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Quote from: QuintLeo on October 11, 2015, 07:03:47 PM

It would appear that the chips (probably Innosilicon A3) used in it are not "full custom" 14/16nm, but rather are "standard cell" type which is a lot faster and more reliable to design at the cost of lower performance/efficiency.

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100% SCAM....after KnC, Butterfly labs and etc. who the fuck will purchase a miner (rendered wtf) from chinese site

Lketc is part-owner of bw.com - doubtfull this is a scam with the track record Lketc has.

The one quote I've seen so far on price was "0.76 BTC per TH" - nowhere near the $500/TH that the OP mentions.
At $500/TH this would not be a competative design at all, with ZERO chance of achieving RoI even on very cheap electric.

I have seen 0.76 BTC/T but only in relation to their B-Eleven Hash Investment program.

https://www.bw.com/beleven

Have not seen anything in relation to a Miner purchase and would be very surprised if any prices had bee released yet?

51ASIC from the OP's post just seems to have a speculative (Scam?) announcement.

Very soon !
NEWEST Miner B-ELEVEN
Heshreyt : 3TH / s, 5TH / s, 10TH / s
Power consumption : 260W / TH
Process technology : 14nm
Price: 500 USD for the TH / s

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Quote from: RichBC on October 11, 2015, 02:29:51 PM

My assumptions are just gleaned from what I have read on the Net & Forum, no first hand information or experience.

What I do find interesting is the range of lower GH/S specs which are more geared towards Home Mining than Big Customers, so we will have to wait to see?

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They could be just using it to get some press with BW. If they truly buy that many from LKETC I suspect they could ask for a special data center design. Or they might do a ton of that design and just have a lot more hours of install's.

And who know's they could do a controller like S5+ where you could link multiple modules together. So they could do same design but use different controller that hooks up multiple. That would take little effort.

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It would appear that the chips (probably Innosilicon A3) used in it are not "full custom" 14/16nm, but rather are "standard cell" type which is a lot faster and more reliable to design at the cost of lower performance/efficiency.

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100% SCAM....after KnC, Butterfly labs and etc. who the fuck will purchase a miner (rendered wtf) from chinese site

Lketc is part-owner of bw.com - doubtfull this is a scam with the track record Lketc has.

The one quote I've seen so far on price was "0.76 BTC per TH" - nowhere near the $500/TH that the OP mentions.
At $500/TH this would not be a competative design at all, with ZERO chance of achieving RoI even on very cheap electric.

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My assumptions are just gleaned from what I have read on the Net & Forum, no first hand information or experience.

What I do find interesting is the range of lower GH/S specs which are more geared towards Home Mining than Big Customers, so we will have to wait to see?

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Quote from: RichBC on October 11, 2015, 02:14:27 PM

My understanding is Miner design is LK Group, chips assumed to be InnoSilicon? BW.com is planning using them in their B-Eleven Cloud Mining Investment program with a target of 10000TH.

Rich

Ok that makes sense. Kinda disappointing if first X number get sold to them for that. That would be a while till LKETC needs us regular customers.

I was hoping they would open with Customers. But if they do this it's likely a lot will be going to data centers if that is the model they already are mmaking deals with.

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My understanding is Miner design is LK Group, chips assumed to be InnoSilicon? BW.com is planning using them in their B-Eleven Cloud Mining Investment program with a target of 10000TH.

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Quote from: RichBC on October 11, 2015, 01:55:25 PM

Quote from: larry12 on October 11, 2015, 01:39:00 PM

100% SCAM....after KnC, Butterfly labs and etc. who the fuck will purchase a miner (rendered wtf) from chinese site ? you have to be kidding me there are still peoples who believes in Santa.

Not available yet but here is the original on the BW.com Website.

https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

The are hoping to have it ready for January 1st but would not be surprised if it was late.

Discussion here.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12650782

Rich

Interesting BW is a big name to get behind the miners. So is it LKETC or BW that is doing that design?

I'm suspecting that it will be later then January 1st aswell. With us still not seeing a prototype and it only having 2 months left in year not a lot of time to get mass production, unless they are just very secretive which is possible.

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Quote from: larry12 on October 11, 2015, 01:39:00 PM

100% SCAM....after KnC, Butterfly labs and etc. who the fuck will purchase a miner (rendered wtf) from chinese site ? you have to be kidding me there are still peoples who believes in Santa.

Not available yet but here is the original on the BW.com Website.

https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

The are hoping to have it ready for January 1st but would not be surprised if it was late.

Discussion here.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12650782

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100% SCAM....after KnC, Butterfly labs and etc. who the fuck will purchase a miner (rendered wtf) from chinese site ? you have to be kidding me there are still peoples who believes in Santa.

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Quote from: Rabinovitch on October 11, 2015, 01:10:40 PM

Quote from: sloopy on October 11, 2015, 01:00:37 PM

I saw the same renderings in another post yesterday where people were discussing Avalon, Insolicon, etc. I will dig it up.
I hope it is true, but I fear it may not be.

It's strange that 14nm-based miner has the same power consupmtion as S7, but it looks more expensive than S7... I hope real specs will differ for the better.

It is really since BM took the 28nm and perfected it in a way. They kept same NM but found a way to get a lot more out of same NM. SP did the same I believe and got even lower they are reporting.

On the 14 NM it is very very new (I don't know if we have even seen a working prototype). But hope is later on they will be able to get even more out of it.

But it's looking like those who choose to stick with 28 NM are the winners right now as they are able to sell.

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Quote from: sloopy on October 11, 2015, 01:00:37 PM

I saw the same renderings in another post yesterday where people were discussing Avalon, Insolicon, etc. I will dig it up.
I hope it is true, but I fear it may not be.

It's strange that 14nm-based miner has the same power consupmtion as S7, but it looks more expensive than S7... I hope real specs will differ for the better.

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Quote from: sloopy on October 11, 2015, 01:00:37 PM

I saw the same renderings in another post yesterday where people were discussing Avalon, Insolicon, etc. I will dig it up.
I hope it is true, but I fear it may not be.

Do not order. I believe the renderings were from LKETC (insolicon's long term partner). - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12650782

So the B-Eleven is actually someone Else's rendering. Unless LKETC is letting them use the design which is unlikely.

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.msg

I saw the same renderings in another post yesterday where people were discussing Avalon, Insolicon, etc. I will dig it up.
I hope it is true, but I fear it may not be.

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Hi all!

Has anyone heard anything about B-ELEVEN ASIC miner? One russian site, 51ASIC.ru promises to sell it soon.

All that I found here is their own thread and something about B-Eleven cloud mining provider in Chinese section:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/51asicru-b-eleven-1190324

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/b-eleven-cloud-mining-investment-b-11-1157590

Preliminary specs:

Hashrate: 3TH/s, 5TH/s or 10TH/s
Power consumption: 260 W/TH
Technology: 14nm
Price: $500 per TH/s

And here are some renders at bw.com website:

https://www.bw.com/pool/miner

Any opinions? Any details?

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