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Quote from: Oilacris on March 30, 2021, 04:46:14 PM

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2021, 05:53:55 PM

Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly, this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.

Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.

Would really be hard to play up if you do really look for some gesture hints then that would really be a pain in the ass when you cant see anything something on your opponent.

with this kind of card games where these kind of movements could neither be helpful on your part if its against on your opponent but also a disadvantage if you are the one who do
give out some hints into your opponent too.

For now where we cant still fully access on physical gambling sites then these gesture thing isnt really that relevant on online gambling.

Wearing masks during a game could create new hints and giving the new environment of the table (with barriers and other protective materials on the table) this could potentially use by those gamblers as a bluff. I don't know what kind of new tricks and bluff will the gamblers use but it will be different especially on big pot poker tables. As of now, there aren't many things that a gambler can do about his environment, They will certainly going to adjust what the new normal is.

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Quote from: South Park on March 30, 2021, 01:54:36 PM

Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2021, 05:53:55 PM

Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly, this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.

Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.

imo there'll still be a difference on playing online and irl because even if you can't see the whole face because of a mask or glasses there are still many other micro-movements that can be observed, you know? like the velocity of hands, the dillatation of eyes (if they have no glasses), how they look, how they speak, how they breath... being in the physical presence of someone totally changes the game.

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Quote from: South Park on March 30, 2021, 01:54:36 PM

Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2021, 05:53:55 PM

Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly, this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.

Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.

Would really be hard to play up if you do really look for some gesture hints then that would really be a pain in the ass when you cant see anything something on your opponent.

with this kind of card games where these kind of movements could neither be helpful on your part if its against on your opponent but also a disadvantage if you are the one who do
give out some hints into your opponent too.

For now where we cant still fully access on physical gambling sites then these gesture thing isnt really that relevant on online gambling.

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I like poker tournaments with multiple players - your table gets changed about 2-3 times per game and you end up with new people, who know nothing about your techniques. However, there's the opposite side of the coin. Whenever you crack someone and finally get how to win with them - everything changes and you need to start over.

Also, it won't work if you keep playing on the same website, because the players are mostly the same and eventually everyone will know everyone...

Even if you constantly change your game techniques, still there are some basic qualities you possess and it is basically inevitable for people to learn how to read you if you play very often.

Sometimes when there is an important move and a lot is at stake I just ask a random person (a friend, family member, or whoever is near) to make the move for me, because I know that my behavior will be predictable no matter how hard I try. That helped me to win big a couple of times.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2021, 05:53:55 PM

Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly, this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.

Many poker players in order to avoid to have the reactions to be read by their opponents use a hat and even glasses and I have no doubts that when the pandemic is finally over and casinos can open the doors again many poker players are still going to use respirators or surgical masks to hide an even larger portion of their face, this may seem to be problematic but taking into account that when you play online you already cannot see what your opponent is doing then I have the tendency to believe that playing poker live will slowly morph into something very similar to what we see online already.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2021, 05:53:55 PM

Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly, this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.

Maybe they can help but that was different when you are in the actual scenario. Because the truth is that, it is really hard to follow into others (as what is written in the books and said in tuts). We can no longer remember those strategies especially when we are fully affected by our emotions but to project what we feel inside like changing our gestures and the way we smile.

This do mostly talks with emotion handling and if you do fail to do so then most of strategies that we are tending to follow or make will likely to fail due to this factor.
Being unpredictable is one of the most important thing when you do play with card games like poker and others where gestures and emotion show off would really be
a thing that can either be useful on your part at the same time it could really be a cause for yourself to be easily read up by your opponents.
Experience is one of the thing will really wipe these kind of flaws on oneself into his own gambling activities.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on March 26, 2021, 05:53:55 PM

Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly, this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.

Maybe they can help but that was different when you are in the actual scenario. Because the truth is that, it is really hard to follow into others (as what is written in the books and said in tuts). We can no longer remember those strategies especially when we are fully affected by our emotions but to project what we feel inside like changing our gestures and the way we smile.

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Many tutorials can be learned so that it is difficult to predict when playing poker, There are so many articles scattered on the internet to learn tricks
so that our opponents have trouble reading our movements. Usually in poker games we see the opponent's gesture whether he gets a good card or not.
But apparently there are ways to make our gestures not easy to read, we sometimes have to do things that make the opponent a little depressed
and do the wrong strategy. Like pretending to smile a little when you get a bad card or putting on a nervous face when you get a good card. There are
still many things we can do so that our opponents can predict our movements incorrectly, this is one of the things that makes the game of
poker interesting.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 19, 2021, 06:37:45 PM

Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

Mostly, if people don't want to be easy to read they doing a lot of stupid moves, and finally lost. For example they trying to bluff and they don't know hot to bluff (for example limp on preflop and check on flop and then trying to bluff on turn and river) or doing moves out of their main strategy.

There is only way to not to do stupid moves and to not to be predictable is have a wide range of hands with which you're playing. Try not to limp too much also. This is fish move, so if players on table will know that you're fish, your moves will be more predictable.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 19, 2021, 06:37:45 PM

Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

It depends, a good way to bluff is by using the cards themselves, if you want to become unpredictable with your bluffs you could choose a few cards at random before you play and if that is the first card that appears on your hand then you bluff no matter what, obviously some people will catch you when you bluff but that is the intention, the next time you raise with your good hand the rest of the table will not believe you and that is when you can get a lot of value out of your hand.

That's a good strategy that most of the time works, just like playing chess sending your officials being eaten for the best value attacks,.

You'll find yourself very buyable once you sell this strategy, losing your first bluff means that other gamblers inside the table will watch you out and unpredictedly try to catch you.

Once you have a good cards in hand surely you'll be paid decent with your next steps.

I didn't know that, I thought a failed bluff would not do good for you but with this strategy, it looks like you are making it as a bait so next time you can go all in and they call it, damn, that is so smart.

Poker is a game of information, you can use selective revelations about your strategy to soften up your opponent to believe you will do something when in fact you are doing the exact opposite, once your bluff has failed you need to make use of it somehow and this is the perfect way to do it, that way if during the next few hands you receive something good you can play your hand similarly and the rest of the table will think that you are in fact bluffing again since you are repeating the same pattern only to find out this is not the case, but at that point it will be too late for them.

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Quote from: maydna on March 23, 2021, 11:32:52 PM

when we play on an online casino, we don't try to use any trick to deceive the other player because they don't know if we have a good card or a bad card.

Thinking of poker... it's certainly true that playing online enables you to hide emotions etc much more easily, but it's still possible to read people online based on their behaviour in previous hands. Persistent bluffers can be easy to spot, as can overly cautious players who only ever raise with a great hand. The longer a game goes on, the more obvious patterns of play emerge.

Playing unpredictably is a solid strategy, because if you are predictable, whether in online games or not, you'll lose.

If we always change our playing or habit, and we are moving from one table to the other table, that might increase our chance to win, especially if we have skills in poker. Perhaps, we can stay at one table for some rounds, let say for 3 or so rounds, and then move to the other table.

Perhaps, that can give us more chances to win because we can meet many players from different tables, and we can learn how they play. But I admitted that playing unpredictably is a good strategy, as you say, because we can hide our emotions and card, and that can help us to bluff the other player. But I do not know that since I am not a pro poker player or do not too often play poker games.

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Quote from: Fredomago on March 24, 2021, 07:43:41 AM

Playing online is indeed the best choice when you wanted to play without any issue with your emotions, no one can see you, and you can easily execute your plan without worrying that your opponents are watching you and reading each moves that you call.

We should also be careful when playing online to not be too predictable. Emotions are a big deal in online and offline gambling. For example, going all in too much can be a sign of over bluffing or just being on tilt. So when I see a short stack player going all on out of position I am more inclined to call than if he has a large stack.

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Quote from: MCobian on March 23, 2021, 08:18:10 PM

Gambling at a casino, we really have to control our emotions, not to be easily read by our opponents. And it can be trained and there are many
tutorials on YouTube that we can learn. Therefore if you rarely socialize and can't control your emotions when playing gambling, especially when
playing poker which requires interaction with your opponent. It's better to just play online where your opponent can't read your gesture. Some
gamblers cannot hide their emotions when playing gambling and it is used by your opponents to predict your movements. So the way to be able
to bluffing our opponents and read your opponent's gestures, it takes practice and is not obtained instantly.

Playing online is indeed the best choice when you wanted to play without any issue with your emotions, no one can see you, and you can easily execute your plan without worrying that your opponents are watching you and reading each moves that you call.

I have always preferred online casinos over physical casinos. Because when I gamble with friends, when I lose a bet, I get desperate to win money. I also gamble more to protect my self-esteem, and lose a lot more money. But when I gamble online, I can easily control myself even if I lose the bet.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 19, 2021, 06:37:45 PM

Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

If you don't want to get caught play online, so even if you are laughing or grinning they will not know that, if you want to do it live and face to face you have to practice making a poker face, that is with no emotion at all, it's not easy because you will have to concentrate concealing your emotion, it can be done but it will take time, maybe a month or two.

Establishing your emotions during live games is difficult, it's continuous practice and you have to focus each time you play. There are good gamblers who hid what inside them, characteristics that become an advantage from each gambler who plays this type of strategy games..

Quote from: MCobian on March 23, 2021, 08:18:10 PM

Gambling at a casino, we really have to control our emotions, not to be easily read by our opponents. And it can be trained and there are many
tutorials on YouTube that we can learn. Therefore if you rarely socialize and can't control your emotions when playing gambling, especially when
playing poker which requires interaction with your opponent. It's better to just play online where your opponent can't read your gesture. Some
gamblers cannot hide their emotions when playing gambling and it is used by your opponents to predict your movements. So the way to be able
to bluffing our opponents and read your opponent's gestures, it takes practice and is not obtained instantly.

Playing online is indeed the best choice when you wanted to play without any issue with your emotions, no one can see you, and you can easily execute your plan without worrying that your opponents are watching you and reading each moves that you call.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 19, 2021, 06:37:45 PM

Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

If you don't want to get caught play online, so even if you are laughing or grinning they will not know that, if you want to do it live and face to face you have to practice making a poker face, that is with no emotion at all, it's not easy because you will have to concentrate concealing your emotion, it can be done but it will take time, maybe a month or two.

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Quote from: maydna on March 23, 2021, 11:32:52 PM

when we play on an online casino, we don't try to use any trick to deceive the other player because they don't know if we have a good card or a bad card.

Thinking of poker... it's certainly true that playing online enables you to hide emotions etc much more easily, but it's still possible to read people online based on their behaviour in previous hands. Persistent bluffers can be easy to spot, as can overly cautious players who only ever raise with a great hand. The longer a game goes on, the more obvious patterns of play emerge.

Playing unpredictably is a solid strategy, because if you are predictable, whether in online games or not, you'll lose.

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Hiding your true emotion is your great weapon when it comes to poker especially if you’re playing on a casino, and I think it takes a lot of practice for you to be able to do this and once you master this one, then you can be a good poker using your own strategy.

Well, at this time going to physical casinos is limited if not allowed. And that means that you cannot apply this strategy or you can have your own poker table at your house.

Hiding emotion can be done easy as if you do not care whatever your card is. You don't have to master it but it is much better of doing it naturally.

Yes, that is right. Perhaps, we can invite our closest friends around our neighborhood to playing poker and remind the old time. We can use that moment to remember what we can in poker games while improving our skills in a poker game.

Perhaps, we can try to use a new trick that we learn from the internet in the poker game, so we can see if that trick can work or modify. Hiding emotion is not easy as it says, especially if we play with people who know who we are and how we play poker.

That's applicable for those countries that don't have much cases these days.

They can practice that if the casinos or real life poker tables are still restricted to operate because of the situation that we're dealing with. And doing that through online tables, no one can read your emotion on it.

Which is easier.

Perhaps, it is easier to deal with online casinos than offline casinos. I mean, when we play on an online casino, we don't try to use any trick to deceive the other player because they don't know if we have a good card or a bad card.

But with the situations at the moment, if the offline casinos already reopen again, it still not easy to know how to trick the other player as I am sure that when they meet at the poker table, every player will wear a face mask. It will not be easy to know how their face because face recognition will help the pro poker player know if the other player tricks them.

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Gambling at a casino, we really have to control our emotions, not to be easily read by our opponents. And it can be trained and there are many
tutorials on YouTube that we can learn. Therefore if you rarely socialize and can't control your emotions when playing gambling, especially when
playing poker which requires interaction with your opponent. It's better to just play online where your opponent can't read your gesture. Some
gamblers cannot hide their emotions when playing gambling and it is used by your opponents to predict your movements. So the way to be able
to bluffing our opponents and read your opponent's gestures, it takes practice and is not obtained instantly.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 19, 2021, 06:37:45 PM

Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

No tricks. Even with how good we are in bluff, there are people that don't buy it.

The best strategy would be, explore all ways to become a good handler of any cards set. Something that we can able to think quickly the best actions and decisions regardless of any card combination on our hand. Bluff now will just be an optional strategy.

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Quote from: Oasisman on March 23, 2021, 04:42:15 PM

Also, you need to bluff from time to time to confuse your opponent.

Simple as it says but it's not that easy to do.

For experienced poker players, these guys already know how to deal with bluffs and they already have a set of approaches in a different situation. In online poker, players rely purely on their skills and not on bluffs.

OP should not just rely on this bluff method but learn how to utilize his card. There are lots of sequences wherein bad cards still won and that's what I mentioned here before, just build experience and soon in the long-run, OP will now be used on using any strategies.

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