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Topic: Avalon batch [2] countdown! - page 92. (Read 141540 times)

legendary
Activity: 1176
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April 07, 2013, 08:16:37 AM
#50
That would suck. Mining centralization is not a good thing at all.
I don't like it either, but it's the only possible future.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1080
April 07, 2013, 08:13:32 AM
#49
Avalon's only competition for next 6 moth it's Avalon itself, there is really not much else to know.
No, asicminer is serious. They will deploy on an industrial scale killing "retail" customers.
BFL *might* have a working heater-miner (i personally don't believe them yet).
Helveticminer might also be serious, maybe we will start to see them in a few months. Certainly less than 6.

Also, with the mining economy being now worth 200M$/year, we are gonna see some real competitors. Intel/AMD/ARM? Why not?

That would suck. Mining centralization is not a good thing at all.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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April 07, 2013, 04:51:53 AM
#48
Avalon's only competition for next 6 moth it's Avalon itself, there is really not much else to know.
No, asicminer is serious. They will deploy on an industrial scale killing "retail" customers.
BFL *might* have a working heater-miner (i personally don't believe them yet).
Helveticminer might also be serious, maybe we will start to see them in a few months. Certainly less than 6.

Also, with the mining economy being now worth 200M$/year, we are gonna see some real competitors. Intel/AMD/ARM? Why not?
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
April 07, 2013, 04:46:45 AM
#47
Avalon's only competition for next 6 moth it's Avalon itself, there is really not much else to know.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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April 07, 2013, 04:41:58 AM
#46
Sometimes, something will be out of someone's control.
You seem quite calm for someone that invested 4000BTC on batch 3.
Do you know something about ASICMINER, helveticminer and BFL that we don't? Smiley
donator
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1001
April 07, 2013, 04:37:05 AM
#45
prepare yourself for another delay, just a feeling.
I don't think so. If they delay it another time, that's another ~100btc lost for each avalon for each customer.
I'm quite sure that they are doing all what's possible not to delay it another time.

Sometimes, something will be out of someone's control.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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April 07, 2013, 04:34:45 AM
#44
I think that they already started producing batch 2, and that they will simply start to ship them on the 15th. Maybe i'm dreaming, but since that they initially announced to finish shipping by the 5th of april, what happened that stopped them in this hard way? They claimed that the problem was shipping, not producing. Their new fab will allow them to produce 2x the current avalon per week, not 10x. So not that big deal. Have they stopped producing the units in the last month? Because i remember that i gave them money before the CNY just to be in time so that they could have bought resistors & capacitors for batch 2.
My guess is that they are mining with a part of this batch 2, and i'm ok with that, as long as they ship on time to let us do a good profit. Good profit = 2x invested BTC. If they don't "start shipping the majority of batch 2 on the 15th", we will most probably have a loss BTC-side. God knows how hungry will the batch 3 customers be.
legendary
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April 06, 2013, 07:14:11 PM
#43
prepare yourself for another delay, just a feeling.
I don't think so. If they delay it another time, that's another ~100btc lost for each avalon for each customer.

So what you're gonna do about it?
Anyways I hope you're tight and I am wrong.

I think they outsourced batch 1 production and are going to do batch 2 themselves. Starting up a new production line takes time and there is simply no reason why they shouldn't take that time. It was said there will be a newsletter regarding trade-ins a week before batch 2 ships, I didn't get that yet.
Bitcoin ASIC business is pretty much a seller's market, so shut up and queue in line.

Still I think team Avalon is by far the most honest and trustworthy team selling ASIC's out there. If I can mine the BTC back I invested within a reasonable time I'm already happy.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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April 06, 2013, 12:28:47 PM
#42
prepare yourself for another delay, just a feeling.
I don't think so. If they delay it another time, that's another ~100btc lost for each avalon for each customer.
I'm quite sure that they are doing all what's possible not to delay it another time.
legendary
Activity: 1600
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April 06, 2013, 12:16:14 PM
#41
prepare yourself for another delay, just a feeling.
newbie
Activity: 33
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April 06, 2013, 09:30:26 AM
#40

That's actually the problem, no way to tell for certain. The walletbit receipts don't have shipping address confirmations only TXIDs, batch #s, payment amounts, and payment dates. I've entered personal information at walletbit and at Avalon store, but without anything coming back to confirm...well it's disconcerting. One single email confirming shipping address and I'd sleep better, but it's not going to happen at this point.

Yes, creativex!  Exactly same situation as me.  Equally disconcerting.  No receipt, no shipping address confirmation.  I suppose we just have faith.  And wait. 
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1080
April 06, 2013, 08:10:47 AM
#39
loool...

Well, I think you did all you could, and the ball is in the Avalon team's court.

I hope you do get your grubby paddy paws all over them.

NO!!. Avalon's are sacred artifacts. Human hands must not touch them! That's why they've included gloves for us mortals..

Really? I thought the gloves were some sort of sex toy.
full member
Activity: 145
Merit: 105
April 06, 2013, 03:49:12 AM
#38
I sure hope my avalon from batch 1 ships before batch 2 starts shipping!
exactly my point
newbie
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April 06, 2013, 03:20:28 AM
#37
I sure hope my avalon from batch 1 ships before batch 2 starts shipping!
full member
Activity: 145
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April 06, 2013, 02:42:21 AM
#36
hey, don't kill the messenger. They still shipping batch 1, as in they actively sending the packages. It wasn't like they sent them long time ago and they just got stuck at the customs. Why such delay? No idea, people believe they were mining with them. So based on that experience, I'm guessing that the batch 2 will be shipped very slowly as well. People will be grouchy, depressed but suddenly orgasmic when they finally get their avalon. So, majority may not even mean "most of it". I'm not bashing avalon, or not trying to spoil batch2 party, just thinking realistically.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
April 06, 2013, 02:34:50 AM
#35
I know what majority means. But what's the sense of starting to ship the majority on a given day? Does it mean that they will ship a minority after, such as in we have 500 units ready by the 15, we will ship them in 2 weeks, the others 100-200 will go out after our new farm comes online?
full member
Activity: 145
Merit: 105
April 06, 2013, 02:29:01 AM
#34
Majority means most of the batch, but not all.  They have very limited amount of people, so they can only send so much
legendary
Activity: 1176
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April 06, 2013, 12:57:21 AM
#33
I would like to understand what "start shipping the majority of the batch on the 15th" means. What does he wanted to say? What's the sense of starting to ship - the majority? I cannot understand it.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
April 05, 2013, 11:52:07 PM
#32
Till now still no information about FPGA trade in.
Normal batch #2 should be later than trade-in.
Therefore, we still have to wait.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
April 05, 2013, 09:03:07 PM
#31
loool...

Well, I think you did all you could, and the ball is in the Avalon team's court.

I hope you do get your grubby paddy paws all over them.

NO!!. Avalon's are sacred artifacts. Human hands must not touch them! That's why they've included gloves for us mortals..
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