Avoid auto-buy links, mainly locked or self moderated. Register before dealing - page 6.

gr8fuldea

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Another obvious scammer. Same "handwriting" as ZEWROX with identical posts.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/aws-credit-150-10-500-35-1500-55-instant-delivery-5060179

LOL just going to post it myself. Apparently he did not take kindly to be red repped. Poor baby. But he apparently has a hard-on for Harambe, poor ape.

sandy-is-fine

legendary

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AKA Ms-overzealous-condecsending-explitive-account

Quote from: arivbot on October 28, 2018, 09:02:16 PM

What if my service/ shop are legit, but other member didn't leave a feedback? Can I still use autobuy?

Thankyou

Autobuy eliminates the use of escrow so those who use it (especially newbies) are very often seen as scammers. While it may not ALWAYS be the case the few honest people suffer for the dishonesty of the majority.

sandy-is-fine

legendary

Activity: 1921

Merit: 1230

AKA Ms-overzealous-condecsending-explitive-account

Quote from: bolinao on October 28, 2018, 08:58:37 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Another moron: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chaturbatecom-tokens-best-offers-on-the-internet-5058010

Scammers are coming thick and fast, if there was only a way of slowing them down. Roll Eyes

There are lots of ways but the owners of this forum seem to condone and encourage them by doing nothing so it will never slow down. This forum is known on other sites as the "place to scam" and get away with it so they seem to gather here like a swarm of cockroaches.

arivbot

newbie

Activity: 35

Merit: 0

What if my service/ shop are legit, but other member didn't leave a feedback? Can I still use autobuy?

Thankyou

bolinao

hero member

Activity: 835

Merit: 502

Quote from: ?? on ??

Another moron: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/chaturbatecom-tokens-best-offers-on-the-internet-5058010

Scammers are coming thick and fast, if there was only a way of slowing them down. Roll Eyes

EcuaMobi

legendary

Activity: 1862

Merit: 1469

https://Ecua.Mobi

Quote from: niceboy999 on October 22, 2018, 03:54:21 PM

hi EcuaMobi its enough time please remove your negative remarks thanks

You keep asking for loans with invalid collateral (1, 2) and have posted absolutely nothing useful, so no, it won't be removed.

Quote from: ?? on ??

This one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/aws-credit-150-10-500-35-1500-55-instant-delivery-5056041
And this one with multiple scam alts (see trust): https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-windowsofficemsdn-adminantivirusgift-cards-bulk-seller-5040992

Done

niceboy999

copper member

Activity: 518

Merit: 11

Quote from: EcuaMobi on October 15, 2018, 10:06:23 AM

Quote from: sandy-is-fine on October 13, 2018, 10:02:38 PM

Censorship is not defined as no stopping illegal activity (THEFT). Censorship is the suppression of free expression but not the supression of theft just like the first amendment allows "free speech" but precludes yelling fire in a crowded theater when there is none. Do cops "censor" thieves when they arrest them for illegal activities ? This part of the forum condones illegal activity by not stopping the obvious thieves. Sure, sometimes there is a grey area but many times it's quite obvious.

Censorship can be argued when removing posts before a scam is made, or without absolute proof, even if it's obviously a scam, as "obviously" can be subjective.
But we agree the forum must do something about this.

hi EcuaMobi its enough time please remove your negative remarks thanks

EcuaMobi

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Quote from: sandy-is-fine on October 13, 2018, 10:02:38 PM

Censorship is not defined as no stopping illegal activity (THEFT). Censorship is the suppression of free expression but not the supression of theft just like the first amendment allows "free speech" but precludes yelling fire in a crowded theater when there is none. Do cops "censor" thieves when they arrest them for illegal activities ? This part of the forum condones illegal activity by not stopping the obvious thieves. Sure, sometimes there is a grey area but many times it's quite obvious.

Censorship can be argued when removing posts before a scam is made, or without absolute proof, even if it's obviously a scam, as "obviously" can be subjective.
But we agree the forum must do something about this.

sandy-is-fine

legendary

Activity: 1921

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AKA Ms-overzealous-condecsending-explitive-account

Quote from: EcuaMobi on October 13, 2018, 04:22:38 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-bitmain-coupons-350420500-cheap-prices-5049114 It's amazing how this forum actually supports and sustains scammers and scamming.

Quote from: bolinao on October 12, 2018, 06:44:28 PM

This guy needs red trust, he is an alt for 1inside1
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/priktrice-1265101

Tagged

Quote from: BTCforJoe on October 12, 2018, 12:29:43 PM

...it's just that there isn't a viable solution to nip their actions in the bud without becoming a censored dictatorship....
...I support the idea of not allowing sales threads to be self moderated or locked...

The forum can't censorship. It would be difficult to draw a line.
But it can certainly do something, like what you mention here plus showing some kind of trust to non registered users. It has been suggested several times and always ignored. Even if it's mainly the scammed users' fault, anything possible should be done to reduce it. Besides the need to help those users, this just increases the bad reputation of bitcoin that links it with illegal activities.

Censorship is not defined as NOT stopping illegal activity (THEFT). Censorship is the suppression of free expression but not the supression of theft just like the first amendment allows "free speech" but precludes yelling fire in a crowded theater when there is none. Do cops "censor" thieves when they arrest them for illegal activities ? This part of the forum condones illegal activity by not stopping the obvious thieves. Sure, sometimes there is a grey area but many times it's quite obvious especially in the cases of PS3o and YoutubeTV. There should be no question about them and they should be disposed of like the cockroaches they are.

EcuaMobi

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https://Ecua.Mobi

Quote from: ?? on ??

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-bitmain-coupons-350420500-cheap-prices-5049114 It's amazing how this forum actually supports and sustains scammers and scamming.

Quote from: bolinao on October 12, 2018, 06:44:28 PM

This guy needs red trust, he is an alt for 1inside1
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/priktrice-1265101

Tagged

Quote from: BTCforJoe on October 12, 2018, 12:29:43 PM

...it's just that there isn't a viable solution to nip their actions in the bud without becoming a censored dictatorship....
...I support the idea of not allowing sales threads to be self moderated or locked...

The forum can't censorship. It would be difficult to draw a line.
But it can certainly do something, like what you mention here plus showing some kind of trust to non registered users. It has been suggested several times and always ignored. Even if it's mainly the scammed users' fault, anything possible should be done to reduce it. Besides the need to help those users, this just increases the bad reputation of bitcoin that links it with illegal activities.

sandy-is-fine

legendary

Activity: 1921

Merit: 1230

AKA Ms-overzealous-condecsending-explitive-account

Quote from: BTCforJoe on October 12, 2018, 12:29:43 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-bitmain-coupons-350420500-cheap-prices-5049114 It's amazing how this forum actually supports and sustains scammers and scamming.

This has been brought up on numerous occasions, but it's not that the forum supports scammers; it's just that there isn't a viable solution to nip their actions in the bud without becoming a censored dictatorship.

At the end of the day, the users who actually fall for these "too good to be true" deals are the ones who haven't done enough due diligence or research before purchasing the products, and they're ultimately the ones at fault.

I've said it here before, and I will say it again: I support the idea of not allowing sales threads to be self moderated or locked, and really wish a new standard will be implemented. Perhaps only allowing self moderated and locked threads by Jr. Member ranks and above, as long as they do not have any negative feedback from DT1/2 members.

It sucks that this continues to be a problem, but I really don't see the admins taking any actions against this. Just keep doing what you're doing @sandy-is-fine; you're fighting the good fight!

Yea, I understand but a couple of these scumbags (Ps3o aka JAAC Skelder and 20 others) and YoutubeTV with like 30 alts have been around here for years and are so blatant they should be banned even though they will still come back again with a new alt. A dictatorship isn't needed just a little common sense to push the delete button.

bolinao

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Merit: 502

This guy needs red trust, he is an alt for 1inside1

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/priktrice-1265101

BTCforJoe

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Activity: 882

Merit: 976

Quote from: ?? on ??

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/selling-bitmain-coupons-350420500-cheap-prices-5049114 It's amazing how this forum actually supports and sustains scammers and scamming.

This has been brought up on numerous occasions, but it's not that the forum supports scammers; it's just that there isn't a viable solution to nip their actions in the bud without becoming a censored dictatorship.

At the end of the day, the users who actually fall for these "too good to be true" deals are the ones who haven't done enough due diligence or research before purchasing the products, and they're ultimately the ones at fault.

I've said it here before, and I will say it again: I support the idea of not allowing sales threads to be self moderated or locked, and really wish a new standard will be implemented. Perhaps only allowing self moderated and locked threads by Jr. Member ranks and above, as long as they do not have any negative feedback from DT1/2 members.

It sucks that this continues to be a problem, but I really don't see the admins taking any actions against this. Just keep doing what you're doing @sandy-is-fine; you're fighting the good fight!

Bruh1903

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Yea lots of scammers on here. YouTubeTV scammer for sure.

EcuaMobi

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Quote from: ?? on ??

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/buy-cheap-wwwchaturbatecom-cam4-bonga-camtokens-friendly-prices-and-legit-5039959 alt of a bunch of others (see posted trust)

Tagged and added references. Thanks

bolinao

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Activity: 835

Merit: 502

Quote from: ?? on ??

If anyone wants a real good laugh read the above linked seller's feedback (from himself to himself).

It's lonely at the bottom of the shit pile.

EcuaMobi

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Quote from: ?? on ??

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cheap-gift-cards-amazon-walmart-bestbuy-up-to-50-discount-4570951

Newbie locked gift card seller with newbie fake self vouches.

LOL, this one has a very familiar "handwriting"

Left some feedback to them...
(and to you too, thanks)

EcuaMobi

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Quote from: gr8fuldea on August 29, 2018, 12:53:41 PM

New alts to watch out for:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-get-free-psnxbox-giftcards-working-100-4802791

started by sunnybleacher, exact same post and rocketr buy addy as

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/get-free-psnxbox-giftcards-daily-100-working-method-4970606

now posting as Full member vervainagospoda who is accused in Trust ratings for defaulting on loans. I remember this scumbag from a bit ago and I thought was being accused of buying this Full member account. Could be wrong but I remember this name.

At least they do not lock their thread so we can bash them Cheesy

They were already tagged by another DT user but I've just tagged them too anyway.

gr8fuldea

member

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Merit: 13

New alts to watch out for:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-get-free-psnxbox-giftcards-working-100-4802791

started by sunnybleacher, exact same post and rocketr buy addy as

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/get-free-psnxbox-giftcards-daily-100-working-method-4970606

now posting as Full member vervainagospoda who is accused in Trust ratings for defaulting on loans. I remember this scumbag from a bit ago and I thought was being accused of buying this Full member account. Could be wrong but I remember this name.

At least they do not lock their thread so we can bash them Cheesy

EcuaMobi

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Quote from: hugeblack on August 26, 2018, 02:36:24 PM

@EcuaMobi: Please add a list of scam members to avoid dealing with them or must using escrow before that. "There are a lot of scam reports against YoutubeTV.^[1] ^[2]^......."

That list would be too long, would require to be updated several times per day and it would be imposible to be exhaustive.
That's why I and others leave negative trust and I recommend guests to register to see the seller's trust before making any deal and to avoid auto-buy links.

I can't find any advantages on maintaining this list instead of using the trust system:

It's more likely people check someone's rating than this list before making any list
This list would be maintained only by me instead of several people (your suggestion of having several users to maintain it is better, but I still don't think it's better than the trust system)
People could think the list is exhaustive and trust a scammer just because it's not on the list yet
A lot of work would be required to maintain the list
...

Let me know if I misunderstood what you mean.

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