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legendary
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September 19, 2016, 10:08:59 PM
Wow! Nice sleuthing!

I would have thought that they wouldn't sync their sources with a public repository until they're ready to ship. Let's hope that they're on the verge of an announcement.
legendary
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Merit: 1706
Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
September 19, 2016, 08:17:10 PM
They are indeed doing some things right now and maybe trying to come up with the final product.
Their git was last updated 21hrs. ago with avalon7 updates.
https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/

First I compared this code: https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/cgminer/blob/master/driver-avalon7.h
with Avalon 4/Avalon 6 code: https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/cgminer/blob/master/driver-avalon4.h

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#define AVA7_MM711_ASIC_CNT      18
Based on this piece of code, Avalon 7 will most likely use 18x A3212 chips per unit.

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#define AVA7_DEFAULT_MINER_CNT   4
And based on this there are 4x units per miner, so a total of 72x A3212 chips.
So 70Gh/s /chip would make it a 5.04Th/s miner
80Gh/s /chip would make it a 5.76Th/s miner
90Gh/s /chip would make it a 6.48Th/s miner
100Gh/s /chip would make it a 7.2Th/s miner.

I'm guessing it's a 6-7 Th/s miner.
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#define AVA7_DEFAULT_MODULARS   7   /* Only support 6 modules maximum with one AUC */
Most likely up to 6x Avalon 7's can be chained together.
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After that I looked at this: https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/cgminer-openwrt-packages/blob/master/cgminer/files/cgminer.avalon7.config
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option chip_frequency   '756'
The default max. chip frequency is 756Mhz.

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option chip_voltage   '4435'
There is voltage control like there was with the Avalon4.

There could be more interesting information hidden in these pieces of the code but I'm getting sleepy now  Cheesy
It's damn late here in Finland atm.
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 253
September 10, 2016, 01:56:27 PM
Any updates ?

Hope they do it soon. I need more miners as soon as possible. It would be great to compare the two before I purchase.
legendary
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September 10, 2016, 01:42:52 PM
#99
Any updates ?
legendary
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September 08, 2016, 09:15:54 PM
#98
Any news anybody? It's sept 9 already and no a7 so far... Not even a single word on their website. It makes me doubt the a7 rumor in general and the September release in particular  Undecided

 "September release" in THIS industry, even from reputable makers, usually means "we're AIMING for end of September, but might slip into October or even November".

full member
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reality is what you think it is
September 08, 2016, 07:19:21 PM
#97
Any news anybody? It's sept 9 already and no a7 so far... Not even a single word on their website. It makes me doubt the a7 rumor in general and the September release in particular  Undecided
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 253
September 08, 2016, 02:28:46 PM
#96
They have a dilemma: going for a maximum return/miner or try to get more market share.
Obviously, in the latter case they would have to undercut Bitmain on pricing, NOT price it at a premium.
They were bought by a bigger player, so it is possible.
Plus, 6 mo or even 1 year warranty could be an additional bonus.

If they put out a better quality machine for the same price, Avalon wins. But if they put out a lower TH machine with similar power consumption at a higher price, I won't be a buyer.
legendary
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Merit: 3848
September 08, 2016, 12:05:57 PM
#95
They have a dilemma: going for a maximum return/miner or try to get more market share.
Obviously, in the latter case they would have to undercut Bitmain on pricing, NOT price it at a premium.
They were bought by a bigger player, so it is possible.
Plus, 6 mo or even 1 year warranty could be an additional bonus.
legendary
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Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
September 07, 2016, 10:50:41 AM
#94
If they want people to buy it they need to at least match or come close to ETH probability with respect to electricity for those with 7970/280x technology GPUs.

Needs to be 1000Watts->100MH/s ETH->$7/day and needs 4-6 months ROI period like GPUs.

However this will probably cost 50% more than an S9.




Well looks like the 7th was a false source.

here is the deal  it needs to be quiet gear . 

it needs to have lower watts per gh  0.08 would be good  a clear improvement over any other gear.

it needs to be 600 to 800 watt max 

a 640 watt  8th miner  would be really good.  they could charge 1500 and it would sell---- but  at 1500 I need a better warranty then bitmaintech  say six months.

I will say this the avalon 6 had good support for dead gear issues if you were in the USA Yang from blockC was very good on dead gear issues.

I hope to work with him again if the avalon 7 lists soon. for sales.
legendary
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September 07, 2016, 09:50:31 AM
#93
If they want people to buy it they need to at least match or come close to ETH probability with respect to electricity for those with 7970/280x technology GPUs.

Needs to be 1000Watts->100MH/s ETH->$7/day and needs 4-6 months ROI period like GPUs.

However this will probably cost 50% more than an S9.


legendary
Activity: 2436
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
September 07, 2016, 05:32:05 AM
#92
when will A7 be on sale ??

I heard a whisper on or about Sept 7th.
Damn, no news yet though it is Sept. 7th 5:32pm at Beijing.
I'm impatient..!!  Cheesy
sr. member
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liife threw a tempest at you? be a coconut !
September 04, 2016, 03:39:14 PM
#91
Cant wait to see the A7. Hope the price will be in a good range.

Me too! Do you know when the release is expected? Will the voltage of the chips be modifiable? I hope so it would make the miner way more useful in the long term I think. In all aspects it will be a good thing to bring some competitions back to bitmain Wink.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
September 04, 2016, 01:26:38 PM
#90
Cant wait to see the A7. Hope the price will be in a good range.
sr. member
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Merit: 253
September 03, 2016, 08:40:44 PM
#89
Who knows, the new owners may take a more competitive approach.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
September 01, 2016, 07:44:39 PM
#88
The issues with the S9 are more the "glue on heatsink" + much higher thermal density than any previous miner Bitmain ever came up with - except the S7 which had similar issues.

 The S5 was "small chips" and proved to be quite reliable as a general rule, while the KnC Titan was "large chips" that had a major issue with parts of the chip dying A LOT.

legendary
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
August 31, 2016, 10:39:54 PM
#87
Avalon actually beat Bitmain on price/hash?

 That WOULD be a shock.

 Close, though, might happen - and given Avalon's track record on reliability, close might just be good enough...





If Yang runs this with blockC from San Francisco  at least parts and warranty will work better then bitmaintech.


My take is the smaller chip size makes for a more delicate miner.

My one and only burnt  dead cpu was a i5 6600k from intel and they have had issues with the 14-16 nm chip size.

So the idea that 14-16 asic mining chips are less robust  seems plausible.

So maybe the avalon 7 will service dead gear better then bitmaintech does.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
August 30, 2016, 11:37:04 PM
#86
Avalon actually beat Bitmain on price/hash?

 That WOULD be a shock.

 Close, though, might happen - and given Avalon's track record on reliability, close might just be good enough...



legendary
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Merit: 1002
Mine Mine Mine
August 30, 2016, 01:34:20 PM
#85
when will A7 be on sale ??

I heard a whisper on or about Sept 7th.

not to spoil anyone's mood but the pricing ain't gonna be favorable & i hope that i'm wrong. but let's see.
legendary
Activity: 4116
Merit: 7849
'The right to privacy matters'
August 30, 2016, 09:38:21 AM
#84
when will A7 be on sale ??

I heard a whisper on or about Sept 7th.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
August 30, 2016, 03:07:58 AM
#83
when will A7 be on sale ??
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