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Topic: bad news for bASIC - not shipping til mid Jan at best - page 16. (Read 25500 times)

legendary
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Lets just wait another few weeks untill BFL will ship before Christmas, if not i will hoard as many gpu,s as i can... Cool


Do you still believe in "Santa Claus"? Cheesy Who knows people say that miracles still happen by Christmas time....
hero member
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COINDER
 Shocked

Everyone who,s waiting for there device and don,t have a fpga/gpu farm@the moment is MISSING or missed a lot of BTC making due to the crapy forward pushing delays..

Will there be some compensation or will the companies just have the right to scream a lot of information and yet not deliver.

I find it unbelieveble that 4 or 5 different companies who claim using there own specific fabricage hasn,t deliverd only 1 working chip thats for real.. blowing the competition away easely..but only words and disrespectfull trolling each other treads for months now gives me the thinking..could it be the worst thing that is about to happen in Bitcoin land so far  Huh Huh the hardware fraud  Huh I hope not but haven,t we had hoped things before that went terribly wrong Huh

Lets just wait another few weeks untill BFL will ship before Christmas, if not i will hoard as many gpu,s as i can... Cool
legendary
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If someone is mining with asic would you not have to partly hand build things bringing one or two units online every few days?
legendary
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Moreover, if someone with an ASIC wanted to mine without revealing they're working with an ASIC, they would wait say 8 minutes since the last block was found. In many cases they would pocket the 25 BTC without increasing the overall hash rate that much.
This would not work.  The "network hashrate" that is reported by various sites is just an estimate determined purely by the difficulty and the frequency of recent blocks. Selectively mining would still increase this estimate.

Of course the hash rate would increase, since there would no longer be >15 minutes blocks. But it would be a modest increasing and it could be sensibly attributed to variance.
hero member
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Former curator of The Bitcoin Museum
I SMELL COLLUSION

Sorry, had curry for tea.

 Lips sealed
legendary
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meme.. they are everywhere Tongue

What is a meme?

for some reason i think he's lying

Nah, I wasn't lying when I was asking what it was. Shortly after my last post I Googled it and figured it out.

hero member
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Moreover, if someone with an ASIC wanted to mine without revealing they're working with an ASIC, they would wait say 8 minutes since the last block was found. In many cases they would pocket the 25 BTC without increasing the overall hash rate that much.
This would not work.  The "network hashrate" that is reported by various sites is just an estimate determined purely by the difficulty and the frequency of recent blocks. Selectively mining would still increase this estimate.
legendary
Activity: 1974
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Moreover, if someone with an ASIC wanted to mine without revealing they're working with an ASIC, they would wait say 8 minutes since the last block was found. In many cases they would pocket the 25 BTC without increasing the overall hash rate that much.
legendary
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Well someone is hashing, cus that hashrate is growing way too fast for no asics to be online. That's why i'm out. People are getting strung along while a few individuals are making mad coin. Don't know who it is but something is fishy. Lets see how things look in a few months.
Dafuq? You've been "seeing" ASICs in the network growth rate for months now! How about pointing me to the charts where you see these ASICs?

Well I got a chart of my own, so lets look:


Hmm, the 3day average was the same as it was a week ago. Weird.

What's that? You think they've been online for a while? Lets look further:



Again, the network is still only <10% larger than it was 2 months ago.

I see no proof of ASICs anywhere.
legendary
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Well someone is hashing, cus that hashrate is growing way too fast for no asics to be online. That's why i'm out. People are getting strung along while a few individuals are making mad coin. Don't know who it is but something is fishy. Lets see how things look in a few months.

FPGAs are still coming online consistently and price per BTC has been going up in the recent past so people were not shutting down. Also, in my climate (US) things are getting cold, which means cooling mining machines are much easier and actually produce useful heat.

If you still believe something is fishy it shouldn't too difficult to target where the increase in hashrate is. I think bitcoin mining is transparent enough that you should be able to detect an anomaly if it's there.
Well, either BTC is increasing in value, or the Dollar is decreasing in value and is being inflated.



sr. member
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Well someone is hashing, cus that hashrate is growing way too fast for no asics to be online. That's why i'm out. People are getting strung along while a few individuals are making mad coin. Don't know who it is but something is fishy. Lets see how things look in a few months.

FPGAs are still coming online consistently and price per BTC has been going up in the recent past so people were not shutting down. Also, in my climate (US) things are getting cold, which means cooling mining machines are much easier and actually produce useful heat.

If you still believe something is fishy it shouldn't too difficult to target where the increase in hashrate is. I think bitcoin mining is transparent enough that you should be able to detect an anomaly if it's there.
sr. member
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Cryptopreneur
Well someone is hashing, cus that hashrate is growing way too fast for no asics to be online. That's why i'm out. People are getting strung along while a few individuals are making mad coin. Don't know who it is but something is fishy. Lets see how things look in a few months.
sr. member
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Well if that's the case(and it looks that way atm), then that's a win for customers of Avalon & bASIC, as well as investors of ASICMiner. ROI for the smaller ASIC vendors' customers would have been significantly lengthened if BFL had been able to get several TH of ASICs into miner's hands before the end of 2012.
legendary
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I believe none of the ASIC producers will shipping before mid Jan...
only IMHO  Wink
sr. member
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Trust me, these default swaps will limit the risks
meme.. they are everywhere Tongue

What is a meme?

for some reason i think he's lying

Nah, I wasn't lying when I was asking what it was. Shortly after my last post I Googled it and figured it out.
legendary
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meme.. they are everywhere Tongue

I hate those guys.  I usually leave them trapped in their box when I encounter one.
full member
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meme.. they are everywhere Tongue

What is a meme?

for some reason i think he's lying
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