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full member
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November 26, 2016, 11:59:14 AM

 My credit union doesn't know what a "wire transfer" is


Dude seriously, switch to a real bank where you can do what you want with your money...

Don't you guys have online banking in your countries ? Or a big bank that sends wires, sepa, doesn't have exorbitant fees etc??

I don't know how a credit union couldn't know what wire transfer is.  Its a fundamental way for banks to transfer money both domestically and internationally.  ACH generally has limits in place.  If you have a routing number for your checking account, you should be able to wires funds to and from it.
hero member
Activity: 628
Merit: 504
November 26, 2016, 11:03:25 AM

 My credit union doesn't know what a "wire transfer" is


Dude seriously, switch to a real bank where you can do what you want with your money...

Don't you guys have online banking in your countries ? Or a big bank that sends wires, sepa, doesn't have exorbitant fees etc??
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1030
November 26, 2016, 02:39:37 AM
I've sent a wire transfer from my bank before and it was no big deal. Paid for some stuff from bitmain and spondoolies a few years ago. While I don't see why Avalon won't accept bitcoin for payment I also don't see why people have a hard time sending wire transfers. Avalon probably have a limit to what they can convert per month and they probably are going over that limit already. Im sure they have to pay most of their expenses in fiat.

 My credit union doesn't know what a "wire transfer" is (and the last one from before my move knew what they were but didn't have the capability to do one).
 Many banks don't do them either, even when they know what they are - they want to do ACH transfers any more instead, which is basically just a newer technology to do the same thing.

 THAT is why some of us have "a hard time sending wire tranfers" - we CAN'T.

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legendary
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Ruu \o/
November 26, 2016, 12:15:47 AM
Avalon added intelligent auto overclocking/undervolting in the Avalon4 so you might be seeing the initial settings vs what the miner may have headed towards on its own. I have no idea on the time periods of adjustments but I'd assume they're measured in hours rather than minutes.
Yes I've experimented with the code that speeds it up over time. The device needs to have heat soaked and be relatively thermostable otherwise they have to be ramped up very slowly. Dealing with 16nm is much tricker in this regard. The original code took 2 hours to stabilise. I've experimented with changes that reach stable levels in 2 mins.
legendary
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Merit: 1185
dogiecoin.com
November 25, 2016, 11:43:54 PM
The more interesting thing is when I undervolted it to 4700mV, it seemed quite stable at 770W for about 10% less hashrate. Lower levels of voltage seemed to kill the hashrate or were unstable. I'll conduct more experiments in a couple of days when I'm not in offpeak electricity to see exactly what that undervolted hashrate is.

Avalon added intelligent auto overclocking/undervolting in the Avalon4 so you might be seeing the initial settings vs what the miner may have headed towards on its own. I have no idea on the time periods of adjustments but I'd assume they're measured in hours rather than minutes.
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
November 25, 2016, 10:59:15 PM
After running mine for a day, it stabilised at 6.3Th for 1040W at the wall, though I'm using gold PSUs so expect a bit less power usage with platinum.

The more interesting thing is when I undervolted it to 4700mV, it seemed quite stable at 770W for about 10% less hashrate. Lower levels of voltage seemed to kill the hashrate or were unstable. I'll conduct more experiments in a couple of days when I'm not in offpeak electricity to see exactly what that undervolted hashrate is.
legendary
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Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
November 25, 2016, 12:51:54 AM
I should be getting 2 miners from them sometime next week.

Since they price to just over 2 k  I expect a biil from fedex for customs.


I will run a nice long thread with db meter 4k dps 2500 psu's  which are more efficient then the dps 2000 psu's.

These may be bearable sound wise
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1004
November 24, 2016, 10:10:22 PM
I'm pleased to say that both Kano and I have received an A7 each from Canaan for continued support of these devices in the official cgminer, and the code has already been merged into the master cgminer.

Really happy to see that! You totally deserve it!  Grin
newbie
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November 24, 2016, 09:29:44 PM
I've sent a wire transfer from my bank before and it was no big deal. Paid for some stuff from bitmain and spondoolies a few years ago. While I don't see why Avalon won't accept bitcoin for payment I also don't see why people have a hard time sending wire transfers. Avalon probably have a limit to what they can convert per month and they probably are going over that limit already. Im sure they have to pay most of their expenses in fiat.

Agreed, previously, until my bank refused to send a wire to Hong Kong, looked at other options and they all involved a 3-5 day delay
so I can understand why folk on this forum not only think that that is asinine but also wish to exploit the ease of using crypto currency
and NOT dealing with freaky bank policies and procedures!

"The last posting from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago. Please try again later. The thing you were trying to post was saved as a draft. This limit decreases substantially as your account becomes more established. "

Tried to send this to an admin:

"I am trying to contribute to this forum. This message is starting
to get real old, just following up on a few threads requires me to
post 2-3 in succession:

"The last posting from your IP was less than 360 seconds ago. Please try again later. The thing you were trying to post was saved as a draft. This limit decreases substantially as your account becomes more established. "

..."

Tried to reply to another poster in this thread:

They charge $25 to use BTC as a payment method.


This is strange. Shouldn't they just say pay this amount of bitcoin?! I mean does every USD transaction say please add 0 BTC?!
I mean come on! So many companies have a built in fee or use a slightly different BTC value to account for fluctuations that
that should be more the common practice. I am wondering if there isn't ANOTHER reason they are being so sketchy??? Does
anyone know? I am about to spend my money there and would like those that have had experiences PAYING this company to
post a bit more, thanks!

legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1000
November 24, 2016, 09:10:59 PM
I'm pleased to say that both Kano and I have received an A7 each from Canaan for continued support of these devices in the official cgminer, and the code has already been merged into the master cgminer.

Great news. Glad to see they didn't follow shitmain's lead.
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legendary
Activity: 4088
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Ruu \o/
November 24, 2016, 03:38:00 PM
I'm pleased to say that both Kano and I have received an A7 each from Canaan for continued support of these devices in the official cgminer, and the code has already been merged into the master cgminer.
sr. member
Activity: 358
Merit: 255
November 24, 2016, 10:03:37 AM
They charge $25 to use BTC as a payment method.
sr. member
Activity: 338
Merit: 251
November 24, 2016, 10:01:56 AM
I've sent a wire transfer from my bank before and it was no big deal. Paid for some stuff from bitmain and spondoolies a few years ago. While I don't see why Avalon won't accept bitcoin for payment I also don't see why people have a hard time sending wire transfers. Avalon probably have a limit to what they can convert per month and they probably are going over that limit already. Im sure they have to pay most of their expenses in fiat.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
November 24, 2016, 08:56:00 AM

Can't make this shit up  Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

And you guys eat this crap up like a fat kid on Thanksgiving!!!!!!  Shocked Cheesy Shocked Cheesy



I'll bite! Happy Thanksgiving!
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
November 24, 2016, 03:47:08 AM
So my bank calls my after I initiated the wire! And they are saying they don't send ANY international wires!
Are banks weird or what? I used to think they were, now I KNOW they are! Funny thing, Canaan's bank is
Citibank, a much larger USA bank than my puny bank!
So now I am talking to Canaan about supporting the blockchain and trying to get to the bottom of why they
don't accept it in the first place. Sorry if I misjudged any of you based on your reluctance to send a wire!!!

I apologize and I eat crow!

 Undecided Undecided Undecided


Yeah Bitcoin is gonna change the world!!!!! Everyone will be using it & all others will be jelly for it!!!

Too fuckin funny,a Bitcoin mining machine can't be bought with Bitcoin  Cheesy Grin Cheesy Grin

But...I CAN buy a video card & PC parts with Bitcoin  Cool Cheesy Cool Cheesy

Can't make this shit up  Grin Cheesy Grin Cheesy

And you guys eat this crap up like a fat kid on Thanksgiving!!!!!!  Shocked Cheesy Shocked Cheesy


newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
November 24, 2016, 01:49:25 AM
So my bank calls my after I initiated the wire! And they are saying they don't send ANY international wires!
Are banks weird or what? I used to think they were, now I KNOW they are! Funny thing, Canaan's bank is
Citibank, a much larger USA bank than my puny bank!
So now I am talking to Canaan about supporting the blockchain and trying to get to the bottom of why they
don't accept it in the first place. Sorry if I misjudged any of you based on your reluctance to send a wire!!!

I apologize and I eat crow!

 Undecided Undecided Undecided
legendary
Activity: 3752
Merit: 2667
Evil beware: We have waffles!
November 23, 2016, 11:30:49 PM
I have never and will never use wire transfer to purchase product from anyone without a 3rd party escrow agreement (licensed legal counsel).

If you do not accept BTC then paypal or CC is the only alternatives.
For your information, if you get an invoice and you pay for it, you have entered in a binding contract.
All the businesses, even our purchases as consumers are dependant on mutual trust. Bitcoin is dependant on trust.
I think achtung's point not specific to Bitcoin as much as it is about both buyer and seller having no advantage over the other in paid for/received goods.

Wire or BTC xfr without 3rd party escrow = you send the money and trust you get what was promised, when it was promised. If ya don't get it - good luck resolving the issues... The seller has your money and is gonna wanna keep it.

PayPal, credit card, and escrow even the playing field. Seller knows the money is there and they want to get it/keep it meaning they are under much more obligation to fulfill the order as promised. If they don't the buyer can often/does get their money back.

That said, when it comes to miners so far the ONLY companies I will/would do non-escrow BTC buys with are in same order Bitmain and Avalon. Why? Proven track record with real products delivered when stated they would be when sold. Wire xfr is just out period because it is a pain in the ass to deal with vs BTC, PayPal, or CC.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
November 23, 2016, 06:25:24 PM
I have never and will never use wire transfer to purchase product from anyone without a 3rd party escrow agreement (licensed legal counsel).

If you do not accept BTC then paypal or CC is the only alternatives.


For your information, if you get an invoice and you pay for it, you have entered in a binding contract.

All the businesses, even our purchases as consumers are dependant on mutual trust. Bitcoin is dependant on trust.




Sooooo,Avalon doesn't trust Bitcoin?? Hmmmmmmmmmmm  Roll Eyes
full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 100
November 23, 2016, 09:46:59 AM
I have never and will never use wire transfer to purchase product from anyone without a 3rd party escrow agreement (licensed legal counsel).

If you do not accept BTC then paypal or CC is the only alternatives.


For your information, if you get an invoice and you pay for it, you have entered in a binding contract.

All the businesses, even our purchases as consumers are dependant on mutual trust. Bitcoin is dependant on trust.


full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 100
November 23, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
Guys.

Place an order and open a support ticket.

Mention that you want to pay in BTC or other payment methods and see.

You lose nothing and you never know.

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