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Quote from: Fredomago on June 22, 2021, 12:59:51 PM

But if you don't have that skills better to look to this venue as source of entertainment and not to focus and use it for source of income, it will limits the possible losses if you have good mindsets and control with your capital.

You're right, but look at that data. It is true that an expert can make gambling as an income. There is already evidence, even though the cases I mentioned above are included in the gambling category or not. Because I don't know for sure the rules in casino and World Series poker.

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Quote from: KennyR on June 22, 2021, 05:39:04 PM

Keeping the records will be truly entertaining, but if there isn't big win then it'll be a big disappointment. Therefore it won't be enjoyable, gamblers look for the ways to recover the losses and maintain the statistics with profit. These days loss of $100 has turned to be an easy thing, but someone it is a month's wage.

I doubt that many gamblers will keep the records, especially if they playing gambling because of fun. If they want to recover the losses by watching the records, they will need longer and more money to recover and they don't know how long the time to recover it. If they can see how much money they already lost in gambling, they should think about how to use that money for other things instead of playing gambling. That will be useful for them because they do not lose that money at the gambling table.

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Quote from: Betwrong on June 22, 2021, 04:13:22 AM

Quote from: Silberman on June 21, 2021, 01:43:13 PM

~The easiest way to achieve this is by keeping detailed records of how much money you are spending, I know this may seem boring, and it is, but it is something that it has to be done, not only this will help you keep your gambling expenses under control but all your expenses as well, and soon enough you will surprise yourself about all the money you spend and that you were not even aware before where that money went, this can help you to reduce your expenses and eventually save more and invest in bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency that you may like.

It does seem boring, as you said it yourself. However, people are different and what's boring for some can be fun for others. If keeping the detailed records is what makes your gambling experience more entertaining, go ahead and do it then, but overall, if you can't say how much you lost to gambling, say, in the last moth, it means you haven't lost something significant, and therefore you are fine.

Keeping the records will be truly entertaining, but if there isn't big win then it'll be a big disappointment. Therefore it won't be enjoyable, gamblers look for the ways to recover the losses and maintain the statistics with profit. These days loss of $100 has turned to be an easy thing, but someone it is a month's wage.

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Quote from: hahay on June 22, 2021, 06:53:14 AM

If you have experienced the worst thing in gambling until you end up doing something negative and/or criminal, then that's when you become an irresponsible gambler. Because for me, when a gambler still has good awareness and control then it is a responsible gambler. This case is not only about the money spent in gambling, but about the impact of the actions you take and when you can keep them well then of course, you are still a responsible gambler.

I believe half of what you said is definitely true while the other half is open for interpretation. The correct part is that if you are doing something against the rules or doing something criminal then it is definitely something wrong and you are an irresponsible gambler, there is no denying that. Way too many people try to abuse systems, I have seen people do all kinds of things from double spending tactics to trying to get their money back after lose it by saying it was hacked and many many other methods of course.

Long story short that part of your sentence is definitely true but the second part about money part not being the irresponsible part is open to debate. If I do not have too much money, and I end up using the money I pay rent for gambling and lose all that and can't pay my rent, then it is irresponsible gambling all the same to me.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on June 22, 2021, 07:53:35 AM

Responsible gambling is, in my opinion, the willingness to accept a loss.

Gambling is not a business. Gambling is just entertainment. These are feelings of drive and excitement. These are very valuable emotions in the modern technological world. If you see online casino gaming as a way to make money, then you are in big trouble. Gambling is a business for their organizers.

For the players, these are costs. The goal is to get positive emotions.

But even you say many times that it's not a business, there are gamblers that have already considered it as their main business and source of income.

They've understood the circles of it and they can take risks that we can't.

And you probably also know the end point of the circle gambling, where the money will flow, we are just customers and gambling is an empire made with the goal of making us lose money for fun, we can't consider them as a mining pool because we can't become miners without their permission, they have the right to remove us when we become their hidden scourge. A good gambler shouldn't make them part of the circle, they need to get out of the circle at the earliest, staying in the circle only drives us crazy at the rate of losing money

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Quote from: hahay on June 22, 2021, 06:53:14 AM

If you have experienced the worst thing in gambling until you end up doing something negative and/or criminal, then that's when you become an irresponsible gambler. Because for me, when a gambler still has good awareness and control then it is a responsible gambler. This case is not only about the money spent in gambling, but about the impact of the actions you take and when you can keep them well then of course, you are still a responsible gambler.

Often times, negative experiences change us (make us smarter at best). Of course, it's good if a person understands the theory and never makes mistakes himself, but it seems to me that this rarely happens. But if a person made mistakes and corrected himself, then I am ready to consider him responsible.

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Quote from: Luzin on June 22, 2021, 09:23:10 AM

Quote from: Smartprofit on June 22, 2021, 07:53:35 AM

Gambling is not a business. Gambling is just entertainment. These are feelings of drive and excitement. These are very valuable emotions in the modern technological world. If you see online casino gaming as a way to make money, then you are in big trouble.

If you know the name John Juanda, then you will know he is a poker professional from my country. He is famous for Winning IDR 28 Billion, His Money for Free Medical, this is reports in my local media, adan he became a World Poker Icon in 2014. He is a World Series of Poker (WSOP) champion for 5 years in a row. Whether this championship belongs to sports or gambling I don't know for sure. But I think poker is part of gambling.
But I don't really understand the rules of poker in the world of gambling but maybe there are similarities.

Case to case basis, you are saying one thing and the post above you is also pointing something. Both of you have good point to consider, if you see gambling as opportunity for quick access to earn money, then for sure you are in trouble in the long run. Unless you have that skills and talent where advantages are at your side.

But if you don't have that skills better to look to this venue as source of entertainment and not to focus and use it for source of income, it will limits the possible losses if you have good mindsets and control with your capital.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on June 22, 2021, 07:53:35 AM

Responsible gambling is, in my opinion, the willingness to accept a loss.

Gambling is not a business. Gambling is just entertainment. These are feelings of drive and excitement. These are very valuable emotions in the modern technological world. If you see online casino gaming as a way to make money, then you are in big trouble. Gambling is a business for their organizers.

For the players, these are costs. The goal is to get positive emotions.

But even you say many times that it's not a business, there are gamblers that have already considered it as their main business and source of income.

They've understood the circles of it and they can take risks that we can't.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on June 22, 2021, 07:53:35 AM

Gambling is not a business. Gambling is just entertainment. These are feelings of drive and excitement. These are very valuable emotions in the modern technological world. If you see online casino gaming as a way to make money, then you are in big trouble.

If you know the name John Juanda, then you will know he is a poker professional from my country. He is famous for Winning IDR 28 Billion, His Money for Free Medical, this is reports in my local media, adan he became a World Poker Icon in 2014. He is a World Series of Poker (WSOP) champion for 5 years in a row. Whether this championship belongs to sports or gambling I don't know for sure. But I think poker is part of gambling.
But I don't really understand the rules of poker in the world of gambling but maybe there are similarities.

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Quote from: hahay on June 22, 2021, 06:53:14 AM

Quote from: Karartma1 on June 22, 2021, 03:15:40 AM

I never quite liked the hypocrisy behind so-called responsible gambling.
My reaction's always the same: first the state makes me an intriguing advertisement promising me staggering winnings, luxury vacations and the possibility of a nabob life and then you tell me to play responsibly? But what does it mean to play responsibly? And above all, is it really possible to do so?
Playing responsibly to me now means to consider the money played already lost. It helps a lot.

If you have experienced the worst thing in gambling until you end up doing something negative and/or criminal, then that's when you become an irresponsible gambler. Because for me, when a gambler still has good awareness and control then it is a responsible gambler. This case is not only about the money spent in gambling, but about the impact of the actions you take and when you can keep them well then of course, you are still a responsible gambler.

Responsible gambling is, in my opinion, the willingness to accept a loss.

Gambling is not a business. Gambling is just entertainment. These are feelings of drive and excitement. These are very valuable emotions in the modern technological world. If you see online casino gaming as a way to make money, then you are in big trouble. Gambling is a business for their organizers.

For the players, these are costs. The goal is to get positive emotions.

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Quote from: Karartma1 on June 22, 2021, 03:15:40 AM

I never quite liked the hypocrisy behind so-called responsible gambling.
My reaction's always the same: first the state makes me an intriguing advertisement promising me staggering winnings, luxury vacations and the possibility of a nabob life and then you tell me to play responsibly? But what does it mean to play responsibly? And above all, is it really possible to do so?
Playing responsibly to me now means to consider the money played already lost. It helps a lot.

If you have experienced the worst thing in gambling until you end up doing something negative and/or criminal, then that's when you become an irresponsible gambler. Because for me, when a gambler still has good awareness and control then it is a responsible gambler. This case is not only about the money spent in gambling, but about the impact of the actions you take and when you can keep them well then of course, you are still a responsible gambler.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 21, 2021, 01:43:13 PM

~The easiest way to achieve this is by keeping detailed records of how much money you are spending, I know this may seem boring, and it is, but it is something that it has to be done, not only this will help you keep your gambling expenses under control but all your expenses as well, and soon enough you will surprise yourself about all the money you spend and that you were not even aware before where that money went, this can help you to reduce your expenses and eventually save more and invest in bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency that you may like.

It does seem boring, as you said it yourself. However, people are different and what's boring for some can be fun for others. If keeping the detailed records is what makes your gambling experience more entertaining, go ahead and do it then, but overall, if you can't say how much you lost to gambling, say, in the last moth, it means you haven't lost something significant, and therefore you are fine.

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I never quite liked the hypocrisy behind so-called responsible gambling.
My reaction's always the same: first the state makes me an intriguing advertisement promising me staggering winnings, luxury vacations and the possibility of a nabob life and then you tell me to play responsibly? But what does it mean to play responsibly? And above all, is it really possible to do so?
Playing responsibly to me now means to consider the money played already lost. It helps a lot.

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Quote from: kawetsriyanto on June 18, 2021, 04:10:06 PM

If you have good self-control and awareness, you won't hope too much in gambling, never think to be rich overnight by gambling.

Thats true, but the problem for greedy gamblers are they dont think too much about the consequences if they let themselves uncontrolled.
We know if you're happen to be lucky, earning huge is possible but unfortunately its not usually the case. I bet many of us cant count their losses compared to the times they win and thats the reality.

Hence before trying to gamble, know your limitation and have self discipline. Gambling is entertaining and addicting especially if you experience how to win but its not a reason to lose yourself if you know your priorities and has set a limit on when to stop.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 21, 2021, 01:43:13 PM

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Quote from: The Wasp on June 18, 2021, 05:22:05 AM

My rule of thumb: Think about your strategy every 2 minutes when you play, you will be reducing your risk but you will also have to play smart.

Again, making mistakes is human, it's what we do that makes us. By limiting your mistakes, you will increase your odds of winning, this means that you have to play a sound game with realistic probabilities that make sense. Be honest with yourself about your game knowledge and play every single hand with the knowledge that you have of the game.

You can use that strategy 2 minutes, but you should limit how long the total hours you playing gambling. Otherwise, you will use a long time gambling, making you feel that playing gambling is exciting once you feel that, you can forget about limiting your time and money. The result will be losing your money because many people already get that experience. Being honest is a hard thing that we can do but that is worth doing.

Without certain limitations you'll find yourself regretting, thinking that if only you stop
when you still have that small earnings is far better than losing an entire bankroll.

It's all on you and how will you manage working with your time and your money, if you are
good in dealing with that the chance is good for you to avoid making big mistakes and lose more money.

Keep the balance and work wisely with your money.

I prefer to use some money to limit the amount and then decide how long I will play. When we can do that and always manage the money that we use in every bet, I think we can stick to our plan and limit losing money.

I agree that keeping the balance and gamble wisely with your money will be the key to enjoying gambling games and preventing the loss of money.

The easiest way to achieve this is by keeping detailed records of how much money you are spending, I know this may seem boring, and it is, but it is something that it has to be done, not only this will help you keep your gambling expenses under control but all your expenses as well, and soon enough you will surprise yourself about all the money you spend and that you were not even aware before where that money went, this can help you to reduce your expenses and eventually save more and invest in bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency that you may like.

It could be a solution for you knowing how much money you are spending, but I doubt that many gamblers will do that as it will not be easy to do. We need to have the discipline to make detailed records on that thing and sometimes, we can forget to write a new record for that day. The thing that can make us forget can be if we win a lot of money, we will celebrate with others, making us forget. But with that records, I am sure we will surprise and even shock knowing the money that we already spent on gambling, and if we can still think, we may think that it is time for us to limit or even stop playing gambling. That is only if we can think more about spending our time and money on gambling.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 20, 2021, 09:52:22 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on June 20, 2021, 09:37:34 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 20, 2021, 09:32:50 PM

Quote from: The Wasp on June 18, 2021, 05:22:05 AM

My rule of thumb: Think about your strategy every 2 minutes when you play, you will be reducing your risk but you will also have to play smart.

Again, making mistakes is human, it's what we do that makes us. By limiting your mistakes, you will increase your odds of winning, this means that you have to play a sound game with realistic probabilities that make sense. Be honest with yourself about your game knowledge and play every single hand with the knowledge that you have of the game.

You can use that strategy 2 minutes, but you should limit how long the total hours you playing gambling. Otherwise, you will use a long time gambling, making you feel that playing gambling is exciting once you feel that, you can forget about limiting your time and money. The result will be losing your money because many people already get that experience. Being honest is a hard thing that we can do but that is worth doing.

Without certain limitations you'll find yourself regretting, thinking that if only you stop
when you still have that small earnings is far better than losing an entire bankroll.

It's all on you and how will you manage working with your time and your money, if you are
good in dealing with that the chance is good for you to avoid making big mistakes and lose more money.

Keep the balance and work wisely with your money.

I prefer to use some money to limit the amount and then decide how long I will play. When we can do that and always manage the money that we use in every bet, I think we can stick to our plan and limit losing money.

I agree that keeping the balance and gamble wisely with your money will be the key to enjoying gambling games and preventing the loss of money.

The easiest way to achieve this is by keeping detailed records of how much money you are spending, I know this may seem boring, and it is, but it is something that it has to be done, not only this will help you keep your gambling expenses under control but all your expenses as well, and soon enough you will surprise yourself about all the money you spend and that you were not even aware before where that money went, this can help you to reduce your expenses and eventually save more and invest in bitcoin or whatever cryptocurrency that you may like.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on June 20, 2021, 09:37:34 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 20, 2021, 09:32:50 PM

Quote from: The Wasp on June 18, 2021, 05:22:05 AM

My rule of thumb: Think about your strategy every 2 minutes when you play, you will be reducing your risk but you will also have to play smart.

Again, making mistakes is human, it's what we do that makes us. By limiting your mistakes, you will increase your odds of winning, this means that you have to play a sound game with realistic probabilities that make sense. Be honest with yourself about your game knowledge and play every single hand with the knowledge that you have of the game.

You can use that strategy 2 minutes, but you should limit how long the total hours you playing gambling. Otherwise, you will use a long time gambling, making you feel that playing gambling is exciting once you feel that, you can forget about limiting your time and money. The result will be losing your money because many people already get that experience. Being honest is a hard thing that we can do but that is worth doing.

Without certain limitations you'll find yourself regretting, thinking that if only you stop
when you still have that small earnings is far better than losing an entire bankroll.

It's all on you and how will you manage working with your time and your money, if you are
good in dealing with that the chance is good for you to avoid making big mistakes and lose more money.

Keep the balance and work wisely with your money.

I prefer to use some money to limit the amount and then decide how long I will play. When we can do that and always manage the money that we use in every bet, I think we can stick to our plan and limit losing money.

I agree that keeping the balance and gamble wisely with your money will be the key to enjoying gambling games and preventing the loss of money.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 20, 2021, 09:32:50 PM

Quote from: The Wasp on June 18, 2021, 05:22:05 AM

My rule of thumb: Think about your strategy every 2 minutes when you play, you will be reducing your risk but you will also have to play smart.

Again, making mistakes is human, it's what we do that makes us. By limiting your mistakes, you will increase your odds of winning, this means that you have to play a sound game with realistic probabilities that make sense. Be honest with yourself about your game knowledge and play every single hand with the knowledge that you have of the game.

You can use that strategy 2 minutes, but you should limit how long the total hours you playing gambling. Otherwise, you will use a long time gambling, making you feel that playing gambling is exciting once you feel that, you can forget about limiting your time and money. The result will be losing your money because many people already get that experience. Being honest is a hard thing that we can do but that is worth doing.

Without certain limitations you'll find yourself regretting, thinking that if only you stop
when you still have that small earnings is far better than losing an entire bankroll.

It's all on you and how will you manage working with your time and your money, if you are
good in dealing with that the chance is good for you to avoid making big mistakes and lose more money.

Keep the balance and work wisely with your money.

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Quote from: The Wasp on June 18, 2021, 05:22:05 AM

My rule of thumb: Think about your strategy every 2 minutes when you play, you will be reducing your risk but you will also have to play smart.

Again, making mistakes is human, it's what we do that makes us. By limiting your mistakes, you will increase your odds of winning, this means that you have to play a sound game with realistic probabilities that make sense. Be honest with yourself about your game knowledge and play every single hand with the knowledge that you have of the game.

You can use that strategy 2 minutes, but you should limit how long the total hours you playing gambling. Otherwise, you will use a long time gambling, making you feel that playing gambling is exciting once you feel that, you can forget about limiting your time and money. The result will be losing your money because many people already get that experience. Being honest is a hard thing that we can do but that is worth doing.

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Quote from: Mahanton on June 17, 2021, 06:55:31 PM

Dont expect and Dont hope too much that you would become rich with gambling because having these kind of motives in mind will
really just mold you into an addicted person this is why having self control and self awareness on how gambling works should really be realized.

Indeed. If you have good self-control and awareness, you won't hope too much in gambling, never think to be rich overnight by gambling. With good self-control, you must limit your funds and time for gambling, so you don't rely on gambling and can think normally once you gamble. Of course, this also can help you to avoid addiction. If many gamblers can do it, we may decrease the number of addiction cases. Even if it cannot be very significant, but I am sure it will be effective to lower the addiction cases gradually.

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