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Quote from: Ucy on July 01, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Is there such a big difference between gambling and betting?

both words can be used in a gambling sentence . for ex. i will gamble or i will bet today on this xxxx.xxx casino but they are spelled differently and for him the other has a different meaning .
he can also say that he will play on xxxx.xxx casino and not use the term gambling or betting because he will only play for fun and not for profit .

The moment you placed a bet, you're already taking a big risk, because no matter what excuses you'll say, gambling is gambling, the risk is unpredictable on how big it is each time you bet, but mostly you're going to lose that bet. Therefore there's no such thing as "bet, but don't gamble" that's ridiculous, betting is when you're playing gambling, simple as that, that's why it's called a "bet" for a reason.

Since you can't control the risk you're taking in gambling, that's where being responsible will enter. Being responsible means you know how much you'll bet and when to stop betting.

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I myself when I get a lot of profit then I will try to make a withdrawal profit and after that if I still want to play at the gambling place then I have to create a new account so that the account will be neutral and not be the target of the gambling place.

With saying gambling place, do you mean about the online casino or the physical one? if it's both. AFAIK, there are TOS and rules that only allows 1 player to own 1 account only. So if you're doing that, then you're going to face such problems if the casino where you are playing finds out that you've made another one and if there's another lucky day for you, they might track that you're the same guy that have won and would put in their minds a question of why you have to make another account.

AFAIK some of them not restricting having another account because at the end of the day the player makes a deposit to the gambling platform and still another profit this to the platform but some of them right now they restrict having a one account if they have Know your customer or KYC verificaion to avoid getting dummy and spam accounts to their database.

That has to be verified with the casino that you gamble because that's what I've read before and in some of them. It's easy to check them before you sign up so that you won't have any problems and issues when you're about to take your money out from that casino. Because if something flags from your account and it's clearly on their TOS that you're not allowed to make another account, you'll experience but as long as there's no problem and it's from the casino you play, you're good to continue.

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Both bet and gamble use money. The difference is the word itself, but have both have the same means.

So responsible gambler will be a gambler who can take care of himself while playing gambling, and he always reminds him that he doesn't need to play for a long time. He can quit gambling anytime he wants without having a wanting to win more. But many gamblers already lose much money in gambling because they can't become responsible gamblers. That is a lesson for us.

Not easy as what how we say it, being responsible takes a lots considerations,

Many gamblers failed to this criteria and become addicted especially those who got engaged and been attached too much, you have

to work within you and try to limit yourself, money management and emotionless playing, it will lessen chances of losing a lot and
it will save you time and money.

I can hardly imagine myself winning or losing completely emotionlessly. Human nature will not allow this to be done.
As far as money management is concerned, this is certainly a good and correct approach. But remember, for example, if you trade in cryptocurrencies, how many times have you regretted the decisions you made when you got losses? It is impossible to be completely unemotional about this, but over time and experience, of course, managing decisions about rates plays an increasing role. And I think it brings results.

Human nature will act based on emotion, and if you win or lose in gambling, your emotion will reflect that. If you can manage your emotion in gambling, whether you win or lose, you will not feel "Too" reacting instead, and you can still calm down and thinking clear.

If you trade in cryptocurrencies, that emotion will make almost the same as in gambling. All of that can be control by calm down so you can see what you need to do related to the current situation. Yes, it is impossible to unemotional, but at least we can try to manage the emotion not becoming bigger. And if that becomes bigger while we can't still control it, we can get something that we don't want.

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Quote from: Pamadar on July 01, 2021, 10:41:26 AM

Quote from: maydna on July 01, 2021, 07:01:06 AM

Both bet and gamble use money. The difference is the word itself, but have both have the same means.

So responsible gambler will be a gambler who can take care of himself while playing gambling, and he always reminds him that he doesn't need to play for a long time. He can quit gambling anytime he wants without having a wanting to win more. But many gamblers already lose much money in gambling because they can't become responsible gamblers. That is a lesson for us.

Not easy as what how we say it, being responsible takes a lots considerations,

Many gamblers failed to this criteria and become addicted especially those who got engaged and been attached too much, you have

to work within you and try to limit yourself, money management and emotionless playing, it will lessen chances of losing a lot and
it will save you time and money.

I can hardly imagine myself winning or losing completely emotionlessly. Human nature will not allow this to be done.
As far as money management is concerned, this is certainly a good and correct approach. But remember, for example, if you trade in cryptocurrencies, how many times have you regretted the decisions you made when you got losses? It is impossible to be completely unemotional about this, but over time and experience, of course, managing decisions about rates plays an increasing role. And I think it brings results.

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Quote from: maydna on July 01, 2021, 07:01:06 AM

Both bet and gamble use money. The difference is the word itself, but have both have the same means.

So responsible gambler will be a gambler who can take care of himself while playing gambling, and he always reminds him that he doesn't need to play for a long time. He can quit gambling anytime he wants without having a wanting to win more. But many gamblers already lose much money in gambling because they can't become responsible gamblers. That is a lesson for us.

Not easy as what how we say it, being responsible takes a lots considerations,

Many gamblers failed to this criteria and become addicted especially those who got engaged and been attached too much, you have

to work within you and try to limit yourself, money management and emotionless playing, it will lessen chances of losing a lot and
it will save you time and money.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 01, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

The topic makes me laugh whenever i come across it. I hope we learn something Important and Safe from the thread.
Well, I actually choose to be a Responsible Bettor whenever i decide to bet on Football, Dice, Lottery , Stocks, Currencies etc
Everyone can decide to call it whatever is safe and good for them. Let's ~~gambul~~ gamble on stocks,dice, football etc" doesn't work for me.
I always choose "Let's Bet."

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Is there anyone that can ever be responsible in gambling? Responsibility in gambling needs total abstenance from it.There is no way an addict in gambling will have enough money to gamble with,and won't gamble. Gambling is a spirit that one can hardly resist,especially when you are an addict.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 01, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Is there such a big difference between gambling and betting?

both words can be used in a gambling sentence . for ex. i will gamble or i will bet today on this xxxx.xxx casino but they are spelled differently and for him the other has a different meaning .
he can also say that he will play on xxxx.xxx casino and not use the term gambling or betting because he will only play for fun and not for profit .

Both bet and gamble use money. The difference is the word itself, but have both have the same means.

So responsible gambler will be a gambler who can take care of himself while playing gambling, and he always reminds him that he doesn't need to play for a long time. He can quit gambling anytime he wants without having a wanting to win more. But many gamblers already lose much money in gambling because they can't become responsible gamblers. That is a lesson for us.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 01, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Is there such a big difference between gambling and betting?

both words can be used in a gambling sentence . for ex. i will gamble or i will bet today on this xxxx.xxx casino but they are spelled differently and for him the other has a different meaning .
he can also say that he will play on xxxx.xxx casino and not use the term gambling or betting because he will only play for fun and not for profit .

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Quote from: delfastTions on July 01, 2021, 03:48:50 AM

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You remembered responsibility for your actions. These are essential elements of our behavior and decision-making motivation. I could compare a person's choice of an action option with an endless tape of different options, and his conscious choice. The brain is a very delicate and unexplored instrument. Therefore, sometimes what is reasonable and responsible from your point of view, from the point of view of other people, may look like madness and stupidity. And then I was very interested in the question, and how would artificial intelligence choose a solution, for example, in the gaming field of activity. Accidentally, based on statistics or otherwise. And it is very interesting to compare the options with the actions of real people.
But all these are assumptions, perhaps the community should develop the idea of AI solutions.

Interesting idea regarding AI. I would go for "based on statistics" option first. If major gambling sites, where billions of bets made, provided the AI with input data it could tell us to which degree it is important to be a responsible gambler.(We already know that it's important, but what we don't know is how many times, say, per year, we can afford a bit of recklessness). Another option could be trillions and trillions simulations. I wouldn't mind seeing those results too.

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Quote from: Ucy on July 01, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

The topic makes me laugh whenever i come across it. I hope we learn something Important and Safe from the thread.
Well, I actually choose to be a Responsible Bettor whenever i decide to bet on Football, Dice, Lottery , Stocks, Currencies etc
Everyone can decide to call it whatever is safe and good for them. Let's ~~gambul~~ gamble on stocks,dice, football etc" doesn't work for me.
I always choose "Let's Bet."

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

Even a responsible gambler can take a risk but they have proper risk management. Like adding a limit for their winning and losses it depends on the gambler.

Quote from: passwordnow on July 01, 2021, 04:52:37 AM

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I myself when I get a lot of profit then I will try to make a withdrawal profit and after that if I still want to play at the gambling place then I have to create a new account so that the account will be neutral and not be the target of the gambling place.

With saying gambling place, do you mean about the online casino or the physical one? if it's both. AFAIK, there are TOS and rules that only allows 1 player to own 1 account only. So if you're doing that, then you're going to face such problems if the casino where you are playing finds out that you've made another one and if there's another lucky day for you, they might track that you're the same guy that have won and would put in their minds a question of why you have to make another account.

AFAIK some of them not restricting having another account because at the end of the day the player makes a deposit to the gambling platform and still another profit this to the platform but some of them right now they restrict having a one account if they have Know your customer or KYC verificaion to avoid getting dummy and spam accounts to their database.

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The topic makes me laugh whenever i come across it. I hope we learn something Important and Safe from the thread.
Well, I actually choose to be a Responsible Bettor whenever i decide to bet on Football, Dice, Lottery , Stocks, Currencies etc
Everyone can decide to call it whatever is safe and good for them. Let's ~~gambul~~ gamble on stocks,dice, football etc" doesn't work for me.
I always choose "Let's Bet."

Bet ,but don't gamble.
A Responsible Person doesn't take big risk or gamble

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I myself when I get a lot of profit then I will try to make a withdrawal profit and after that if I still want to play at the gambling place then I have to create a new account so that the account will be neutral and not be the target of the gambling place.

With saying gambling place, do you mean about the online casino or the physical one? if it's both. AFAIK, there are TOS and rules that only allows 1 player to own 1 account only. So if you're doing that, then you're going to face such problems if the casino where you are playing finds out that you've made another one and if there's another lucky day for you, they might track that you're the same guy that have won and would put in their minds a question of why you have to make another account.

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Quote from: hahay on June 30, 2021, 10:35:53 PM

Is it out of prestige or shame to admit? What makes them have these two different thoughts?
Humans are social creatures so it's perfectly natural for them to want help, but if they have different feelings or thoughts like that or can't admit it, then the only reason is lack of confidence.
Because responsible gamblers are those who are strong to fight and solve the problems they face, so there is no longer any different thinking in him. Deciding to solve it themselves or ask for help is not a problem, because most importantly they can do it with confidence and determination. Do not confuse yourself with these different thoughts, because it will only make you more confused because it is difficult to focus.

You remembered responsibility for your actions. These are essential elements of our behavior and decision-making motivation. I could compare a person's choice of an action option with an endless tape of different options, and his conscious choice. The brain is a very delicate and unexplored instrument. Therefore, sometimes what is reasonable and responsible from your point of view, from the point of view of other people, may look like madness and stupidity. And then I was very interested in the question, and how would artificial intelligence choose a solution, for example, in the gaming field of activity. Accidentally, based on statistics or otherwise. And it is very interesting to compare the options with the actions of real people.
But all these are assumptions, perhaps the community should develop the idea of AI solutions.

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Quote from: hahay on June 30, 2021, 10:35:53 PM

responsible gamblers are those who are strong to fight and solve the problems they face, so there is no longer any different thinking in him. Deciding to solve it themselves or ask for help is not a problem, because most importantly they can do it with confidence and determination.

Yeah, being responsible while gambling must be the highest state a gambler could achieve which is possible only after long experiences. It means a responsible gambler must be capable of solving everything on their own and on first encounter itself. Availing external help for reaching solution must be a right approach because you must be aware of how to solve rather than struggling unable to proceed.

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if I still want to play at the gambling place then I have to create a new account so that the account will be neutral and not be the target of the gambling place.

But, most crypto gambling houses are too strict against having more than one account; so I guess you must need to be more conscious while choosing your places before kicking off with one place by double checking their terms and conditions.

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But not all gamblers or addicted gamblers is ready to seek help,some were too immature to accept the fact that they are addicts and they need to change if they want to make their lives better. There is a need for the people who surrounds them to understand be patient and to not give up on pursuing their love ones to stop the addiction. It's hard but somehow if that person really want to change they'll be able to do it.

I don't think so, remember that we have two layers in our mind which is the conscious and unconscious mind, what I am trying to say is that they might not want to get help consciously but their unconscious self knows better that they really need the help.

Is it out of prestige or shame to admit? What makes them have these two different thoughts?
Humans are social creatures so it's perfectly natural for them to want help, but if they have different feelings or thoughts like that or can't admit it, then the only reason is lack of confidence.
Because responsible gamblers are those who are strong to fight and solve the problems they face, so there is no longer any different thinking in him. Deciding to solve it themselves or ask for help is not a problem, because most importantly they can do it with confidence and determination. Do not confuse yourself with these different thoughts, because it will only make you more confused because it is difficult to focus.

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Keeping records of their gambling expenses and profits is more depressing and stressful if they'll do that, so they choose to avoid it or they don't really want to do it because it's just a waste of time or whatever. All they wanted is to win every time they play gambling, however, like most of us knows, most of the time the majority of gamblers are losing.

That's why making it as your job to earn money is never an option, because that's not how gambling works, it's a 30:70 chance of winning, as always.

For me it's not, I keep a record to know if I'm really profitable in gambling or not, that's when I like to make an experiment if it's possible to make money in gambling based on my personal experience. Everyone needs to learn how to record if they are after for consistency or improvement of their skills in gambling, it has to be taken seriously as we are dealing with the risk of losing our money here.

Keeping records is really important and not only about the money that you use while you are gambling but about all the money that you have spent, after all if we are thinking about retiring someday then we need to have some savings and investments, and while there are many countries in which governments manage the retirements accounts of their citizens we need to be honest and remember that most countries are basically bankrupt so I will not be surprised if they decide to keep that money and never give it back, as such keeping records of our expenses, including gambling, is a must to see if we have been successful so far and if not to reduce our expenses to manageable levels.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 29, 2021, 06:04:59 AM

Quite right. Those who advertise themselves and their success usually try to monetize this fame, or they are initially paid for such activity. This is true for almost all areas of activity, and especially gambling/trading on the stock exchange/forex. I do not like such hidden advertising, especially considering that these are risky activities and people can seriously believe in the "guaranteed" winnings there.

I saw an advertisement of a gambler who said he won more than 2 million pounds and there was an article about another gambler who lost all his winnings in just one night. I'd call the losing guy's story a better advertisement here because it is teaching gamblers not to gamble too much because whether trading or gambling, both these things are famous for quick money making and even faster fatty losses. It is not quite good when a gambler shows off his wins because (as I believe in superstitions) if a gambler unnecessarily talks too much about his success, then that success slips away from his hands very quickly.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 27, 2021, 03:10:49 PM

How many of these gamblers do you know? I'm sure if you know someone it's someone who wrote a book or blogged on YouTube or sells "working" strategies, right? If there is some kind of working strategy, then you need to keep silent about it, otherwise it will quickly stop working. I'm not sure about the honesty of those people who brag about their successes.

Success can't be bragged about, and if it's shouted off by the gambler who succeeded, then he doesn't succeed at all and only claiming it to gain fame. There is no gambler in this world who can turn gambling into a revenue except those who were lucky enough to win lotteries/ jackpots or at least won a hefty life changing amount through gambling then they stop doing it. If a gambler remains addicted, there are always those chances of losing the money. No gambler can always book profits (even with losses).

Quite right. Those who advertise themselves and their success usually try to monetize this fame, or they are initially paid for such activity. This is true for almost all areas of activity, and especially gambling/trading on the stock exchange/forex. I do not like such hidden advertising, especially considering that these are risky activities and people can seriously believe in the "guaranteed" winnings there.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 28, 2021, 06:07:26 PM

Even in online gambling space you will see many obsessive gamblers who does not know how to stop unless they loose millions of dollars.

That's too much obsession and there really are situations that happens like that.

But even not having a million dollars, there are those obsessed gamblers that cannot control themselves and forgotten to be responsible with their own actions.

Even a hundred to thousand of dollars, they can spend that within a short period of time.

The obsession to keep on winning is often what makes a gambler not winning but losing...

those who have entered the addiction stage often have no desire to stop at all, they are really really obsessed no matter where the money comes from in an instant, they have to spend it.

I think that they have the desire to stop. But since they are already attached to the game and they've invested heavily with their emotions, they cannot dettach to it.

And that's why even if they want to stop, they just can't. I've been there and experienced that feeling.

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Quote from: boyptc on June 29, 2021, 04:20:00 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 28, 2021, 06:07:26 PM

Even in online gambling space you will see many obsessive gamblers who does not know how to stop unless they loose millions of dollars.

That's too much obsession and there really are situations that happens like that.

But even not having a million dollars, there are those obsessed gamblers that cannot control themselves and forgotten to be responsible with their own actions.

Even a hundred to thousand of dollars, they can spend that within a short period of time.

The obsession to keep on winning is often what makes a gambler not winning but losing...

those who have entered the addiction stage often have no desire to stop at all, they are really really obsessed no matter where the money comes from in an instant, they have to spend it.

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