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Quote from: blackened515 on June 26, 2021, 09:12:56 AM

Ofcourse there are people who benefit from gambling,but to take gambling as a hubby is not ideal.Keeping some money that you want to waste or give away is the one appropriate to use in gambling.

I want to correct you, I think you're wrong. Gambling should take as a hobby not a serious matter to gain profit since gambling is an entertainment and should be as a hobby. Well they waste money to fulfill their needs which is by playing gambling (Entertainment) well what you are saying is also good but of course people will not going to follow it.

No one is wrong here, we can treat gambling the way we want, it could also be a source of income as we can't deny there are gamblers who really made a fortune in gambling, but we should be honest with ourselves, we have to understand that in order to achieve that kind of success, we need to have the skills. Gambling is entertainment for most, but for some people it's a serious business.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 24, 2021, 07:43:19 AM

.. but don't try to earn money through gambling.

Don't tell that to those experienced gamblers who have made a fixed income thru gambling.

That's why there are professional gamblers. These people know how to manage their bankroll properly, plus their good gambling skills, that's why even the difficult part, which is turning their gambling activity into revenue, they made it possible.

For us casual gamblers, we can't be like that so that's where the part of only gamble the amount afford to lose should be applied.

Ofcourse there are people who benefit from gambling,but to take gambling as a hubby is not ideal.Keeping some money that you want to waste or give away is the one appropriate to use in gambling.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 24, 2021, 07:43:19 AM

.. but don't try to earn money through gambling.

Don't tell that to those experienced gamblers who have made a fixed income thru gambling.

That's why there are professional gamblers. These people know how to manage their bankroll properly, plus their good gambling skills, that's why even the difficult part, which is turning their gambling activity into revenue, they made it possible.

For us casual gamblers, we can't be like that so that's where the part of only gamble the amount afford to lose should be applied.

I have to agree with that as I'm one of the believers that there are people who really make money in gambling consistently, there's a professional gambler and they called themselves professional for a reason. The reality is sad because majority of the gamblers loses, but it's not impossible to make money in gambling if you have the skills in doing it, so that's where the statement is coming that one could make money in gambling.

Only those who can afford to gamble their money all the time are the one who are making money here, but if you think gambling can be your main source of income especially if you are living as a middle class, then you might be putting yourself on a big risk because losing money is gambling is very normal as always. Be a responsible gambling all the time, know the pros and cons before you play and if you do have extra money, make sure to gamble the right way.

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Quote from: chaser15 on June 24, 2021, 06:56:06 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on June 24, 2021, 07:43:19 AM

.. but don't try to earn money through gambling.

Don't tell that to those experienced gamblers who have made a fixed income thru gambling.

That's why there are professional gamblers. These people know how to manage their bankroll properly, plus their good gambling skills, that's why even the difficult part, which is turning their gambling activity into revenue, they made it possible.

For us casual gamblers, we can't be like that so that's where the part of only gamble the amount afford to lose should be applied.

I have to agree with that as I'm one of the believers that there are people who really make money in gambling consistently, there's a professional gambler and they called themselves professional for a reason. The reality is sad because majority of the gamblers loses, but it's not impossible to make money in gambling if you have the skills in doing it, so that's where the statement is coming that one could make money in gambling.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 24, 2021, 07:43:19 AM

.. but don't try to earn money through gambling.

Don't tell that to those experienced gamblers who have made a fixed income thru gambling.

That's why there are professional gamblers. These people know how to manage their bankroll properly, plus their good gambling skills, that's why even the difficult part, which is turning their gambling activity into revenue, they made it possible.

For us casual gamblers, we can't be like that so that's where the part of only gamble the amount afford to lose should be applied.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 21, 2021, 02:43:13 PM

~The easiest way to achieve this is by keeping detailed records of how much money you are spending, I know this may seem boring, and it is, but it is something that it has to be done, not only this will help you keep your gambling expenses under control but all your expenses as well, and soon enough you will surprise yourself about all the money you spend and that you were not even aware before where that money went, this can help you to reduce your expenses and eventually save more and invest in bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency that you may like.

It does seem boring, as you said it yourself. However, people are different and what's boring for some can be fun for others. If keeping the detailed records is what makes your gambling experience more entertaining, go ahead and do it then, but overall, if you can't say how much you lost to gambling, say, in the last moth, it means you haven't lost something significant, and therefore you are fine.

I will admit that I enjoy keeping records of my financial transactions so I have a very clear idea of where every single cent went, I know this is probably something that not many people will enjoy but as I said it has its uses, also while what you say about people not remembering how much money they have lost in gambling being a sign that you have not lost so much money is true, there are cases in which the opposite is true, like those that are addicted and cannot tell you how much they have lost over the years because they have lost so much money they have lost track of that amount.

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Quote from: lixer on June 24, 2021, 03:20:54 AM

All those unhealthy things happening around the gambling should be easy indications for a gambler is going irresponsible with respect to their gambling activities. Unfortunately when we are into gambling excitements (later same turns as addictions), we definitely fail to distinguish what are good and what are unhealthy.

That's right, unfortunately, most people who have been addicted to Gambling can't think of anything other than playing any gambling. Even by doing criminal things to get their money to do for the fulfillment of their desires for gambling. Debt or taking loans for gambling until all their assets are finally sold or confiscated. This often happens, both in gambling online and offline gambling.

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Keeping the records will be truly entertaining, but if there isn't big win then it'll be a big disappointment. Therefore it won't be enjoyable, gamblers look for the ways to recover the losses and maintain the statistics with profit. These days loss of $100 has turned to be an easy thing, but someone it is a month's wage.

I doubt that many gamblers will keep the records, especially if they playing gambling because of fun. If they want to recover the losses by watching the records, they will need longer and more money to recover and they don't know how long the time to recover it. If they can see how much money they already lost in gambling, they should think about how to use that money for other things instead of playing gambling. That will be useful for them because they do not lose that money at the gambling table.

Gambling is not a regular job where you can calculate the time needed for earning this or that amount. Chances are you are going to lose even more with time in gambling instead of recovering any losses. That's why if you like to gamble, because it's entertaining and relaxing for you, earn money some other way, and spend on gambling what you can afford, but don't try to earn money through gambling.

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Quote from: lixer on June 24, 2021, 03:20:54 AM

There must be tons of different definitions available for finding responsible gamblers because there needs to be multiple things a gambler must take care to achieve the level of responsibly gambling. Still I agree, not only how you are gambling will not define you as a responsible gambler but how effectively you are handling the consequence of gambling also should be considered to call you a responsible gambler.

How you managed your time and your money, if you do balance everything and you are not exceeding to what you can take to use,

being responsible accompanied by actions that you are doing inside the gambling venue. There is factor that even you are losing some amount but you move and act accordingly it still classified as responsible gaming, unlike with other players when suffer defeats they'll try to play back and see if they can recover right away.

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Quote from: hahay on June 22, 2021, 07:53:14 AM

for me, when a gambler still has good awareness and control then it is a responsible gambler. This case is not only about the money spent in gambling, but about the impact of the actions you take and when you can keep them well then of course, you are still a responsible gambler.

There must be tons of different definitions available for finding responsible gamblers because there needs to be multiple things a gambler must take care to achieve the level of responsibly gambling. Still I agree, not only how you are gambling will not define you as a responsible gambler but how effectively you are handling the consequence of gambling also should be considered to call you a responsible gambler.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 23, 2021, 07:47:34 PM

If we use money from a loan or selling important items at home, it is no longer healthy gambling. This will lead to losing everything.

All those unhealthy things happening around the gambling should be easy indications for a gambler is going irresponsible with respect to their gambling activities. Unfortunately when we are into gambling excitements (later same turns as addictions), we definitely fail to distinguish what are good and what are unhealthy.

I believe that not everyone who gambles can become a responsible gambler.
For example, I know many people who were going to make money on exchanges by reselling their currencies or cryptocurrencies. But there is a colossal difference between those who nevertheless became a professional trader, and those who just tried to trade, lost everything and did not care about this occupation. According to my observations, only 1 in 20-30 people can become a professional trader.
The same applies to when we define as a responsible player. Not everyone can become one. It depends on character, patience, stable psyche and, of course, on the analytical mindset.

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Quote from: hahay on June 22, 2021, 07:53:14 AM

for me, when a gambler still has good awareness and control then it is a responsible gambler. This case is not only about the money spent in gambling, but about the impact of the actions you take and when you can keep them well then of course, you are still a responsible gambler.

There must be tons of different definitions available for finding responsible gamblers because there needs to be multiple things a gambler must take care to achieve the level of responsibly gambling. Still I agree, not only how you are gambling will not define you as a responsible gambler but how effectively you are handling the consequence of gambling also should be considered to call you a responsible gambler.

Quote from: Rengga Jati on June 23, 2021, 07:47:34 PM

If we use money from a loan or selling important items at home, it is no longer healthy gambling. This will lead to losing everything.

All those unhealthy things happening around the gambling should be easy indications for a gambler is going irresponsible with respect to their gambling activities. Unfortunately when we are into gambling excitements (later same turns as addictions), we definitely fail to distinguish what are good and what are unhealthy.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 23, 2021, 05:08:30 PM

gambling is no longer 'healthy' if you owe it to the bank or sell valuables.

You are right, buddy. If we use money from a loan or selling important items at home, it is no longer healthy gambling. This will lead to losing everything.
It is a gambling addiction, in which somebody may not think about the consequence of what he is doing and losing more and more, but still hope to win something and get rich. But in fact, it is nothing. We don't get the money, but we lose many things in our life, including the family trust, worse.
That is why we must be responsible for gambling, whatever the conditions.

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Quote from: hahay on June 22, 2021, 07:53:14 AM

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Often times, negative experiences change us (make us smarter at best). Of course, it's good if a person understands the theory and never makes mistakes himself, but it seems to me that this rarely happens. But if a person made mistakes and corrected himself, then I am ready to consider him responsible.

being responsible for yourself.. there are still many gamblers who don't realize...

gambling is no longer 'healthy' if you owe it to the bank or sell valuables. when gambling tries with not your emergency money. if you lose or win then stop immediately, you can continue tomorrow of course with a fresher mind.

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Gambling is a strong habbit that is hard to stop.The spirit behind gambling is the spirit of frustration and depression after loosing.When one turns an addict,it is very difficult to leave it until it frustrates you. Gambling is a game to play when one has an extra cash to give out,not a means of finding money.Once you carry the mindset of getting huge money into gambling,be ready to sell all you have for surely,frustration and failure awaits you.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on June 22, 2021, 08:53:35 AM

Responsible gambling is, in my opinion, the willingness to accept a loss.

Gambling is not a business. Gambling is just entertainment. These are feelings of drive and excitement. These are very valuable emotions in the modern technological world. If you see online casino gaming as a way to make money, then you are in big trouble. Gambling is a business for their organizers.

For the players, these are costs. The goal is to get positive emotions.

But even you say many times that it's not a business, there are gamblers that have already considered it as their main business and source of income.

They've understood the circles of it and they can take risks that we can't.

And you probably also know the end point of the circle gambling, where the money will flow, we are just customers and gambling is an empire made with the goal of making us lose money for fun, we can't consider them as a mining pool because we can't become miners without their permission, they have the right to remove us when we become their hidden scourge. A good gambler shouldn't make them part of the circle, they need to get out of the circle at the earliest, staying in the circle only drives us crazy at the rate of losing money

Losing money is part of it.

But no matter what the point we're going to say that it's just for fun and we can lose money. There really are those people in real life that considers it as their source.

They're tough and even we stop them, they've been used to it as a source.

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Quote from: dmamigo on June 23, 2021, 12:37:24 PM

Responsible gambler for me is gambling with a line which we should not cross or you can say a limit which helps to prevent huge loss during gambling.

Yes, I agree with you. A Responsible gambler should have a staking limit. Many gambler loss huge amount of money because they don't have staking limit. And also, a responsible gambler should not take Gambling as a means of income.

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Responsible gambler for me is gambling with a line which we should not cross or you can say a limit which helps to prevent huge loss during gambling. I know it is tough for a few and some would say this is not possible but long-term gamblers play with caution. If somebody is here to just have fun and go all in what they have earned then being a responsible gambler does not count or matters.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on June 22, 2021, 04:15:40 AM

I never quite liked the hypocrisy behind so-called responsible gambling.
My reaction's always the same: first the state makes me an intriguing advertisement promising me staggering winnings, luxury vacations and the possibility of a nabob life and then you tell me to play responsibly? But what does it mean to play responsibly? And above all, is it really possible to do so?
Playing responsibly to me now means to consider the money played already lost. It helps a lot.

Playing gambling in a responsible way is possible, nothing is impossible, you just don't wanna do it that's why you're saying it is impossible, maybe because you already lost too much on it for you to say it like that.

And the advertisement itself is just to attract players, unless you don't know what advertisement or marketing really is, then you're the one to blame. What they include in their advertisement is true, however, there a very low chance that you'll have it just because you play in their casino or gambling site. Be wise, that's my advice.

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Quote from: Fredomago on June 22, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

But if you don't have that skills better to look to this venue as source of entertainment and not to focus and use it for source of income, it will limits the possible losses if you have good mindsets and control with your capital.

You're right, but look at that data. It is true that an expert can make gambling as an income. There is already evidence, even though the cases I mentioned above are included in the gambling category or not. Because I don't know for sure the rules in casino and World Series poker.

Yes, I know John Juanda is a world poker expert from Medan, North Sumatra who has repeatedly won titles at the World Series of Poker (WSOP) and I often see him on youtube because I love playing poker.
He is not only a poker expert but a very calm way of playing and no facial reactions that make it difficult for opponents to guess.
Gambling skills are needed if you want to make money and be able to control yourself, not just play for free without being based on gambling skills to be played which will lose everything.

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Quote from: Luzin on June 23, 2021, 08:57:45 AM

Quote from: Fredomago on June 22, 2021, 01:59:51 PM

But if you don't have that skills better to look to this venue as source of entertainment and not to focus and use it for source of income, it will limits the possible losses if you have good mindsets and control with your capital.

You're right, but look at that data. It is true that an expert can make gambling as an income. There is already evidence, even though the cases I mentioned above are included in the gambling category or not. Because I don't know for sure the rules in casino and World Series poker.

Though I'm also like you I don't have that knowledge on world series but th fact that poker is part of gambling the person you are mentioning managed to make this venue as good source of income.

Winning such huge amount, he can divert all his winning money to create businesses and let those money to work for him.

Such talent is not for everyone, and those who wish doing the same but mismanage everything ended up losing more
and regrets their actions.

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