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sr. member
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No zuo no die why you try, u zuo u die dont be shy
August 03, 2017, 12:07:36 AM
My four A741 arrived yesterday but I am only running two in a daisy chain due to lack of PSU's.

I have noticed the first A741 (immediate to AUC) consistently rebooting itself every once a while (10 ~ 60 minutes) for unknown reasons. I have swapped module and this issue persists so I started to think if the controller has some issues.

Does anyone share my experience here?

What volt setting are you on +1 and 0 May stress the psu.

Try -1 or -2

Thanks, Phil. I think you nailed it. It did seem to relate to the power.

I had a pair of HP PSU that i used to power S9. Their spec is 800w @ 110V and 1200w @ 220V. On my newly installed 240V circuit, it may be getting marginal when using one to power A741 @ Voff = -1.
I have thrown both PSU's on that A741 and now it can run stably @ Voff=0.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 02, 2017, 11:03:39 PM
My four A741 arrived yesterday but I am only running two in a daisy chain due to lack of PSU's.

I have noticed the first A741 (immediate to AUC) consistently rebooting itself every once a while (10 ~ 60 minutes) for unknown reasons. I have swapped module and this issue persists so I started to think if the controller has some issues.

Does anyone share my experience here?

What volt setting are you on +1 and 0 May stress the psu.

Try -1 or -2
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 250
No zuo no die why you try, u zuo u die dont be shy
August 02, 2017, 04:32:26 PM
My four A741 arrived yesterday but I am only running two in a daisy chain due to lack of PSU's.

I have noticed the first A741 (immediate to AUC) consistently rebooting itself every once a while (10 ~ 60 minutes) for unknown reasons. I have swapped module and this issue persists so I started to think if the controller has some issues.

Does anyone share my experience here?
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 02, 2017, 04:11:25 PM

Only 3 cons:
1.All miners on 1 controller show up in the pools and monitor sw like Awesome Miner as 1 big device
2.Single point of failure if RasPi dies
3.When updating the MM firmware it is applied to ALL miners on the controller. NP if they all are the same model, not good if you mix say 721 and 741 miners on the 1 controller. Been there - done that and 721's don't like thinking they became 741's....

1. So, I guess from a management perspective if one miner in the chain goes down you've gotta dig into figuring out which miner is having the issue. Is that the main con?
2. Valid point, I don't really have any experience with raspi, are they generally reliable or are they more prone to failure?
3. I will have 741's only, so not an immediate issue, but good to know.
Ya. The only way to easily see the status of each miner is to use the Avalon GUI. It will ID the AUC adapters and the miners attached to them, tell you how fast each is running, etc. There you can make a miner's LED blink so you can pinpoint which is which.

Can't say I've ever had a RasPi fail but is still the Achilles heal to what can be a very large amount of hash power. Then again, easy enough to have a spare Pi already configured as you want to just plug in.

My biggest issue would be that because all the miners are reported to pools as 1 worker if there are say 10 miners on the 1 controller and 1 miner drops out or loses speed it will not be apparent for a while if you only look at the pool stats for that (huge) worker.


Thats a good point. I am also trying to think ahead about scalability issues. If i theoretically were to buy 20 of the miners and send them off to hosting, or build out my own version of a gigapod i am not sure the best way to set that up. Buy a controller for each unit? I think while i have the equipment here, locally, 4 per controller would be pretty simple.

if buy solar and I end up with say 18   741's  we would use  6 rasp pi's   3x   741's per rasp pi  .

this gives you spare usb to 4 pin translation dongles  

along with finksy 4 k psu's 3  pieces per rasp pi is a working plan for our future build out ( if we do it)

Set 1 of 3 741's
power brick
usb cable
rasp pi
usb cable
dongle for translating usb to 4 pin signal.
four pin
avalon --1
four pin
avalon --2
four pin
avalon --3
a finksy 4k psu
------------------------------

Set 2 of 3 741's
power brick
usb cable
rasp pi
usb cable
dongle for translating usb to 4 pin signal.
four pin
avalon --1
four pin
avalon --2
four pin
avalon --3
a finksy 4k psu

------------------------------------




that dongle is hard to source.

when you buy an avalon

you get
1 dongle
1 usb
1 four pin wire
1 avalon


by using 3 to   a rasp pi    you conserve your translation dongles
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 03:56:44 PM

Only 3 cons:
1.All miners on 1 controller show up in the pools and monitor sw like Awesome Miner as 1 big device
2.Single point of failure if RasPi dies
3.When updating the MM firmware it is applied to ALL miners on the controller. NP if they all are the same model, not good if you mix say 721 and 741 miners on the 1 controller. Been there - done that and 721's don't like thinking they became 741's....

1. So, I guess from a management perspective if one miner in the chain goes down you've gotta dig into figuring out which miner is having the issue. Is that the main con?
2. Valid point, I don't really have any experience with raspi, are they generally reliable or are they more prone to failure?
3. I will have 741's only, so not an immediate issue, but good to know.
Ya. The only way to easily see the status of each miner is to use the Avalon GUI. It will ID the AUC adapters and the miners attached to them, tell you how fast each is running, etc. There you can make a miner's LED blink so you can pinpoint which is which.

Can't say I've ever had a RasPi fail but is still the Achilles heal to what can be a very large amount of hash power. Then again, easy enough to have a spare Pi already configured as you want to just plug in.

My biggest issue would be that because all the miners are reported to pools as 1 worker if there are say 10 miners on the 1 controller and 1 miner drops out or loses speed it will not be apparent for a while if you only look at the pool stats for that (huge) worker.


Thats a good point. I am also trying to think ahead about scalability issues. If i theoretically were to buy 20 of the miners and send them off to hosting, or build out my own version of a gigapod i am not sure the best way to set that up. Buy a controller for each unit? I think while i have the equipment here, locally, 4 per controller would be pretty simple.
legendary
Activity: 3752
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
August 02, 2017, 01:26:35 PM

Only 3 cons:
1.All miners on 1 controller show up in the pools and monitor sw like Awesome Miner as 1 big device
2.Single point of failure if RasPi dies
3.When updating the MM firmware it is applied to ALL miners on the controller. NP if they all are the same model, not good if you mix say 721 and 741 miners on the 1 controller. Been there - done that and 721's don't like thinking they became 741's....

1. So, I guess from a management perspective if one miner in the chain goes down you've gotta dig into figuring out which miner is having the issue. Is that the main con?
2. Valid point, I don't really have any experience with raspi, are they generally reliable or are they more prone to failure?
3. I will have 741's only, so not an immediate issue, but good to know.
Ya. The only way to easily see the status of each miner is to use the Avalon GUI. It will ID the AUC adapters and the miners attached to them, tell you how fast each is running, etc. There you can make a miner's LED blink so you can pinpoint which is which.

Can't say I've ever had a RasPi fail but is still the Achilles heel to what can be a very large amount of hash power. Then again, easy enough to have a spare Pi already configured as you want to just plug in.

My biggest issue would be that because all the miners are reported to pools as 1 worker if there are say 10 miners on the 1 controller and 1 miner drops out or loses speed it will not be apparent for a while if you only look at the pool stats for that (huge) worker.
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August 02, 2017, 01:01:49 PM
re: ^^
Maybe look back a page or 2 for the pretty pictures...  Roll Eyes

Doh! Thanks, I was sure I had a thorough look, but all the splitting must have had me in a swirl Smiley pretty neat!
sr. member
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August 02, 2017, 12:54:03 PM

Only 3 cons:
1.All miners on 1 controller show up in the pools and monitor sw like Awesome Miner as 1 big device
2.Single point of failure if RasPi dies
3.When updating the MM firmware it is applied to ALL miners on the controller. NP if they all are the same model, not good if you mix say 721 and 741 miners on the 1 controller. Been there - done that and 721's don't like thinking they became 741's....


1. So, I guess from a management perspective if one miner in the chain goes down you've gotta dig into figuring out which miner is having the issue. Is that the main con?
2. Valid point, I don't really have any experience with raspi, are they generally reliable or are they more prone to failure?
3. I will have 741's only, so not an immediate issue, but good to know.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
August 02, 2017, 10:35:25 AM
re: ^^
Maybe look back a page or 2 for the pretty pictures...  Roll Eyes
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August 02, 2017, 10:22:48 AM
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Did you receive your presents yet from Canaan? Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 3752
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
August 02, 2017, 09:31:53 AM
Sent off my BTC payment. Apparently Avalon sold out of their 741's however they will be receiving in another shipment "whatever that means" this weekend. My order is supposed to ship on monday :| wish it was going out this week but, whatever, still faster than BITMAIN.

On a side note, is there a pro\con to daisy chaining all of the miners off of one controller? I understand each one can handle up to 20 miners. Does this pose any problems?
Only 3 cons:
1.All miners on 1 controller show up in the pools and monitor sw like Awesome Miner as 1 big device
2.Single point of failure if RasPi dies
3.When updating the MM firmware it is applied to ALL miners on the controller. NP if they all are the same model, not good if you mix say 721 and 741 miners on the 1 controller. Been there - done that and 721's don't like thinking they became 741's....
sr. member
Activity: 324
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August 02, 2017, 08:30:58 AM
Sent off my BTC payment. Apparently Avalon sold out of their 741's however they will be receiving in another shipment "whatever that means" this weekend. My order is supposed to ship on monday :| wish it was going out this week but, whatever, still faster than BITMAIN.

On a side note, is there a pro\con to daisy chaining all of the miners off of one controller? I understand each one can handle up to 20 miners. Does this pose any problems?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 01, 2017, 10:50:45 PM
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Thanks Phil, I'll try that out. She's screaming right now, so I'll need to quiet it down or host it somewhere else.
Well as rule#5 in Bitcoin Mining 101 states: Bitcoin miners are LOUD.

Ya can be toned down a bit but no getting around it.

Yeah, I've had plenty of miners in the past (S1 - S5 & SP20) so I know the drill on noise. In my ideal world it'd sound like an S3, which I could keep next to me on the desk  Tongue.

If you do -2 try setting fan minimum at 35

It will prevent ramp up and down .

I get it to stay near 55 percent with those settings.

Loud but not unbearable.
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August 01, 2017, 09:12:30 PM
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Thanks Phil, I'll try that out. She's screaming right now, so I'll need to quiet it down or host it somewhere else.
Well as rule#5 in Bitcoin Mining 101 states: Bitcoin miners are LOUD.

Ya can be toned down a bit but no getting around it.

Yeah, I've had plenty of miners in the past (S1 - S5 & SP20) so I know the drill on noise. In my ideal world it'd sound like an S3, which I could keep next to me on the desk  Tongue.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
August 01, 2017, 09:03:02 PM
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Thanks Phil, I'll try that out. She's screaming right now, so I'll need to quiet it down or host it somewhere else.
Well as rule#5 in Bitcoin Mining 101 states: Bitcoin miners are LOUD.

Ya can be toned down a bit but no getting around it.
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Activity: 543
Merit: 500
August 01, 2017, 08:58:04 PM
My 741 showed up today a day early and it's happily hashing away. I'm very pleased with the turnaround from Canaan. What do you guys recommend setting the voltage and fans at to keep it quieter? I have it running in my home office and the ambient room temperature is about 78.

I tested

 0  higher speed of hash  fan and watts then -1                       1200 watts
-1  higher  speed of hash fan and watt then -2                       1100 watts
-2   lowest speed of hashlowest fan speed watts. are lowest.  1000  watts


if noise is key -2 is the way to go.

Thanks Phil, I'll try that out. She's screaming right now, so I'll need to quiet it down or host it somewhere else.
legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 01, 2017, 08:56:31 PM
Just looked at a HP DPS1200 PSU and the aux out is 12v @ 2.5A. Poop.

HOWEVER -- if you are using a breakout board with say an IBM PSU check to see if the breakout has 5vdc out!. Just looked an old one from Sidehack used with the 750w Dell PSU's and yep - has 2x 5vdc outputs. Raspi power issued solved methinks?

those anker work really good  the 2 port would do 2 rasp pi's zero issues

the 5 port would do 5 rasp pi's zero issues.

your idea should work. but if you overload the psu the rasp pi fails.

i consider the anker charger more reliable .

I have used them indoors  in good environments in the solar array which is a rugged  spot to mine  as it gets down to 30f in the winter and up to 95 f in the summer.

I have had
the psu's fail
the miners fail
the pcie cables fail 
circuit breakers trip

but so far the anker chargers just work.
legendary
Activity: 3752
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
August 01, 2017, 08:44:26 PM
Just looked at a HP DPS1200 PSU and the aux out is 12v @ 2.5A. Poop.

HOWEVER -- if you are using a breakout board with say an IBM PSU check to see if the breakout has 5vdc out!. Just looked an old one from Sidehack used with the 750w Dell PSU's and yep - has 2x 5vdc outputs. Raspi power issued solved methinks?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
August 01, 2017, 08:36:43 PM
I also received my miner today, what can I use to power the controller?
Looking for a recommended pool to join with my mine, what is everyone using?

Thanks  Smiley
For power, go to your favorite shopping site and search for 'RasPi PSU', you will find tons of them, most are 5V @ 2A or more out. The Pi only needs 2A.
As for the mining pool to use - only 1 choice in my book -- Kano.is

Thanks NotFuzzyWarm, I just ordered a https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-PowerIQ-Foldable/dp/B071YMZ4LD/ref=sr_1_3?
I have a ton of good micro usb cables.
Will be using Kano for sure, really need to find time to setup everything very busy currently at work and doesn't allow me some time for the miner.
I am hoping Thursday for sure  Grin

Thanks again to both of you NotFuzzyWarm and philipma1957, you guys are awesome!

I have that  charger in the loft of the solar array  and it has run non-stop since April it is doing 1 rasp pi  that is doing 3 avalon 721's

this is the gear on 0 volt setting which is second fastest setting.
legendary
Activity: 3752
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
August 01, 2017, 08:31:49 PM
Has anybody figured out how to power the controller off a PCIE connector?
You would need something like a pico psu and then a 5V USB output, doesn't pay the effort and the 5V USB wall wart is a lot cheaper solution.
Damnit ya got me wondering... Most server PSU's do have an always-on auxiliary output, even Bitmains... Typically 5vdc and good for 3A I think... need to look at a few that I have.
edit: looked and is 12vdc 2.5A on the HP DPS1200's.
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