Topic: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 200000 miners - page 244. (Read 703148 times)

On the coins tab I have amounts for several coins but only zero's for Zcash.

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At some point I was also considering that the mining software developers could be the ones that make their new software versions available to the Awesome Miner users - for example by posting a link to the latest ZIP-file somewhere and Awesome Miner would automatically pick it up. There are however some security concerns with that. If anyone else was able to put in a link to some malware, it would be really bad.

Another idea would be to have Awesome Miner monitor the github repository for the mining software that are published there - and automatically make the latest version available. There are still some complexity here, like which CUDA version to use and so on.

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The Pickaxe.pro Mining Pool discord channel uses a bot to monitor GitHub for their miner-updates channel. Seems to work well.

https://discord.gg/FK6Ddt

I've had a few similar reports in the past MSI Afterburner sometimes doesn't like too frequent clocking changes request. Can you try to put a delay between the clocking operations by going to the Options dialog, Mining Settings and add a few seconds to "Pause after applying clocking settings".

I can also announce that the development of native clocking via Awesome Miner has started. It's a bit too early to say how it will work out, but it looks promising and the plan is to let Awesome Miner do the clocking via the AMD and nVidia libraries/drivers without using external applications like MSI Afterburner. This will give Awesome Miner much more control of the clocking in the future.

Thanks for your detailed reply.

Just a small comment about the shutdown. It will not require you to put batch-files on each computer as you can enter the "shutdown" command directly in the rule in Awesome Miner. I do however understand the general point you are making here about that it's nice to have as much as possible integrated and ready-to-use in Awesome Miner.

About multiple AM installations your points are correct. For GPU mining, a Remote Agent cannot be controlled by multiple Awesome Miner instances. For ASIC mining, it's however possible to monitor the same ASIC miners from many locations. Also, Awesome Miner isn't true client-server based in this sense. It would be ideal to have the Core of Awesome Miner allowing multiple user interface application to connect. This would however require major changes, but as I've received similar comments in the past, at least from those running large scale mining operations, it might be supported in the future.

The plan for the future is to have an approach using the Cloud Services. Then both Remote Agent and Awesome Miner will communicate via outgoing connections to the cloud. None of these would require VPN or configuration of router port forwarding. Just like the communication with the Cloud uses data compression today, this new approach will also use it. Your point about the data size is very valid.

The idea is also to have the Remote Proxy concept support this for ASIC miners, making it possible to put a small computer (maybe even R-Pi later on) on the mining site and without any VPN be able to connect to the miners on this site.

Due to many other priorities it will probably take about 4 - 8 months before this is in place.

Are Zcash showing up with the correct information on the Coins tab? If you enter the same hashrate on the Coins tab as your miner can perform, will you get a revenue and profit displayed here on the Coins tab?

It's a small change to allow multi-select like jim suggestion. I can add that right away. Keeping each mining software benchmark result is also on the todo-list and will be supported later on.

I'm not sure if I understood the filtering concept (sorry about that). With the new multi-select you should be able to mark all entries for CryptonightV8 for example, check all of them, and then benchmark it. What would the filtering add in this scenario?

Thanks for all good point above.

At some point I was also considering that the mining software developers could be the ones that make their new software versions available to the Awesome Miner users - for example by posting a link to the latest ZIP-file somewhere and Awesome Miner would automatically pick it up. There are however some security concerns with that. If anyone else was able to put in a link to some malware, it would be really bad.

Another idea would be to have Awesome Miner monitor the github repository for the mining software that are published there - and automatically make the latest version available. There are still some complexity here, like which CUDA version to use and so on.

This might not be a topic that we solve right here and right now, but I appreciate all good suggestions and the goal would of course be to make new software versions available as soon as possible while still taking the entire picture into consideration.

Hi,

In auto-profit, I have a problem with overclocking.
In many cases, the frequencies recover from the original (normal when it finishes the mining) but it remains on this frequency when it begins another mining.

It does not always, but I often find my miners who mine the ETH to 100% power instead of 65% which changes everything in terms of consumption.

Thank you

Yup, might be specific to me. I asked a page or so back if it could be done in a custom script, but you didn't respond on that one. That would also work. Once I come up with a syntax for it I'll shoot you a PM regarding this.

Yup, there are also other ways of shutting down as well as rebooting using scripts, just like a WoL, but it would be nice if it was integrated into AM itself without writing scripts or batfiles outside of it. We might just be mincing words at this point as I like to have everything rolled into one thing instead of a patch works of bandaids everywhere. Not really as important as the other suggestions although a right click option outside of a rule would still be great.

Yeah, it's pretty easy to do. MACs generally don't change, so it could be even more reliable then IP or computer names for finding miners if they change names. There are a lot of options for saving MAC beyond just using it for WoL. If you're looking for how to implement WoL there are quite a few well documented examples so it makes it easy to use.

https://wiki.wireshark.org/WakeOnLAN
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/knom/2008/12/31/wake-on-lan-client-with-c/

Yes that's what I was looking for. Apparently I missed it because of 'apply managed' in front of it, I was just looking for template.


In addition, another helpful item that would be great to have in AM is redundancy in the network. Right now if you try to run multiple AM clients on the same network it causes things to freak out. It would be nice if you could have 'redundant' AMs installs that simply monitor each other and don't do anything until one or the other is changed. A usage scenario for this is obviously if the computer goes down with AM on it, the monitoring and scheduling features go with it. Other usage scenarios include mobile. If you have a laptop for instance you take home with you off the network and you have a computer you leave on the mining network, they should sync with each other when you come back to whatever is the most up to date (there is a lot of options for syncing).

hello patrike.
have you considered "reversing" the client-server communication in Awesome Miner?

using one listening AM server that will accept connections from several Remote Agents makes more sense, than establishing the connection to each Remote Agent from the server side. no need for VPNs, setting up port forwarding for each Remote Agent and so on. it should be really convenient.

also it would be great to add some data compression algo to all AM agent-server communication. the amount of traffic between Remote Agents and AM server sometimes becomes really enormous. users with low-bandwidth or traffic-limited connections will thank you

I am running the professional version of AM on my small farm of Inosillicon A9 Zmasters and for some reason I can show Horizen with totals as the coin I am mining on the Main/Miners page but when I select Zcash(the coin I am actually mining), the logos show up but no prices or totals.

I agree that it can be improved. @patrike, perhaps it's worth considering to have filtering criteria available to the benchmark dialogue, first by primary software to be benchmarked, and second by competing software where same algo is available/enabled?

I have to agree with baf28 that it can be a little annoyance of some sort, automatic update features would be nice but I also totally understand patrike's points, me for example,I don't have the newest hardware and prefers CUDA 9.x vs 10.x as there's significant performance loss if I use CUDA 10.x on some algos and no gain of majority of others. That simply adds layers of complication to achieve.

One way this could perhaps be implemented is to have some sort of (sets of) "frameworks", but it's unlikely will be made to realization in the near/foreseeable future. As there are many factors in the play such as:


-Awesome Miner's dominance of the sector (big on incentives for developers to agree on any "standards", which currently there's none)

-Still early stage for crypto and no real long term commitment from most developers (probably hard to find many software that lasts more than 3-5 years b4 its development completely stops, consequently, most coins that survived this long would likely have its algo ASICed or FPGAed)

-Dwindling profit and lack of interest in GPU mining vs potential new technologies that are slowly made available to the broader public
...and so on just to name a few

To put it simply, the efforts implementing something like this probably outweighs the benefits by far, and I doubt this will be a priority

Dialogue enhancement request.

In the Benchmark dialogue, would it be possible to multi-select different items to be benchmarked? (Shift click and Control click?)

Generally, when a new version of a miner is updated, I like to go to the benchmark dialogue and benchmark all the algorithms I have selected for that specific miner. It's a bit of a pain clicking each individual algorithm when there are 15 of them (out of 40). Sorting by miner helps, but it would be wonderful to sort by miner, click the first one for that miner, then shift click the last one for that miner and have all the algorithms for that miner selected for benchmarking.

(This kind of goes along with my other request to save each miners benchmark value.)

Thanks,
...jim

First of all, it's fully possible to manually go in to the Options dialog, Managed Software section, and paste the new mining software URL's that Awesome Miner should use. This makes it possible for you to start using the very latest mining software versions right after the release and only spending 15 seconds to make the configuration change.

In the past there was also a feature in Awesome Miner called Software Definition Update that were allowing users to download updated URL's for the mining software without having to install a new Awesome Miner version. There were however drawbacks with this approach:
 - I would still need to update the software URL's so even if I'm trying to be fast, there are new mining software versions released at any time of the day and you would still have a delay before you get the latest version.
 - Some mining software updates require additional changes to Awesome Miner (API changes, changes to command line, new parameters for algorithms, ...) so you would still require to update Awesome Miner in some cases
 - I also noticed that users delayed their updates of Awesome Miner when they got frequent Software Definition Updates, and then I got more fault reports related to faults already fixed in more recent versions. That created a frustration for everyone.

I'm very open to suggestions how to improve here. The above was just to point out that there are some complexity to consider as well.

1) This one is a bit specific and I don't think there will be much general use for a feature like this to justify new trigger settings for it. I can write a few lines of custom C# script for you that will trigger based on file content. Please give me an example of what the file format will look like and I will get back to you on this.

2) You can use the rules for this - both for manually triggering a shutdown but also as part of some automated tasks. Please see "Example: Shutdown remote PC via a button click":
https://support.awesomeminer.com/support/solutions/articles/35000085907-rules-detect-mining-issues-and-automate-tasks
The example illustrates how you can add a menu item to the Actions button where you can execute any remote command, in this case a shutdown command. This action is very flexible as it can automate many tasks on the remote miners.

3) This is a very interesting suggestion that I've actually not been thinking of before. Awesome Miner would have to save the last known MAC address of each Remote Agent but otherwise it should be quite straight forward. This would make sense to have as a rule action. I will expore this request and see when it's possible to implement.

4) Is this for use in a rule where you want to make changes on a schedule? There is a rule action called Apply Managed Template that you can use. Please let me know if this was what you were looking for or if I misunderstood your request.

Thanks for all comments, questions and feedback!

I've had a few simlar requests in the past but this is currently not supported.

Maybe it should be possible to define something like this:
- Additional power usage (W) on a global level, in addition to the individual miners. To be used to reduce the total profit on the dashboard
- Additional power user per miner - configured per profit profile
  - Possible to override this per miner as well

All this would be added on top of the power usage specified per algorithm.

Please let me know your view on this.

It is necessary to somehow stop this disgrace with a constant update.
Patrike, you need to figure out how to automatically update the miner. It would be good to make a notification about the release of a new miner and update the miner separately from the program.

Thanks