more efficient only because there is downvolt...
legendary
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I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.

There's not a S7+ version, am i misunderstanding?

And now the latest batches of S7's have the same efficiency as the Avalon6, so not the only reason to stick with S7 is the GH/$, since the Avalon6 has a much better build quality.

No misunderstanding there is not a S7+.  It would not suprise me if they do have one day... but no sign of it yet.   Right now they have batch 9 that is cheaper so they won't do any change before that goes to sale.   

If they were going to change product it would be after then.  But I'm not sure they might milk current design a few more batches.  They have a design ow with less chips and high freq.  Which should mean more profit for them.   
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.

There's not a S7+ version, am i misunderstanding?

And now the latest batches of S7's have the same efficiency as the Avalon6, so not the only reason to stick with S7 is the GH/$, since the Avalon6 has a much better build quality.
full member
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Mining Bitcoins Since 2010
I prefer Antminer s7 on Avalon 6.
The new Antminer S7 Plus is much more efficient.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
The current choice of a basic miner should be S7 based on many things like price of the machine, BTC2.8 (BTC2.4 if one goes for 9th Batch), whereas one needs to pay >BTC3 which makes no sense as it consumes more electricity than S7 and produces lesser results...

Its quiet and much better build quality, but yeah. ASIC mining is pretty much all about ROI, so i can't say Avalon's model is very good to the small miner. Apparently you get much better prices if you buy in bulk, which is not really the case with the few cents saving per unit offer of Bitmain's.

Correct this is why I would choose a S7 and not the Avalon.
They are both great asic miners, but in terms of getting your ROI asap, which is very important now the difficulty is finding new highs every day, the Antminers S7 is the winner.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1068
The current choice of a basic miner should be S7 based on many things like price of the machine, BTC2.8 (BTC2.4 if one goes for 9th Batch), whereas one needs to pay >BTC3 which makes no sense as it consumes more electricity than S7 and produces lesser results...

Its quiet and much better build quality, but yeah. ASIC mining is pretty much all about ROI, so i can't say Avalon's model is very good to the small miner. Apparently you get much better prices if you buy in bulk, which is not really the case with the few cents saving per unit offer of Bitmain's.
legendary
Activity: 1246
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
The current choice of a basic miner should be S7 based on many things like price of the machine, BTC2.8 (BTC2.4 if one goes for 9th Batch), whereas one needs to pay >BTC3 which makes no sense as it consumes more electricity than S7 and produces lesser results...
legendary
Activity: 1456
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There is something about Innosilicon that doesn't quite make sense. Why go public and push the A4 chip when LTC mining is a much smaller market. Really what is the future of LTC?

I agree that the A4 makes no sense at all. They probably decided to make it when litecoin had a little pump a while back to 6$ or so. Bet they regret that, now.

They're making the A3 also, though, right? That's their new SHA256 chip. I really hope they and their partners come out swinging at bitmain.

They said they were making both which does seem kinda crazy to R/D 2 chip's at the same time.   They were HUGE on selling A1 chips, if they are as good with A3's they could be a decent force.  Also something unique is they tend to sell chips so we could see multiple companies sell A3 machines if they stick with old model of sell.

I have kinda lost a little hope as they announced it so long ago.  Just seems like it's been quite a while.  But I hope they do make it even though they seem to be pretty quiet.

This might also indicate that for a chip house like Innosilicon, to get to first mining chip prototype, costs <$100k?

It's hard to say on cost with being a private company we will never know this most likely.  Chip making is pretty secret, I'm surprised they mentioned it so early. 

I imagine they are pretty busy if truly doing 2 chips at once.  I think A3 will be main focus and released before A4, but that is speculation.  They made a lot of money from early on so it's hard to say what their budget is on chip R/D.
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There is something about Innosilicon that doesn't quite make sense. Why go public and push the A4 chip when LTC mining is a much smaller market. Really what is the future of LTC?

I agree that the A4 makes no sense at all. They probably decided to make it when litecoin had a little pump a while back to 6$ or so. Bet they regret that, now.

They're making the A3 also, though, right? That's their new SHA256 chip. I really hope they and their partners come out swinging at bitmain.

They said they were making both which does seem kinda crazy to R/D 2 chip's at the same time.   They were HUGE on selling A1 chips, if they are as good with A3's they could be a decent force.  Also something unique is they tend to sell chips so we could see multiple companies sell A3 machines if they stick with old model of sell.

I have kinda lost a little hope as they announced it so long ago.  Just seems like it's been quite a while.  But I hope they do make it even though they seem to be pretty quiet.

This might also indicate that for a chip house like Innosilicon, to get to first mining chip prototype, costs <$100k?
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
There is something about Innosilicon that doesn't quite make sense. Why go public and push the A4 chip when LTC mining is a much smaller market. Really what is the future of LTC?

I agree that the A4 makes no sense at all. They probably decided to make it when litecoin had a little pump a while back to 6$ or so. Bet they regret that, now.

They're making the A3 also, though, right? That's their new SHA256 chip. I really hope they and their partners come out swinging at bitmain.

They said they were making both which does seem kinda crazy to R/D 2 chip's at the same time.   They were HUGE on selling A1 chips, if they are as good with A3's they could be a decent force.  Also something unique is they tend to sell chips so we could see multiple companies sell A3 machines if they stick with old model of sell.

I have kinda lost a little hope as they announced it so long ago.  Just seems like it's been quite a while.  But I hope they do make it even though they seem to be pretty quiet.
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
There is something about Innosilicon that doesn't quite make sense. Why go public and push the A4 chip when LTC mining is a much smaller market. Really what is the future of LTC?

I agree that the A4 makes no sense at all. They probably decided to make it when litecoin had a little pump a while back to 6$ or so. Bet they regret that, now.

They're making the A3 also, though, right? That's their new SHA256 chip. I really hope they and their partners come out swinging at bitmain.
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