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Topic: [BCN] Bytecoin. Secure, private, untraceable since 2012 - page 106. (Read 1070171 times)

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From https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/26we1g/why_monero_and_not_bytecoin/

fluffyponyza said :

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The blockchain was not publicly observable or observed for those 2 years. We have no reason to believe it is true, and even if it was true it still means that ~151 billion of the 184 billion BCN (82%) were mined prior to its public release. Think about that pragmatically. Would you want to use a currency where unknown actors controlled over 80% of it? This alone takes Bytecoin from being decentralised to being centralised by virtue of those controlling the flow of the currency.

Is it True ? If it's True then Holy Mother of God..........

Yes that post is absolutely true.

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So serious Why does someone need badly this 82%?

Greed and stupidity (with a healthy dose of deep-seated and pervasive dishonesty making it all possible, and making anything else they say unworthy of being believed).





Which ostensibly makes Bytecoin an obfuscated "ICO-issued" illegal investment security.



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Has anyone been able to verify the existence of Pundit Pawan Sharma? (Bytecoin India Community Manager?)

There are loads of them on fb and LinkedIn. You'd of thought that he would have given us a link...

Or Jenny Goldberg?

I'm still trying...
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There appears to be a lot of Bag Holding trolls on this thread.
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From https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/26we1g/why_monero_and_not_bytecoin/

fluffyponyza said :

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The blockchain was not publicly observable or observed for those 2 years. We have no reason to believe it is true, and even if it was true it still means that ~151 billion of the 184 billion BCN (82%) were mined prior to its public release. Think about that pragmatically. Would you want to use a currency where unknown actors controlled over 80% of it? This alone takes Bytecoin from being decentralised to being centralised by virtue of those controlling the flow of the currency.

Is it True ? If it's True then Holy Mother of God..........

Yes that post is absolutely true.

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So serious Why does someone need badly this 82%?

Greed and stupidity (with a healthy dose of deep-seated and pervasive dishonesty making it all possible, and making anything else they say unworthy of being believed).

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^^ Yep. So..

- the domain registered in 2011
- no content on site till 2013 (apart from a girl's picture and a notice saying the domain is available for sale)
- in 2014 the site content appears with a list of posts since 2012
- magic
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Hi Guys,

Since Jenny is preparing a reply to counter all the allegations of Premine and I agree that it is taking longer than expected, would request you to hold your conclusions for some more time as you have already waited for 5 years, I guess another week or two won't do any harm.

Also I did some digging on old website and found something (Snapshot Attached).

https://ibb.co/kTgZ4F

Which discloses the news of mining the first block on 07/04/2012 and this proves that dev team was pretty open in sharing the updates. There are chances that due to lack of awareness about ByteCoin, most of the people could have missed that.

Have a Nice Weekend Ahead.

Regards,
Pundit

Wow....   a screenshot?  Really?  just wow.

So you're saying that the bytecoin.org site was up and running in 2012 and regular updates were publicly being posted?


You know what? I also have a screenshot. Of the same website. From march 2013. And it doesn't look anything like what you're claiming. Here you go:


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Hi Guys,

Since Jenny is preparing a reply to counter all the allegations of Premine and I agree that it is taking longer than expected, would request you to hold your conclusions for some more time as you have already waited for 5 years, I guess another week or two won't do any harm.

Also I did some digging on old website and found something (Snapshot Attached).

https://ibb.co/kTgZ4F

Which discloses the news of mining the first block on 07/04/2012 and this proves that dev team was pretty open in sharing the updates. There are chances that due to lack of awareness about ByteCoin, most of the people could have missed that.

Have a Nice Weekend Ahead.

Regards,
Pundit

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They messed up and lost it
Gave a lot of it away
waiting to get rich off them


That's an opinion and we know what they are like.

Fluffy's is an assessment, based upon available facts.

What facts do you have to verify they lost it, gave it (all?) away?


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I don't
just being mischievous
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They messed up and lost it
Gave a lot of it away
waiting to get rich off them

That's an opinion and we know what they are like.

Fluffy's is an assessment, based upon available facts.

What facts do you have to verify they lost it, gave it (all?) away?

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Is it True ? If it's True then Holy Mother of God..........

So serious Why does someone need badly this 82%?

They messed up and lost it
Gave a lot of it away
waiting to get rich off them

You can put other reasons in. At the end of the day the choice is yours support it, not support it.
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From https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/26we1g/why_monero_and_not_bytecoin/

fluffyponyza said :

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The blockchain was not publicly observable or observed for those 2 years. We have no reason to believe it is true, and even if it was true it still means that ~151 billion of the 184 billion BCN (82%) were mined prior to its public release. Think about that pragmatically. Would you want to use a currency where unknown actors controlled over 80% of it? This alone takes Bytecoin from being decentralised to being centralised by virtue of those controlling the flow of the currency.

Is it True ? If it's True then Holy Mother of God..........

So serious Why does someone need badly this 82%?
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My challenge went unanswered. Instead, a whole lot of useless mumbo-jumbo was thrown at this thread by so called official people who manage the development of this coin. But no real answers to the questions raised.

OK, let me try again.

I want to make a donation to one of those indian temples. Just tell me who accepts it and to which BCN address (not the physical address) i should send my money.

You already said MANY temples already stated accepting, so providing one of the donation addresses shouldn't be that difficult, right? RIGHT?
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@sqbit

You are right to question the giving of BCN to the temples.

The scammy nature of BCN would certainly be rejected by many and to attempt to cleanse this coin with religion, is a bit over the top.

I doubt it has ever occurred in the first place, which was my point.

Please keep up the good work.

Your post was great.
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The wind on the top of the mountain is blowing all the time, hoping to save me
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Dear SQBit,

Yes I am very active on BCN Slack & Telegram channel and also on Bytecoin India website because I have a community to build and manage. I try to put most of my time & efforts where my community needs it. My users are not here on this thread but in slack & telegram. I love to spend my time troubleshooting issues my users are facing with their wallets, miners and their queries about ByteCoin.

We send average 100 emails everyday to tech companies, exchanges & potential application designers and thats just me, there are 8 more community managers who are doing same in their own capacity and this demands our time and plenty of it.

Also I did not said I am not willing to reply, what I said was I am not very active on Bitcointalk but will still reply from time to time because as community managers our prime job is to help our community, build it further, Listen to voices of our users and get new features added, not just writing refutations here.

I hope you would understand that we all have limited time in day and we all try to achieve what we love during those hours.

Also we would love if you could make your visits regular instead of occasional bcoz we answer queries much more faster there.

Have Good Weekend Ahead !!

Regards,
Pundit
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Incredible! Amazing!
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Dear All,

I would like to introduce myself as Pundit Pawan Sharma and I am Community Manager for ByteCoin India. I registered in bitcointalk today only, just to add my two cents to this thread which is going on since the beginning of time I would say. Couple of things about me -

Pundit Pawan Sharma is my real name and can be searched on LinkedIn & Facebook.
I am an IT Infrastructure & Security Consultant for 15 Years.

Why I am telling this is bcoz I am a real person and not a proxy or pseudo identity and guys who are connected with me on LinkedIn or Facebook will vouch for my credibility. This matter to plenty of guys here as I can see.

When I told Jenny that we are helping couple of temples here in India to reconnect with their old followers who are now migrant workers in Dubai & Singapore and are able to get donations using FreeWallet on their cheap android phones, We both felt its a great news and people should know and accept this as a great use case. Since both of us are new to Community Management we had no idea that people who belong to an ecosystem which is completely based on anonymity and are themselves communicating use fake ID’s would be so concerned about the identity of the temples.

I am surprised to see that guys here are even willing to send their friends to temples just to reveal their names. This is amazing to see that flag bearers of complete anonymity are putting in so much effort to remove anonymity covers of others.

Anyways, I would like to Thank everybody who doubted or countered our news and in fact from the core of my heart because it is just because of you guys we are on track of making ByteCoin Donations legal in India. Soon we would be unveiling our new portal and you would love to have look at the key features of the portal -

Religious Institution & NGO’s would be able to create profile on the portal.
All profiles would be approved after manual verifications by designated community members to avoid fake fundraising incidents.
Key contacts of the institutions would be listed under profile and users would be able to communicate with them via portal
Our Portal would manage the compliance part for the institution by keeping all donation & trade records.
Institutions would be able to create their own need based fundraisers.
All donations received by Institutions would be publicly visible.
Users will still be able to donate anonymously by simply scanning the QR code or copying the address of the respective institution. (No Registration Required)

Plenty of features like smart support & systematic withdrawal would be revealed later.

Now I know there are few guys, who are deeply in love with BCN ;-) would get butterflies in their stomach to know the launch date, Let me give you hint of it.

My friend posses very detailed knowledge about India would also know that despite all the efforts to improve "Ease of Doing Business” rank by PM Modi, company formation & Bank account still takes 4 weeks in India. Meanwhile our team would be working on the platform & integration part and we have some more important milestones to achieve like -

We have to release payment processor plugins for Wordpress, Woocommerce & Magento by 21st Sep.
Followed by plugin for OSCommerce, OpenKart & Zenkart.
PHP IPN for PHP integration.

In the end I would like to add a line from José Emilio - “We are all hypocrites. We cannot see ourselves or judge ourselves the way we see and judge others.”

Also I am not very active on BitCoinTalk as I am “Deaf to Negativity” and have a community to build so please bear if I do not reply frequently.

Regards,
Pundit

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Here we are! New Bytecoin Wallet release

Version 2.1.1 for Reference Client & 1.1.9.2 for GUI!



Good work, i am confident bytecoin wil reach $1 in next 2 to 3 years.
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Here we are! New Bytecoin Wallet release

Version 2.1.1 for Reference Client & 1.1.9.2 for GUI!

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baseless accusations

Really? I thought it was clear.

Can you provide evidence that temples in India are receiving BCN donations?

A video interview? A news report from a reputable news agency? A sworn statement from a Sikh?
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