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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

When I first started gambling, I won some significant amount of money which further motivated me to continue gambling. Like any other gambler, later on I found myself losing more money than ever. Which is why I have always thought about whether beginner’s luck was real. To me, it didn’t make sense that the machine or the game knows if the player is a beginner so there’s no such thing as a beginner winning more than an experienced gambler.

This is like initiations to the gambling world because most gamblers today who fully developed themselves to gambling doesn't only really want to continue gambling but just want to have view of how it works to decides whether to continue or not, but immediately they just started and win an attractable amount you would see them developed serious passion and love to start gambling on a regular basis.
Perhaps, this doesn't regularly occurs at all time because some people who started gambling has never won for their life since they started gambling and i have friend like that who started gambling for long without winning.

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Quote from: dansus021 on December 19, 2024, 10:09:41 AM

I think i replied topic with beginners luck in it, well like i was said in other thread that beginner luck is dangerous and i really meant it.

My gamble journey or my futures trade journey comes when i had my first win and i cant stop till now tho it getting better right now and maybe i can control my emotion but begginer luck it is really danger

Beginner's luck is indeed very dangerous I like it, what you say is true because it is the beginning of addiction and continues to dive into gambling, with the first victory will make us continue to explore gambling trying various kinds of games in it and can make us addicted.
Thankfully you can control yourself a lot better today, there are a lot of people who have not been able to get out and control themselves to stay responsible in gambling.

I would like to say that the first win or luck especially in a very large amount will be the beginning of losing more money in the following days.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 19, 2024, 10:35:23 AM

For the allocation algorithm there is no difference who is gambling - a beginner or an experienced gambler. Any gambler wins from time to time.

I do not understand this at all. The way you posted it, it is like gambling is an easy means of making money for both beginners and experienced gamblers. But that is it the case because most gamblers are losing. But gamblers should not be bothered about the losses if they are gambling the way it should be. Gamblers do not win from time to time.

I'm not sure if I'm correct but I guess what madnessteat is trying to explain is that regardless of whether you're new or a beginner in that casino, if you're going to win, you'll win; if you're going to lose, you'll lose. There's no such thing as beginner's luck.

For me beginner luck is a casino trap . You know it encouraging gamblers to keep playing, only for them to eventually lose more as they continue gambling.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

But now that I thought about it, I realized that the beginner’s luck had more to do with the player itself than outside factors. As a beginner, you have no expectations. You do not know what’s possible. What can you win, what can you lose. There is no pressure of playing which is why you are just able to win. But a few rounds after that, you are already expecting to win. There is the need to perform better and get more money than the previous round. And that is the explanation for a beginner’s luck. It’s just our mindset.

This right changed everything I initially want to reply to this thread. As someone who still remembers his first win I don’t think I was too lucky at the start of my gambling journey.

When I started gambling I had no experience, so I wasn’t really bothered about strategy or anything similar and because of that I didn’t really take note of my loses and my wins and the thought of winning or losing wasn’t too intense and as such didn’t affect the way I approached gambling but now everything is different before going into a session I now have to give myself a good reason for doing it.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 19, 2024, 10:35:23 AM

For the allocation algorithm there is no difference who is gambling - a beginner or an experienced gambler. Any gambler wins from time to time.

I do not understand this at all. The way you posted it, it is like gambling is an easy means of making money for both beginners and experienced gamblers. But that is it the case because most gamblers are losing. But gamblers should not be bothered about the losses if they are gambling the way it should be. Gamblers do not win from time to time.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on December 19, 2024, 10:16:27 AM

We are rushing, add that up to becoming an experienced gambler. Because we already saw the multi-win when we were a beginner which we know is just a strategy to make a gambler come back. I believe in beginner's luck but it will always end up the same as the veterans of gambling. Losing.
Now, even if we know all of that and we have an idea of what will come up next, why do we still gamble? I think the urge that was planted in us cannot just be deleted, we will always try to come back and test our luck but the difference is that the impatience is succumbing to us and we try to speed up everything.

For the allocation algorithm there is no difference who is gambling - a beginner or an experienced gambler. Any gambler wins from time to time.

The point is that when a person gets some pleasant experience for the first time it is remembered forever. I'm sure everyone here perfectly remembers his first date, the first money earned. Many would like to experience these feelings again. The same thing happens in gambling.

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Indeed, many novice players feel that when they first play online casinos they will definitely win, but over time they often experience defeat. Because this is a strategy for beginners to feel happy which makes them able to play again with the motivation to win the game again which is actually the beginning that causes them to accept continuous defeat, but in my opinion this happens randomly because not all beginners get that experience.

And logically if this really happens to every beginner, I'm sure all gamblers will create new accounts and look for new sites every day just to get that initial win, so all of that is not necessarily and not all beginners experience the same thing. Makes sense?

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Who doesn't want to get lucky in every gambling session they run, especially for beginners who have just entered the world of gambling and at that time they get unexpected luck by getting a big jackpot for example, they are very happy of course.
However, on the other hand for beginners, they must still have minimal bad experiences in it so that for beginners it is easy for them to be interested again and again because they feel they are smart in running the casino they choose so that by controlling their control it is not necessarily optimal they will be more tempted and what happens in the end beginners like this will actually become addicted to it which is very dangerous in their lives.
Therefore, as a beginner, you must always be careful in every action and need awareness and a good understanding of real gambling.

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And most people who want to come back to play are young people who in their first impression of gambling get a win in the first time, as if they feel confident that he will get lucky and it happens to many people including me.

This sometimes makes me think that maybe the machine recognizes that we are novice players because almost in some casinos when I create a new account 4 out of 6 casinos that enter get the luck of victory in the first time playing at the casino, making me think like that about how the machine recognizes novice and old players.

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We are rushing, add that up to becoming an experienced gambler. Because we already saw the multi-win when we were a beginner which we know is just a strategy to make a gambler come back. I believe in beginner's luck but it will always end up the same as the veterans of gambling. Losing.
Now, even if we know all of that and we have an idea of what will come up next, why do we still gamble? I think the urge that was planted in us cannot just be deleted, we will always try to come back and test our luck but the difference is that the impatience is succumbing to us and we try to speed up everything.

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I think i replied topic with beginners luck in it, well like i was said in other thread that beginner luck is dangerous and i really meant it.

My gamble journey or my futures trade journey comes when i had my first win and i cant stop till now tho it getting better right now and maybe i can control my emotion but begginer luck it is really danger

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

When I first started gambling, I won some significant amount of money which further motivated me to continue gambling. Like any other gambler, later on I found myself losing more money than ever. Which is why I have always thought about whether beginner’s luck was real. To me, it didn’t make sense that the machine or the game knows if the player is a beginner so there’s no such thing as a beginner winning more than an experienced gambler.

But now that I thought about it, I realized that the beginner’s luck had more to do with the player itself than outside factors. As a beginner, you have no expectations. You do not know what’s possible. What can you win, what can you lose. There is no pressure of playing which is why you are just able to win. But a few rounds after that, you are already expecting to win. There is the need to perform better and get more money than the previous round. And that is the explanation for a beginner’s luck. It’s just our mindset.

You are right about what you mentioned, most of the first timer players in the casino who suddenly win unexpectedly are the ones who seem to be the bait of the casino platforms so that they can inject into the minds of the first timer players that it is easy to win at the gambling casino.

This is one of the ways that casino owners make newbies feel until it is ingrained in the minds of the newbies that it is easy to get money at the casino gambling were in the end they do not realize that they are addicted to playing gambling until one day they realize that they have an addiction to playing gambling.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 19, 2024, 09:17:07 AM

Quote from: Charles-Tim on December 19, 2024, 05:43:29 AM

I know someone that gambled for the first time that lost the game immediately and he told me he is no more gambling again.

In my case, when I started betting on sports, I only lost for 2 weeks. In every game I bet on, I lost. My bad luck was so bad that I even lost in games with odds of 1.10. I didn't know how to analyze games. I just bet based on the teams I knew. The funny thing is that after two weeks of losing, I was lucky enough to win and then I stopped playing for a long time. Because I realized that I didn't have enough knowledge to continue with sports betting and I was very tired of losing consecutively for 2 weeks.

It usually happens that we bet on the team we know or the one that is popular with most people. Sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, that is just how it goes. This kind of strategy is not bad. Besides, not every player or team we know can win every game, so losing is normal.
It is quite difficult if we are not really into sports and still decide to bet on it. It is better to choose something we are comfortable with and have enough knowledge about rather than forcing ourselves into something that feels like we punished ourselves.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

When I first started gambling, I won some significant amount of money which further motivated me to continue gambling. Like any other gambler, later on I found myself losing more money than ever. Which is why I have always thought about whether beginner’s luck was real. To me, it didn’t make sense that the machine or the game knows if the player is a beginner so there’s no such thing as a beginner winning more than an experienced gambler.

But now that I thought about it, I realized that the beginner’s luck had more to do with the player itself than outside factors. As a beginner, you have no expectations. You do not know what’s possible. What can you win, what can you lose. There is no pressure of playing which is why you are just able to win. But a few rounds after that, you are already expecting to win. There is the need to perform better and get more money than the previous round. And that is the explanation for a beginner’s luck. It’s just our mindset.

That may be right in a way. As beginners, we are not really used to the thrill of winning a bet.
As we keep gambling we tend to ignore the little bets we win and are more focused on winning big.
May be this is why we think we used to win more when we started to gamble.
On the other hand, that won't be the case for all casino sites. Some casino sites lure you into playing more by intentionally making you win more in the beginning.

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You have good point here and I have to agree with it that it is just because newbies has low expectation or even without expectation to win significant amount on their first day of gambling, that's why most of them feel that they have beginner's luck and share it to others.
When some gamblers start to think like that and many people hear the story, the believe of beginner's luck started to be thought as real think while actually it is not.
Because of this believe, there are even many gamblers who started to create an account in any casino they found because they think that they will get big win with a new account in a new casino.
All in all, it can be said as gambler's fallacy IMO.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on December 19, 2024, 05:16:25 AM

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It's not real lmao. It's just that you have zero reference point and that's why you think it's real. It's not like people who lose immediately share that they, well, lost no? That'd be dumb. So what's left? People who got lucky and share that they won, saying that "beginners luck is real" bs. It's just a bias for those outside of the concerned parties (people who are beginners and gambled).

And the pressure doesn't do jack with winning/losing. It's more so in spending instead. Even if you gave me the pressure of the entire world I still wouldn't be able to win a dice game 100% of the time. I will however spend more money than I can though.

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The explanation for beginner's luck is that in short term gambling, the house edge doesn't have a big impact. It's just as the gambler goes further on his bets that house edge starts becoming a real threat to turn profits into losses. The formula is simple: the more you play, more you lose, as you don't have equal winning chances compared to the casino. They always have a slight advantage over gamblers, which is harmless on short run, but determining on long term.

Mindset isn't a determining factor. You can start playing with a responsible, attentive and calm mindset, but it's not going to have any impact over your bets' outcomes. On the other hand, a gambler with a wrong mindset, totally impulsive, greedy and willing to chase losses may face temporary profit, despite his conduct.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 19, 2024, 09:17:07 AM

Because I realized that I didn't have enough knowledge to continue with sports betting and I was very tired of losing consecutively for 2 weeks.

The best way to avoid getting tired of it is to set up a bankroll designed for the long term. It’s normal in any form of gambling even sports betting, to go through bad weeks, or even bad months. But with a well-established bankroll, we can ride out those tough stretches. And if we’re truly dedicated to improving our skills in sports betting, who knows, maybe we can become profitable in the long run. It’s not impossible, though certainly not easy.

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Quote from: Charles-Tim on December 19, 2024, 05:43:29 AM

I know someone that gambled for the first time that lost the game immediately and he told me he is no more gambling again.

In my case, when I started betting on sports, I only lost for 2 weeks. In every game I bet on, I lost. My bad luck was so bad that I even lost in games with odds of 1.10. I didn't know how to analyze games. I just bet based on the teams I knew. The funny thing is that after two weeks of losing, I was lucky enough to win and then I stopped playing for a long time. Because I realized that I didn't have enough knowledge to continue with sports betting and I was very tired of losing consecutively for 2 weeks.

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I never believed in it. It's superstition. The same is true for winning streaks and people believing they can't lose. The opposite is also true for losing streaks. It's just luck, action, and reaction if your win depends on someone else's move. The chances are the same that you will win on your first ever bet or the last one you decide to make in your life.

I remember registering on a crypto casino a few years ago and depositing some money to get a welcome bonus. I won a low-wager jackpot on my second spin but lost it all while wagering through the 50x wagering requirements.

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