Topic: B-Eleven sha-256 ASIC miner (Read 14775 times)
They said the same thing when I emailed at the end of December. They're mining in house and will release the miner to the public when it's just about obsolete for most people IMO.
I was curious about the new miner, so I asked BW about it via e-mail.
And I even got a response pretty quickly.
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And I even got a response pretty quickly.
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Good to get a reply, even if it does not say much....
Rich
Yeah. They are up to it, but they don't promise any schedule yet
But the good thing is it seems they did not say ohhh no home/hobby miner. I think this will be a next gen that us normal people can get. Which is great I think for us.
I hope we see one some with great specs.... but I will settle for them selling to home/hobby even if it takes longer
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I was curious about the new miner, so I asked BW about it via e-mail.
And I even got a response pretty quickly.
..........
And I even got a response pretty quickly.
..........
Good to get a reply, even if it does not say much....
Rich
Yeah. They are up to it, but they don't promise any schedule yet
I was curious about the new miner, so I asked BW about it via e-mail.
And I even got a response pretty quickly.
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And I even got a response pretty quickly.
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Response:
Yes of course. the general release of the new miner is sure to be, but the timing is not yet known exactly.
Our staffer, who deals with these issues now is not in the office.
as will appear more detailed information about it we will tell you, the main thing that you reminded about it in advance
Original message:
Hi! Is BW going to make a general release of the newest (14nm?) miner like
Bitmain has made with Antminer S7 and Canaan Creative has done with Avalon6?
Seems like it would perform more efficiently than these miners above, which
would be great news for miners.
Yes of course. the general release of the new miner is sure to be, but the timing is not yet known exactly.
Our staffer, who deals with these issues now is not in the office.
as will appear more detailed information about it we will tell you, the main thing that you reminded about it in advance
Original message:
Hi! Is BW going to make a general release of the newest (14nm?) miner like
Bitmain has made with Antminer S7 and Canaan Creative has done with Avalon6?
Seems like it would perform more efficiently than these miners above, which
would be great news for miners.
Good to get a reply, even if it does not say much....
Rich
I was curious about the new miner, so I asked BW about it via e-mail.
And I even got a response pretty quickly.
(click on thumbnail)
And I even got a response pretty quickly.
(click on thumbnail)
Quote
Response:
Yes of course. the general release of the new miner is sure to be, but the timing is not yet known exactly.
Our staffer, who deals with these issues now is not in the office.
as will appear more detailed information about it we will tell you, the main thing that you reminded about it in advance
Original message:
Hi! Is BW going to make a general release of the newest (14nm?) miner like
Bitmain has made with Antminer S7 and Canaan Creative has done with Avalon6?
Seems like it would perform more efficiently than these miners above, which
would be great news for miners.
Yes of course. the general release of the new miner is sure to be, but the timing is not yet known exactly.
Our staffer, who deals with these issues now is not in the office.
as will appear more detailed information about it we will tell you, the main thing that you reminded about it in advance
Original message:
Hi! Is BW going to make a general release of the newest (14nm?) miner like
Bitmain has made with Antminer S7 and Canaan Creative has done with Avalon6?
Seems like it would perform more efficiently than these miners above, which
would be great news for miners.
Looks like prisma and dragon 
It is... He said it was old used equipment.
That 1.5T dragon is a HEAVY miner to. It was in 40-50 pound range if I remember right. I think shipping of them is going to be a little hard. I selling that one and after was like ohhh crap this is heavier then I remember.
Are they selling in bulk? Or just single units? I'm surprised if they are interested in spending time selling old gear 1 by 1. The good news... maybe they are closer to spec on B11 and making room.
Looks like prisma and dragon
It is... He said it was old used equipment.
Looks like prisma and dragon
Not B11 but BW have just put up for sale some used mining equipment. Unfortunately it's a graphic so cannot translate, but I guess it's indicative of things moving on.
I assume these are what were known as B1 & B9?
Rich
I assume these are what were known as B1 & B9?
Rich
So likely they have extremely cheap electricity which would make sense. And once they get a better batch of chips I suspect likely it's a easy switch to put new chips in.
It may of course not be their electricity cost, but the Hash Investment carries a charge of 0.5 CNY/KWh which is about 8 Cents. So far from Cheap?
Rich
Same thing with Hashnest. They profit by obtaining cheap power then charging customers over 8 cents per kWh.
I agree they charge customer far above what they actually pay I think. I am willing to bet they pay a few cent's..... and charge customer that 8 cent's. Makes for extra profit for them.
There is no way hashnest pay's 8 cents even after cooling and everything. They are well below it (I suspect at least in China mines).
Yeah no doubt about it, that's where their money really comes from.
If they would charge us what they get I suspect we would have a lot better chance of profit. Cloud mining at maybe 2 cents or so of cost.... now that sounds like a pretty attractive investment to me.
But I don't see them ever sharing cheap electricity sadly. They will keep that internal, and in some places I really don't think 1-2 cents is crazy with usage they provide. I think they have some pretty amazing deals (this is all speculation).
So likely they have extremely cheap electricity which would make sense. And once they get a better batch of chips I suspect likely it's a easy switch to put new chips in.
It may of course not be their electricity cost, but the Hash Investment carries a charge of 0.5 CNY/KWh which is about 8 Cents. So far from Cheap?
Rich
Same thing with Hashnest. They profit by obtaining cheap power then charging customers over 8 cents per kWh.
I agree they charge customer far above what they actually pay I think. I am willing to bet they pay a few cent's..... and charge customer that 8 cent's. Makes for extra profit for them.
There is no way hashnest pay's 8 cents even after cooling and everything. They are well below it (I suspect at least in China mines).
Yeah no doubt about it, that's where their money really comes from.
So likely they have extremely cheap electricity which would make sense. And once they get a better batch of chips I suspect likely it's a easy switch to put new chips in.
It may of course not be their electricity cost, but the Hash Investment carries a charge of 0.5 CNY/KWh which is about 8 Cents. So far from Cheap?
Rich
Same thing with Hashnest. They profit by obtaining cheap power then charging customers over 8 cents per kWh.
I agree they charge customer far above what they actually pay I think. I am willing to bet they pay a few cent's..... and charge customer that 8 cent's. Makes for extra profit for them.
There is no way hashnest pay's 8 cents even after cooling and everything. They are well below it (I suspect at least in China mines).
So likely they have extremely cheap electricity which would make sense. And once they get a better batch of chips I suspect likely it's a easy switch to put new chips in.
It may of course not be their electricity cost, but the Hash Investment carries a charge of 0.5 CNY/KWh which is about 8 Cents. So far from Cheap?
Rich
Same thing with Hashnest. They profit by obtaining cheap power then charging customers over 8 cents per kWh.
So likely they have extremely cheap electricity which would make sense. And once they get a better batch of chips I suspect likely it's a easy switch to put new chips in.
It may of course not be their electricity cost, but the Hash Investment carries a charge of 0.5 CNY/KWh which is about 8 Cents. So far from Cheap?
Rich
B16 cloud mining is released as 149w/ths...
I am assuming that B11 & B12 are based on the BW-LK1401 Chip & B16 on the BW-LK1402 Chip?
Here are a few numbers from the various bits of data that have been released.
BW-LK1401 Chip 160W/TH 0.16J/GH
BW-LK1402 Chip 95W/TH 0.095J/GH
B11 Miner 260W/TH 0.26J/GH
B16 Miner 149W/TH 0.149J/GH
B11 ends up a bit disappointing with significant losses between the chip and the Miner, presumably because of the Buck converters? This make it only an S7 class miner, whose Days are numbered.
The B16 is better however still significant losses between Chip and Miner, 36% so presumably still Buck based rather than string?
Rich
I have been thinking about this miner some... and I think this proves low electricity cost's. To not meet refined efficiency but still go in a production of it, means they see profit in it.
So likely they have extremely cheap electricity which would make sense. And once they get a better batch of chips I suspect likely it's a easy switch to put new chips in.
B16 cloud mining is released as 149w/ths...
I am assuming that B11 & B12 are based on the BW-LK1401 Chip & B16 on the BW-LK1402 Chip?
Here are a few numbers from the various bits of data that have been released.
BW-LK1401 Chip 160W/TH 0.16J/GH
BW-LK1402 Chip 95W/TH 0.095J/GH
B11 Miner 260W/TH 0.26J/GH
B16 Miner 149W/TH 0.149J/GH
B11 ends up a bit disappointing with significant losses between the chip and the Miner, presumably because of the Buck converters? This make it only an S7 class miner, whose Days are numbered.
The B16 is better however still significant losses between Chip and Miner, 36% so presumably still Buck based rather than string?
Rich
B16 cloud mining is released as 149w/ths...
OK I found the 51asic picture, looks like they have taken delivery of a few.
Still not clear to me what the Red & Black wires are, but we can now see they have plugs on. Still feel there is something missing (The Controller?) here as those trailing plugs are odd & where is the RJ45?
However I make 750W & 2.8TH to be 0.268J/GH which is very disappointing. Just hope that is a spec sheet quote & that they are better than that?
Rich
Still not clear to me what the Red & Black wires are, but we can now see they have plugs on. Still feel there is something missing (The Controller?) here as those trailing plugs are odd & where is the RJ45?
However I make 750W & 2.8TH to be 0.268J/GH which is very disappointing. Just hope that is a spec sheet quote & that they are better than that?
Rich
This would be the first public sale of 14nm I think. So impressive on that part. I agree on specs I don't know if those deserve to be called B11's. It's no where near the specs - https://www.bw.com/pool/miner
And 2T is smaller then the 3T mentioned as bottom speed on miner spec page. So.... i'm hoping these are internal miners and rush to racks to use before having. And we will see a better miner for B11 hit market. That is my hope.
2.8T is close enough to 3T to count. The efficiency is close to what they pre-announced, no shock there.
Still, too little too late to matter to anyone that didn't preorder the B11/B12 hash stuff.
It will be interesting to see how soon they can get their 1402 chip to market - the one that appears like it MIGHT be fairly competative with the new Bitfury chip....
Noise-wise BW might be better : 2 fans in parallel to cool 750watt....
Price still high!
Price still high!
I follow 51asic on instagram and he posted a picture Yesterday with the new b-eleven 2.8th miner.
I afsked him the Price and he replied 575$
I afsked him the Price and he replied 575$
That's a bad price since its only 2.8TH/s and 0.25W/GHS. An S7 is better.
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