Can someone suggest a *NOOB* starting setup that will be a good example around profit mining.
I did the obvious and enabled everything and let 6 1080Ti's run for 2 days. But with all the coin conversion costs and pool fees, I made less than I made just mining ZEC on Flypool with the same setup. Wasn't expecting that.
The numbers suggested the completely opposite that just simply didn't work out.
So, lets get a little more real. What would you suggest as a starting point?
Thanks in advance,
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January 30, 2018, 02:40:56 PM
January 30, 2018, 01:27:07 PM
I've been scanning through the AM API interface and I'm getting the impression that it might be possible to code something so that I can throttle GPU clocks to control them at certain temperatures...
I'm wondering if I can keep all GPUs to stay under 70C, while getting the power up to 90% and Core Clock up to +50. Obviously then each GPU will have different power/core values...
Would this be possible? Thanks!
I'm wondering if I can keep all GPUs to stay under 70C, while getting the power up to 90% and Core Clock up to +50. Obviously then each GPU will have different power/core values...
Would this be possible? Thanks!
January 30, 2018, 12:24:33 PM
Anyone have tips on getting MultiPool profit per day estimates to work in profit switching (asic)
January 30, 2018, 12:14:20 PM
Here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG16ENVpQlg
p.s. @patrike I mentioned this bug on here a few months ago and haven't had any luck. It has spanned multiple versions of the software - both primary and the remote agent have been updated several times with the bug never going away.
Jeez...I have this right now too.. So bloody annoying! I want to clear out the hosts and create new ones. They are f'd up! Anyone know how to delete hosts? Haven't found a way yet. I was in the ConfigData.xml and found the hosts, I tried deleting them but they came back.
JJ
Hi JJ,
I'm curious as to what makes you think it is hosts related? I've tried mapping to IP addresses without using host names and it still does it.
Sorry that you have the same bug... fingers crossed Patrike can help
Just want to confirm for Patrike that I have had the same bugs: touch one miner and another miner stops then the Start button does nothing and have to click on Properties tab and click OK to restart the miner. I have 18 miners working and this only happens with a few.
I have tried everything you did and maybe more....no luck.
January 30, 2018, 11:36:44 AM
AM's whole point is to try to keep your rigs doing what they do best... mining. You can get really complex with your automation, or keep it simple. That part is up to you.
If your mining software stalls or crashes, your should troubleshoot why that is happening. Maybe the mining software is buggy, you might have driver issues, a bad riser, or power supply issues? Trying to force AM to compensate for these problems will always have you going down a rabbit hole of trying to resolve edge cases.
If your mining software stalls or crashes, your should troubleshoot why that is happening. Maybe the mining software is buggy, you might have driver issues, a bad riser, or power supply issues? Trying to force AM to compensate for these problems will always have you going down a rabbit hole of trying to resolve edge cases.
Right, but if I'm away for some time I also want it to keep mining until I'm able to troubleshoot, hence the question. Good point about changing pools rule, I need to look into that further.
January 30, 2018, 11:03:56 AM
Hi all,
Just started checking out this software and have a question about the "online services" tab. It appears that most are listed as 24hr actual, which is awesome...But I'm curious about mining pool hub. It doesn't say if that's current or 24hr actual...The reason I ask is that is REALLY seems to move a lot when it updates...so I'm guessing that one is a "current profit" ?
Just started checking out this software and have a question about the "online services" tab. It appears that most are listed as 24hr actual, which is awesome...But I'm curious about mining pool hub. It doesn't say if that's current or 24hr actual...The reason I ask is that is REALLY seems to move a lot when it updates...so I'm guessing that one is a "current profit" ?
You are correct. Yiimp style pools like zpool or ahashpool provide 24hr actual in their APIs.
I understand how to add a custom coin profile, however when you set the btc/gh rate its just static. A lot of yiimp style pools have the API to read the 24hr actual, is there anyway to allow that to update from an API pull on a custom pool?
If the pool mines a coin that doesn't come out of the box in AM, you go to the Coins & Profit tab in the options and define a new user defined coin. Then on the Statistics tab, you can add the coin's JSON URL from Whattomine (if it exists) to help AM glean information about this coin.
Thanks that worked perfectly. I am having an issue now in my custom pools, I select a different pool from options yet it still keeps mining a pool I have already deleted. I have restarted both awesome miner and the entire system. Any ideas how to fix this?
Also, if I make a custom group of pools that all have JSON info in them, can awesome miner automatically switch between miners in that group?
January 30, 2018, 10:35:17 AM
for 24 hour profitability settings, why would you not set it to 1 minute or 5 minutes? It doesn't switch very often anyway. The problem I have with that at least on my system is it will basically just mine bitcore forever.
From my experience you need to be careful when selecting pools for this. AHashpool is most reliable in terms of not experiencing / showing crazy spikes, while zpool and MHP are the worst.
In my experience, ahashpool stats are totally misleding. I deactivated it from my profit switch.
January 30, 2018, 09:35:29 AM
Patrike the HTTP API coin setting is wonderful, thank you very much. I am making extensive use of it.
As another line item, can you please add the ability to create new coins via the API as well? The plugins I'm writing/hope to be distributing sorely need it.
Something along the lines of:
POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/NEW?longname=COIN_NAME&shortname=CNNME&algo=skein
Thank you!
Quoting hoping for integration As another line item, can you please add the ability to create new coins via the API as well? The plugins I'm writing/hope to be distributing sorely need it.
Something along the lines of:
POST http://mypc:17790/api/coins/NEW?longname=COIN_NAME&shortname=CNNME&algo=skein
Thank you!
January 30, 2018, 08:43:54 AM
hi,
im getting this issue im not able to mine..
[2018-01-30 10:39:17] API open locally in full access mode on port 4068
[2018-01-30 10:39:47] ...retry after 30 seconds
i can only mine equahash but when neoscript or ccminer comes i see this msg,
please help me...
im getting this issue im not able to mine..
[2018-01-30 10:39:17] API open locally in full access mode on port 4068
[2018-01-30 10:39:47] ...retry after 30 seconds
i can only mine equahash but when neoscript or ccminer comes i see this msg,
please help me...
does it happen with all ccminer algos? if using profit miner, go edit profit profile to only enable ccMiner, then at Miner's tab on main window, right click miner -> Diagnostics...
This would give a more detailed output as to where the mining process encountered the error, post it here (feel free to edit out your username/wallet address) so ppl can help pinpoint the issue.
this is what i got in diagnostics report,
sir please help me, really need help..
Quote
Starting Diagnostics. Awesome Miner version: 4.4
Starting Mining Software
Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 1
Engine Type: CcMiner, Auto Download: True, EnginePath: , Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
Added rule for: (DELETED)
C:\Users\Mandeep Singh\AppData\Local\AwesomeMiner\ccminer-2.2.4_1\ccminer-x64-2.2.4-cuda9\ccminer-x64.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12012 -u mandeep148.awesomeminer -p x -b 0.0.0.0:4028 (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: CcMiner, IsProfitMiner: True)
Configuration:
Mining Engine Process started, PID: 7712
====================================================================================================
> *** ccminer 2.2.4 for nVidia GPUs by tpruvot@github ***
> Built with VC++ 2013 and nVidia CUDA SDK 9.0 64-bits
>
> Originally based on Christian Buchner and Christian H. project
> Include some kernels from alexis78, djm34, djEzo, tsiv and krnlx.
>
> BTC donation address: 1AJdfCpLWPNoAMDfHF1wD5y8VgKSSTHxPo (tpruvot)
>
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43][36m Starting on stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12012[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43] NVML GPU monitoring enabled.[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43] NVAPI GPU monitoring enabled.[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43] 4 miner threads started, using 'neoscrypt' algorithm.[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43][31m ...retry after 30 seconds[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:44] API open to the network in read-only mode on port 4028[0m
====================================================================================================
Stopping miner process ...
Stopping Mining Software
Diagnostics completed
Starting Mining Software
Setting up Miner Engine. Instance: 1
Engine Type: CcMiner, Auto Download: True, EnginePath: , Subtype: Disabled, CustomExecutable:
Added rule for: (DELETED)
C:\Users\Mandeep Singh\AppData\Local\AwesomeMiner\ccminer-2.2.4_1\ccminer-x64-2.2.4-cuda9\ccminer-x64.exe -a neoscrypt -o stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12012 -u mandeep148.awesomeminer -p x -b 0.0.0.0:4028 (WindowMode: ConsoleFormat, EngineType: CcMiner, IsProfitMiner: True)
Configuration:
Mining Engine Process started, PID: 7712
====================================================================================================
> *** ccminer 2.2.4 for nVidia GPUs by tpruvot@github ***
> Built with VC++ 2013 and nVidia CUDA SDK 9.0 64-bits
>
> Originally based on Christian Buchner and Christian H. project
> Include some kernels from alexis78, djm34, djEzo, tsiv and krnlx.
>
> BTC donation address: 1AJdfCpLWPNoAMDfHF1wD5y8VgKSSTHxPo (tpruvot)
>
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43][36m Starting on stratum+tcp://hub.miningpoolhub.com:12012[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43] NVML GPU monitoring enabled.[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43] NVAPI GPU monitoring enabled.[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43] 4 miner threads started, using 'neoscrypt' algorithm.[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:43][31m ...retry after 30 seconds[0m
> [2018-01-30 19:10:44] API open to the network in read-only mode on port 4028[0m
====================================================================================================
Stopping miner process ...
Stopping Mining Software
Diagnostics completed
January 30, 2018, 08:26:47 AM
Hi,
are you using profit miner or managed miner? If you are using profit miner and have compatible API/Command Line miner where it shows up in the Profit Profile of your configured Profit Miner, it should be easy. (apologies, I have not experimented with SW without the API and CMD compatibility but supposedly a good fiddle around should get that working too)
So assuming the conditions meet, in the above, you need to enable the Ethereum algorithm for both softwares in Options -> Managed Softwares
Then you need to enable both softwares in Profit Profile in Mining software section.
Next You use the up and down arrow to order the priority of the mining software, put your Eth Only software on top of Claymore Dual, and you should be good to go.
AM should now mine exclusive Eth only with your Eth Only software, and still do Dual Mining with Claymore.
***
If you use Managed Miner instead of Profit Miner, you should utilize the Templates feature to achieve the above.
are you using profit miner or managed miner? If you are using profit miner and have compatible API/Command Line miner where it shows up in the Profit Profile of your configured Profit Miner, it should be easy. (apologies, I have not experimented with SW without the API and CMD compatibility but supposedly a good fiddle around should get that working too)
So assuming the conditions meet, in the above, you need to enable the Ethereum algorithm for both softwares in Options -> Managed Softwares
Then you need to enable both softwares in Profit Profile in Mining software section.
Next You use the up and down arrow to order the priority of the mining software, put your Eth Only software on top of Claymore Dual, and you should be good to go.
AM should now mine exclusive Eth only with your Eth Only software, and still do Dual Mining with Claymore.
***
If you use Managed Miner instead of Profit Miner, you should utilize the Templates feature to achieve the above.
It's a profit miner. The miners are API compatible and they both show up in the Profit Profile. The only enabled algorithm for the custom miner is "Ethereum", all others are set to disabled. The custom miner is above the standard miner in the Profit Profile, so it should be used for Ethereum only. However, the custom miner is used even for Blake 2b and LBRY, even though those are set to "disabled" in the custom miner config.
I have various miners and setting a specific miner for a specific algoritum works fine in general, but not for the dual algos it seems.
January 30, 2018, 07:37:37 AM
hi,
im getting this issue im not able to mine..
[2018-01-30 10:39:17] API open locally in full access mode on port 4068
[2018-01-30 10:39:47] ...retry after 30 seconds
i can only mine equahash but when neoscript or ccminer comes i see this msg,
please help me...
im getting this issue im not able to mine..
[2018-01-30 10:39:17] API open locally in full access mode on port 4068
[2018-01-30 10:39:47] ...retry after 30 seconds
i can only mine equahash but when neoscript or ccminer comes i see this msg,
please help me...
does it happen with all ccminer algos? if using profit miner, go edit profit profile to only enable ccMiner, then at Miner's tab on main window, right click miner -> Diagnostics...
This would give a more detailed output as to where the mining process encountered the error, post it here (feel free to edit out your username/wallet address) so ppl can help pinpoint the issue.
January 30, 2018, 07:31:14 AM
It looks like it's not possible to use one mining software for the eth dual algos and another for single ethereum. If I disable "Ethereum" for the standard Claymore miner and enable it for another, it always uses the same one for all algos.
Hi,
are you using profit miner or managed miner? If you are using profit miner and have compatible API/Command Line miner where it shows up in the Profit Profile of your configured Profit Miner, it should be easy. (apologies, I have not experimented with SW without the API and CMD compatibility but supposedly a good fiddle around should get that working too)
So assuming the conditions meet, in the above, you need to enable the Ethereum algorithm for both softwares in Options -> Managed Softwares
Then you need to enable both softwares in Profit Profile in Mining software section.
Next You use the up and down arrow to order the priority of the mining software, put your Eth Only software on top of Claymore Dual, and you should be good to go.
AM should now mine exclusive Eth only with your Eth Only software, and still do Dual Mining with Claymore.
***
If you use Managed Miner instead of Profit Miner, you should utilize the Templates feature to achieve the above.
January 30, 2018, 06:09:14 AM
hi,
im getting this issue im not able to mine..
[2018-01-30 10:39:17] API open locally in full access mode on port 4068
[2018-01-30 10:39:47] ...retry after 30 seconds
i can only mine equahash but when neoscript or ccminer comes i see this msg,
please help me...
im getting this issue im not able to mine..
[2018-01-30 10:39:17] API open locally in full access mode on port 4068
[2018-01-30 10:39:47] ...retry after 30 seconds
i can only mine equahash but when neoscript or ccminer comes i see this msg,
please help me...
January 30, 2018, 06:00:41 AM
It looks like it's not possible to use one mining software for the eth dual algos and another for single ethereum. If I disable "Ethereum" for the standard Claymore miner and enable it for another, it always uses the same one for all algos.
January 30, 2018, 01:24:28 AM
Kindof lost me here, whats the difference between a pool group and MPH or Zpool? I thought these were "pool groups"
A pool group is a set of pools. They can consist of different algos, or a bunch of pools for one coin (or both)... that part is up to you. Online Services MPH and Zpool is a single pool with multiple algos/coins.
With a pool group, you can setup your own pseudo-online service, and use profit switching based on the Coins tab... which is whattomine's data. Whereas with an Online Service, you will use their data.
For me, I have pool groups with maybe the top 5 coins that I really like to mine. On another pool group I will have a bunch of pools that mine the same coin. Some of the pools I mine to are dodgy, so if they are offline, AM will go to the next one.
I think I follow you now
Thanks
Exactly. There are tons of different strategies out there. For me, I usually mine a few speculation coins for a week, then "profitable" coins for about 2 weeks, then finally my favorite coins for a week. I like to diversify my strategies.
When coins are on a downswing in exchange rate, the difficulty usually follows. For me, that's when I mine some of those "profitable" coins. If it's not a total crap coin, it will eventually go back up. If not, then I cut bait and find another one.
If you dig around enough and hold, you'll find some winners. If you sell them all for "profit" as soon as you mine them, you could be dumping what could be a winner later on. Speculation coins are fun, you never know how they turn out, and you can typically get a giant pile of them in no time.
January 30, 2018, 12:40:50 AM
Kindof lost me here, whats the difference between a pool group and MPH or Zpool? I thought these were "pool groups"
A pool group is a set of pools. They can consist of different algos, or a bunch of pools for one coin (or both)... that part is up to you. Online Services MPH and Zpool is a single pool with multiple algos/coins.
With a pool group, you can setup your own pseudo-online service, and use profit switching based on the Coins tab... which is whattomine's data. Whereas with an Online Service, you will use their data.
For me, I have pool groups with maybe the top 5 coins that I really like to mine. On another pool group I will have a bunch of pools that mine the same coin. Some of the pools I mine to are dodgy, so if they are offline, AM will go to the next one.
I think I follow you now
Thanks
January 30, 2018, 12:33:58 AM
Kindof lost me here, whats the difference between a pool group and MPH or Zpool? I thought these were "pool groups"
for a moment didn't catch this sentence in the quotes lol, in addition to Puwaha's explaination:
A Pool Group in AM is something you setup under Options -> Pools, where you define individual pools which has profit information from Whattomine (default) or Coinwarz and can be used with all your miners, External, Managed and Managed Profit. To use them for Managed Profit Miner when you have many, many individual pools setup already, you need to create a pool group under Options -> Pools -> Pool Groups tab. These pools don't have to came from the same pool owners, they can be from Suprnova, Nanopool to any available pools out there really.
MPH, Yiimp based pools are Multipools, they are like...Groups of Pools...rather than Pool Groups, they run their own metrics within multiple algos (and many coins within some algos) that they provide and gauge the profit within their own pools. They have their own switching rules even if you don't use AM, MPM or the likes, some switches between algos, some only between coins of the same algo (Yiimp) and MPH kind of does both to a certain extent.
what AM does is that it combines both Multipools' and non-Multipools' metrics and allows profit switching between pool providers so you get a lot more flexibility but also have your hashrate and earnings more scattered which can be more of a negative impact for casual low hashrate miners since payout threshold then would take longer to achieve.
Hope this doesn't make it more confusing.
January 30, 2018, 12:31:09 AM
Hi all,
Just started checking out this software and have a question about the "online services" tab. It appears that most are listed as 24hr actual, which is awesome...But I'm curious about mining pool hub. It doesn't say if that's current or 24hr actual...The reason I ask is that is REALLY seems to move a lot when it updates...so I'm guessing that one is a "current profit" ?
Just started checking out this software and have a question about the "online services" tab. It appears that most are listed as 24hr actual, which is awesome...But I'm curious about mining pool hub. It doesn't say if that's current or 24hr actual...The reason I ask is that is REALLY seems to move a lot when it updates...so I'm guessing that one is a "current profit" ?
You are correct. Yiimp style pools like zpool or ahashpool provide 24hr actual in their APIs.
I understand how to add a custom coin profile, however when you set the btc/gh rate its just static. A lot of yiimp style pools have the API to read the 24hr actual, is there anyway to allow that to update from an API pull on a custom pool?
If the pool mines a coin that doesn't come out of the box in AM, you go to the Coins & Profit tab in the options and define a new user defined coin. Then on the Statistics tab, you can add the coin's JSON URL from Whattomine (if it exists) to help AM glean information about this coin.
January 30, 2018, 12:27:28 AM
Kindof lost me here, whats the difference between a pool group and MPH or Zpool? I thought these were "pool groups"
A pool group is a set of pools. They can consist of different algos, or a bunch of pools for one coin (or both)... that part is up to you. Online Services MPH and Zpool is a single pool with multiple algos/coins.
With a pool group, you can setup your own pseudo-online service, and use profit switching based on the Coins tab... which is whattomine's data. Whereas with an Online Service, you will use their data.
For me, I have pool groups with maybe the top 5 coins that I really like to mine. On another pool group I will have a bunch of pools that mine the same coin. Some of the pools I mine to are dodgy, so if they are offline, AM will go to the next one.
January 30, 2018, 12:06:48 AM
@puwaha, @patrike
question for you if you don't mind. I understand your argument for using 24hr averages (and preferably even longer) vs instant and having running switching no more often than once an hour or so. I'm still to see the results - I used to run switching every 1-5 minutes with a high threshold for switching, like 30-40% (call it 1/1/30). I need to run it for the whole day or 2 to make a conclusion. But here's a problem that surfaced right away when using 24hr/1hr pattern (i'll call it 24/1/10) - bad pools. So if I run 1/1/30 and the pool is bad, which can be manifested in multiple ways, for instance AM keeps restarting a miner saying that the process is not running (though accepted # keeps ticking) or no accepted blocks are coming in, then the pool will potentially quickly drop off the top of the profitability table and AM will happily switch to (hopefully) a non-corrupted pool. Now if the same problem arises during my 24/1/10 configuration, I'm potentially screwed for hours - the best AM miner can do here (I wish it could be more intelligent dealing with multiple restarts, except just stop trying after X times and stopping the miner in the process) is to keep restarting the miner, which does no good, since it keeps going back to the same corrupted pool. Have you run into something like this before (btw, it seems that lots of pools are having problems in the last couple days)? How would you deal with it?
question for you if you don't mind. I understand your argument for using 24hr averages (and preferably even longer) vs instant and having running switching no more often than once an hour or so. I'm still to see the results - I used to run switching every 1-5 minutes with a high threshold for switching, like 30-40% (call it 1/1/30). I need to run it for the whole day or 2 to make a conclusion. But here's a problem that surfaced right away when using 24hr/1hr pattern (i'll call it 24/1/10) - bad pools. So if I run 1/1/30 and the pool is bad, which can be manifested in multiple ways, for instance AM keeps restarting a miner saying that the process is not running (though accepted # keeps ticking) or no accepted blocks are coming in, then the pool will potentially quickly drop off the top of the profitability table and AM will happily switch to (hopefully) a non-corrupted pool. Now if the same problem arises during my 24/1/10 configuration, I'm potentially screwed for hours - the best AM miner can do here (I wish it could be more intelligent dealing with multiple restarts, except just stop trying after X times and stopping the miner in the process) is to keep restarting the miner, which does no good, since it keeps going back to the same corrupted pool. Have you run into something like this before (btw, it seems that lots of pools are having problems in the last couple days)? How would you deal with it?
If I do any profit switching, I'm typically doing a pool group, not online services like zpool, MPH, etc. Online services switch too much for my tastes.
Now, for a service being down, there are rule actions like Miner command. This has options like "Change pool", or "Change Pool Group" that might help you. There's also a rule action to apply template. I would have a good reliable pool to mine a single coin as a template ready to go, or do the Change Pool or Pool Group action setup on all your miners as a fall back. It's better to mine a good reliable coin for a few hours until you get a chance to check out the problem with the Online Service than to have your miner sitting idle.
Kindof lost me here, whats the difference between a pool group and MPH or Zpool? I thought these were "pool groups"
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PS: I find it quite useful to monitor the # of accepted blocks in the last 3-5 minutes and if that number stalls force profit switching and restarting the rig. HOWEVER, and that might be another question, it seems that AM has a "miner not running, restarting" routine that's run outside of the rules framework and I can't figure out how to intercept it and, potentially, force it to run a profit switching before restarting the miner - have you ever dealt with that one?
AM's whole point is to try to keep your rigs doing what they do best... mining. You can get really complex with your automation, or keep it simple. That part is up to you.
If your mining software stalls or crashes, your should troubleshoot why that is happening. Maybe the mining software is buggy, you might have driver issues, a bad riser, or power supply issues? Trying to force AM to compensate for these problems will always have you going down a rabbit hole of trying to resolve edge cases.
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