If they daisychain like the Avalon4/6 you could buy one controller for like 50 units if you had USB hubs and such.
And they have really, really good mine-level software to go along with it.
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And they have really, really good mine-level software to go along with it.
Is that you in the video?
nope found it on youtube ill never make videos of what i have, will screen shot from time to time .
i don't mean that to offended. I don't do you tube videos myself so I am fine with that.
VIP buyer. I though the miner was available on nov 14
Is that you in the video?
nope found it on youtube ill never make videos of what i have, will screen shot from time to time .
i don't mean that to offended. I don't do you tube videos myself so I am fine with that.
If they daisychain like the Avalon4/6 you could buy one controller for like 50 units if you had USB hubs and such.
but with that you have the one single point of failure,
I will probably do 3-6 Avalon's per controller, although its going to be a learning curve for me as I have only set up Spondoolies and Bitmain kit.
Either way I feel this is a more reliable way to go with my mining enterprise rather than attempting to keep Bitmain S9's propped up ahah
If they daisychain like the Avalon4/6 you could buy one controller for like 50 units if you had USB hubs and such.
Looks like they'll be run like Avalon4 and Avalon6 were, where multiple modules are chained together to a single RPi controller. The single-point failure part isn't so great, but since it's an off-the-shelf part replacement is super easy. Setup and configuration are also super easy because you don't have to track down IPs for every individual machine. Overall a pretty good setup.
Just like we saw with the ASICMiner Prismas, we're going to end up with a stable configuration and RPis are fairly cheap and easily re-sellable if needed. So buying 1 controller per 1-2 units is pretty reasonable to me.
It's also in less than half the time, and during a lot cooler period overall so it should have been easier on the works.
Bathtub failure curve so as long as you're say a month in, you've likely covered most of the initial failures.
You'd like to think that, but I just had a board go down last week on a B1 machine and another two weeks before on a machine from August. The other two dead boards were within the first month.
How many of Phil's miners waited a while before kicking it?
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the august one was under a week 1 board then the controller. and the repaired controller came back with new firmware which is next to worthless.
all other machines ran from june until august before issues arose.
I have to say all my gear ran in a hot room underclocked and under volted. fans at 85% boards at 65c --- 95c
ambient room was 65f to 105f.
my gear was low dust and low to medium moisture.
Some how I feel If I never purchased the sixth machine in august my other five would have fared better.
It's also in less than half the time, and during a lot cooler period overall so it should have been easier on the works.
Bathtub failure curve so as long as you're say a month in, you've likely covered most of the initial failures.
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You'd like to think that, but I just had a board go down last week on a B1 machine and another two weeks before on a machine from August. The other two dead boards were within the first month.
How many of Phil's miners waited a while before kicking it?
Is that you in the video?
nope, pretty much the same as the A6
I'd love a sound test once people start recieving it, hoping it's more like the Avaon 4 than the Avalon 6...
So why do people still buy Bitcoin ASICs when GPUs can reach ROI in 4 months. If the current ZEC profitability stays constant then its more like 2 months.
Are GPUs harder to manage for most people and too much of a headache so they buy ASICs?
Nowdays it seems that ASIC miners don't worth to buy even if you have free electricity. Difficuly is increasing, increasing and price is more stable, it's not increasing. I don't know how miners are now making money with ASICs miners but it seems they have more special hardware (I mean bitfury and other serious companies). If bitmain won't release some great hardware, than it seems that bitcoin mining for simply humans will be dead. Nowdays GPU mining is much better because you aren't count on one coin and you can mine many altcoins.Are GPUs harder to manage for most people and too much of a headache so they buy ASICs?
Bitcoin=corp mining
Altcoins=home miners
.!.. Bitcoin mining
There are much more complaints about the S9 than previous devices, although they were sold significantly more often. S9 quality seems not very good. But that is OT here
I've had at least 20 Avalon6 come through hosting (most are still here), with two bad boards total. In about half as much time I've had around 25 S9 come through hosting with 4 bad boards total. I'm honestly surprised it's not higher than that. They do cost more, but there's something to be said about reliability (and, you know, customer service when something does go wrong).
Not sure you can directly compare those 2.
20 Avalon6= 40 boards
25 S9s = 75 boards
Avalon6 board failure rate: 5%
S9 board failure rate: 5.3%
Failure rate per miner is higher on S9 though.
It's also in less than half the time, and during a lot cooler period overall so it should have been easier on the works.
Bathtub failure curve so as long as you're say a month in, you've likely covered most of the initial failures.
So why do people still buy Bitcoin ASICs when GPUs can reach ROI in 4 months. If the current ZEC profitability stays constant then its more like 2 months.
Are GPUs harder to manage for most people and too much of a headache so they buy ASICs?
Nowdays it seems that ASIC miners don't worth to buy even if you have free electricity. Difficuly is increasing, increasing and price is more stable, it's not increasing. I don't know how miners are now making money with ASICs miners but it seems they have more special hardware (I mean bitfury and other serious companies). If bitmain won't release some great hardware, than it seems that bitcoin mining for simply humans will be dead. Nowdays GPU mining is much better because you aren't count on one coin and you can mine many altcoins. Are GPUs harder to manage for most people and too much of a headache so they buy ASICs?
https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/cgminer/blob/master/driver-avalon7.h
There is also a 88x A3212 chip version of the Avalon7.
Canaan Creative AvalonMiner 741.
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#define AVA7_MM741_ASIC_CNT 22
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#define AVA7_DEFAULT_MINER_CNT 4
See this code....
#define AVA7_DEFAULT_MINER_CNT 4
There is also a 88x A3212 chip version of the Avalon7.
Canaan Creative AvalonMiner 741.
Doesn't it make more sense to buy an RX 470, mine 0.003 BTC per day with it. Pretty much equavalient to a 3TH/s miner but its efficency is 0.05W/GHS.
Keep that BTC like you normally would for "long term" while getting ROI in 3x as fast and having something that in 1 year will be resellable.
Keep that BTC like you normally would for "long term" while getting ROI in 3x as fast and having something that in 1 year will be resellable.
I agree
How do you put it with out others getting mad at you or taking offense. other then say it's like the GOV it's a bunch of old guys setting around making rules about the new world that no long work and they hate to admit it because there set there ways. or a game comes to mine wow refused to put some thing in there game because they believed it would make running bot software easier or hurt the game but after a year, after all the other games had done they put that feature in and saw how it improved the game. it'd called progress and some times it is confused with hurt and what hurt it can do.
I Don't mean that to offend any one.
The real problem is when someone think everything is black or white.
From that point, there is no need to argue. It's pointless.
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Altcoin / GPU mining has been doing great that's a fact. Do I believe they will ever overpass Bitcoin in the future ? There is no way it'll happen. Bitcoin is starting to have an influence, to be know by everyone around the world. If I talk about Bitcoin to someone, a light might open but if I talk about altcoin, yeah they just don't understand it, do not want to know about it, they get confuse, etc.
So the reality is Bitcoin has a solid foundation, way more then any other altcoin.
So I agree GPU mining mining has been great by I also agree about sidehack argument. Altcoin is pretty much gamble. Bitcoin, is pretty much the gold of any currency around the world.
i wasn't disagreeing with anyone just a statement of how it is and your right bitcoins are getting around and it would confuse others at first till they get involved there is so much more to this kind of currency yet to happen that will make bitcoins stronger and won't replace it any time soon . don't forget bitcoins started with CPU and GPU's.
Yeah, I wasn't talking about you but just in general.
Altcoins are pretty much for geek or traders
It's still the same for Bitcoin but with more overture.
How are these miners controlled?
Looks like they'll be run like Avalon4 and Avalon6 were, where multiple modules are chained together to a single RPi controller. The single-point failure part isn't so great, but since it's an off-the-shelf part replacement is super easy. Setup and configuration are also super easy because you don't have to track down IPs for every individual machine. Overall a pretty good setup.
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Thanks Sidehack,
These look like they would sit nicely mounted to a rack shelf with a IBM 2880w PSU on top powering the three. really excited about these
Regards Alex
Does anyone have a sense as to how much CPU the mining software and web interface takes on an RPi? I already have an RPi that's running the Stratehm proxy.
Just trying to explore whether I could run both the proxy and mining software on the same RPi performance wise.
Additionally, I guess I'd need to manually install their cgminer and web interface rather than just slap in an image. Hopefully the Stratehm proxy and Avalon web admin apps can coexist. I know that the proxy allows the port to be changed, so there's probably no issue there.
Yes, I know that I said the 721 is too expensive. But I'm weak and tempted, so I'm exploring the technical options
Just trying to explore whether I could run both the proxy and mining software on the same RPi performance wise.
Additionally, I guess I'd need to manually install their cgminer and web interface rather than just slap in an image. Hopefully the Stratehm proxy and Avalon web admin apps can coexist. I know that the proxy allows the port to be changed, so there's probably no issue there.
Yes, I know that I said the 721 is too expensive. But I'm weak and tempted, so I'm exploring the technical options
Is this a stand-alone miner, or does it need a Pi / PC with BFGMiner?
How are these miners controlled?
Even with Bitmain's release of the latest S9 batches, I am severely thinking of buying some Avalons,
Even with Bitmain's release of the latest S9 batches, I am severely thinking of buying some Avalons,
if it follows how all the other Avalon's work , one PI can control 6 or more, from what they are saying you may be able to chain a lot more to gather. tip there is a internal controller so be very care full with updates you can brick one .
and it works on orange PI's now unless they dropped that , me and Avalon had a little falling out over gear i didn't buy direct they pretty much told go me f off unless i had bought it direct or pay very high price to replace some thing that should only cost 30 bucks and they give no support to non direct buys . so i stop keeping up on the Avalon 7 . and CGMMINER only works unless you are willing to send a miner to Luke the DEV of BFG hell make it work or convince Avalon to do it . Avalon did support BFG at one point not sure what happen .
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