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Quote from: HagssFIN on June 20, 2016, 10:33:14 AM

Quote from: notlist3d on June 20, 2016, 10:05:18 AM

Quote from: HagssFIN on June 19, 2016, 08:59:14 AM

Looks like Avalon 7 could be using ~~a Zynq as a control board~~ a Zynq based control board.
Maybe this model..

This makes no sense though, the price on the SOC are way too expensive for just being a controller. I don't get it, even if they had a deal at the prices (looks around $400 for this board) I don't see how it beats a pi.

I don't think it beat's the RPI, and the simple fact is we don't need much more for a controller. A RPI 3 for 35ish dollars has a ton of power for the money and a big community behind it, where you can use it for many other things besides mining if you have one laying around.
The controller I would love to see one use is the RPI Zero - https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/ . It is at a pricepoint of 5 dollars. I mean to get one some day and play around with it but have not got to that project yet. Not sure if still like it was but it was very hard to find one for the retail price, most were selling for decent amount more.

Yeah, I only took that product as an example.
It could be another model and with less functions, like Bitmain has done with Beaglebone Black board.

Based on the code it would be some Zynq -based control board model by Xilinx.

Still they all seem very expensive, couldn't find reasonably priced ones on aliexpress either.

130 for a lot of 500 seems far too high,

but maybe it eliminates the daughter board that is inside the avalon6 , still it seems costly..

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Quote from: notlist3d on June 20, 2016, 10:05:18 AM

Quote from: HagssFIN on June 19, 2016, 08:59:14 AM

Looks like Avalon 7 could be using ~~a Zynq as a control board~~ a Zynq based control board.
Maybe this model..

This makes no sense though, the price on the SOC are way too expensive for just being a controller. I don't get it, even if they had a deal at the prices (looks around $400 for this board) I don't see how it beats a pi.

I don't think it beat's the RPI, and the simple fact is we don't need much more for a controller. A RPI 3 for 35ish dollars has a ton of power for the money and a big community behind it, where you can use it for many other things besides mining if you have one laying around.
The controller I would love to see one use is the RPI Zero - https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/ . It is at a pricepoint of 5 dollars. I mean to get one some day and play around with it but have not got to that project yet. Not sure if still like it was but it was very hard to find one for the retail price, most were selling for decent amount more.

Yeah, I only took that product as an example.
It could be another model and with less functions, like Bitmain has done with Beaglebone Black board.

Based on the code it would be some Zynq -based control board model by Xilinx.

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Quote from: HagssFIN on June 19, 2016, 08:59:14 AM

Looks like Avalon 7 could be using a Zynq as a control board.
Maybe this model ? :
http://zedboard.org/product/zynq-mmp

See this piece of code: https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/cgminer-openwrt-packages/blob/master/cgminer/data/config.avalon7.zedboard

This makes no sense though, the price on the SOC are way too expensive for just being a controller. I don't get it, even if they had a deal at the prices (looks around $400 for this board) I don't see how it beats a pi.

I don't think it beat's the RPI, and the simple fact is we don't need much more for a controller. A RPI 3 for 35ish dollars has a ton of power for the money and a big community behind it, where you can use it for many other things besides mining if you have one laying around.

The controller I would love to see one use is the RPI Zero - https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/ . It is at a pricepoint of 5 dollars. I mean to get one some day and play around with it but have not got to that project yet. Not sure if still like it was but it was very hard to find one for the retail price, most were selling for decent amount more.

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but this one is 130 in bulk

http://zedboard.org/product/microzed

7010 PicoZed SOM
Price (USD)
1-$178
100-$165
500-$146
1,000+-$130

Part Number: AES-Z7PZ-7Z010-SOM-G

still costly but the company has a lot of gear so they may have something that is cheaper

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Looks like Avalon 7 could be using ~~a Zynq as a control board~~ a Zynq based control board.
Maybe this model ? :
http://zedboard.org/product/zynq-mmp

See this piece of code: https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/cgminer-openwrt-packages/blob/master/cgminer/data/config.avalon7.zedboard

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https://canaan.io/en/2016/06/08/hello-world-we-are-canaan/

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Hello World! We are Canaan. Yes, it is true. Canaan is being acquired by LYT, an electronics company. This deal is a vote of confidence in the three years of products and services we invented and released. This acquisition and investment provides us the necessary resources and autonomy to make even better products and innovations that our customers expect. Canaan’s expertise as an integrated circuit (IC) design company is strengthened.

These are big times for the blockchain, technology and innovation in the world. Amazingly, Canaan is based in Beijing, not Silicon Valley. We are a growing team of 100 working hard to bring great products and services to support people. We, like many of you, believe strongly in Open Source, the Decentralized Web, trying new things, building our families, eating good food, being healthy and making the world a better place.

I am N.G. Zhang, pronounced EN-GEE-JON-G, the founder and CEO of Canaan Creative. I am known for my fun technology projects which eventually led to making the repetition ASIC chips, blockchain hardware computers all the way up to our successful Avalon6 product. And, we are not finished! We have new products and innovations coming, deeper than integrated circuits and beyond the blockchain.

Do you have any questions about Canaan? Are you interested in writing a story about the Avalon product line? This is an invitation to journalists, technologists and enthusiasts to please write to us at [email protected]. Also, keep reading here for the latest updates, and follow us on twitter. Let’s work together to Grow the Blockchain.

Sincerely,

@ngzhang

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Quote from: QuintLeo on June 10, 2016, 02:59:47 AM

Quote from: generalt on June 09, 2016, 07:23:02 AM

Quote from: generalt on June 09, 2016, 07:23:02 AM

Am I the only one worried that this Shandong Luyiton company now owns Canaan Creative and is also in bed with Bitmain?

How are they in bed with Bitmain?

I'm also wondering if the Caanan purchace was 466 million DOLLARS equivilent, 466 million YUAN (which is a lot less, though still seems a little high unless Caanan was a LOT further along on their 14/16nm chip than I thought they could be), or 466 million what - I can't find out which of those is the actual amount anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure. It's just from what I read in this article http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-asic-acquired-avalon/

In a separate Twitter post, Jihan Wu, CEO of China-based bitcoin mining firm Bitmain, reported that the firm was to be publicly listed through its relationship with Shandong Luyitong, and that it is seeking to raise ¥0.67bn at a valuation of ¥3.1bn.

The author of that article appears to have MISread or MISunderstood that twitter post - the Twitter post is about AVALON/Caanan Creative seeking to raise that 0.67billion Yuan, NOT Bitmain.

Isn't it fun to deal with very sloppy standards of journalism that fail to check facts before they report them IN ERROR?

I read it that way at first aswell but I think it was just not typed clearly on "In a separate Twitter post, Jihan Wu, CEO of China-based bitcoin mining firm Bitmain, reported that the firm was to be publicly listed through its relationship with Shandong Luyitong, and that it is seeking to raise ¥0.67bn at a valuation of ¥3.1bn."

I think that part where the firm is referring to Avalon especially if you read tweet. So I think it is possibly not best word selection but not an error.

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Quote from: generalt on June 09, 2016, 07:23:02 AM

Am I the only one worried that this Shandong Luyiton company now owns Canaan Creative and is also in bed with Bitmain?

How are they in bed with Bitmain?

I'm also wondering if the Caanan purchace was 466 million DOLLARS equivilent, 466 million YUAN (which is a lot less, though still seems a little high unless Caanan was a LOT further along on their 14/16nm chip than I thought they could be), or 466 million what - I can't find out which of those is the actual amount anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure. It's just from what I read in this article http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-asic-acquired-avalon/

In a separate Twitter post, Jihan Wu, CEO of China-based bitcoin mining firm Bitmain, reported that the firm was to be publicly listed through its relationship with Shandong Luyitong, and that it is seeking to raise ¥0.67bn at a valuation of ¥3.1bn.

The author of that article appears to have MISread or MISunderstood that twitter post - the Twitter post is about AVALON/Caanan Creative seeking to raise that 0.67billion Yuan, NOT Bitmain.

Isn't it fun to deal with very sloppy standards of journalism that fail to check facts before they report them IN ERROR?

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Am I the only one worried that this Shandong Luyiton company now owns Canaan Creative and is also in bed with Bitmain?

How are they in bed with Bitmain?

I'm also wondering if the Caanan purchace was 466 million DOLLARS equivilent, 466 million YUAN (which is a lot less, though still seems a little high unless Caanan was a LOT further along on their 14/16nm chip than I thought they could be), or 466 million what - I can't find out which of those is the actual amount anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure. It's just from what I read in this article http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-asic-acquired-avalon/

In a separate Twitter post, Jihan Wu, CEO of China-based bitcoin mining firm Bitmain, reported that the firm was to be publicly listed through its relationship with Shandong Luyitong, and that it is seeking to raise ¥0.67bn at a valuation of ¥3.1bn.

This thread looks like it was moved to speculation. The tweet from Jihan was interesting and we can speculate all day on it. I'm personally not sure if he was not just congratulating a friend.

I could be wrong and you can read deep into it thinking he wan't investors... but I'm not sure I see enough to back it up. So guess that is why it's speculation.

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Am I the only one worried that this Shandong Luyiton company now owns Canaan Creative and is also in bed with Bitmain?

How are they in bed with Bitmain?

I'm also wondering if the Caanan purchace was 466 million DOLLARS equivilent, 466 million YUAN (which is a lot less, though still seems a little high unless Caanan was a LOT further along on their 14/16nm chip than I thought they could be), or 466 million what - I can't find out which of those is the actual amount anywhere I've looked.

I'm not sure. It's just from what I read in this article http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-mining-asic-acquired-avalon/

In a separate Twitter post, Jihan Wu, CEO of China-based bitcoin mining firm Bitmain, reported that the firm was to be publicly listed through its relationship with Shandong Luyitong, and that it is seeking to raise ¥0.67bn at a valuation of ¥3.1bn.

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