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Quote from: South Park on April 16, 2021, 11:38:53 AM

Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.

There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.

Hmm, yes possibly. Just to create a stir and confusion, they allow themselves to lose with small amounts that they can easily recover afterwards upon winning.
That will surely create them a confused pattern which they can't use to follow your decision making as you play.

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Quote from: joker_josue on April 12, 2021, 11:36:11 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on April 12, 2021, 11:36:11 AM

Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.

There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.

I do not totally agree with this not a single player is going to lose on purpose a hand just to try to confuse their opponents, what they can do is that once they realize that they're going to lose they might as well just confuse their opponent and try to get some advantage of a hand that they know they're going to lose already, this way the next time they are the ones that have the best hand they are more difficult to read for their opponents and they can extract more money out of them.

That's what I wanted to say. I was not able to explain correctly. Thanks for the help in the reasoning I wanted to present.

I am sorry, my English is not very good, and I have difficulty explaining the idea correctly. Wink

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Quote from: Smartprofit on April 12, 2021, 03:27:11 PM

Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.

There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.

I do not totally agree with this not a single player is going to lose on purpose a hand just to try to confuse their opponents, what they can do is that once they realize that they're going to lose they might as well just confuse their opponent and try to get some advantage of a hand that they know they're going to lose already, this way the next time they are the ones that have the best hand they are more difficult to read for their opponents and they can extract more money out of them.

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It takes a lot of practice in real life to become unpredictable in gambling (especially poker).

In the morning after training, brush your teeth not only with your right hand, but also with your left hand. This will allow you to use both the right and left hemispheres of the brain. Write down your dreams. Dreams are the work of your subconscious mind. Knowing yourself better will help you become unpredictable in gambling.

Avoid boilerplate behavior. Walk with your back forward more often (but do not cross the road, otherwise you will easily provoke an accident).

Try to do unusual things, visit unusual places, meet new people.

I like the way you think.
other cool exercises are:
-praticing new skills
- doing everyday skills balancing only in one foot

not being afraid of being silly is a huge advantage.

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It takes a lot of practice in real life to become unpredictable in gambling (especially poker).

In the morning after training, brush your teeth not only with your right hand, but also with your left hand. This will allow you to use both the right and left hemispheres of the brain. Write down your dreams. Dreams are the work of your subconscious mind. Knowing yourself better will help you become unpredictable in gambling.

Avoid boilerplate behavior. Walk with your back forward more often (but do not cross the road, otherwise you will easily provoke an accident).

Try to do unusual things, visit unusual places, meet new people.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on April 12, 2021, 12:24:39 PM

Just knowing how to play poker is not enough, and you also have to learn the overall strategy, how to bluff and how to deal with opponents who are bluffing.
And when you are bluffing, try not to do it over and over again and if you do, other players will find out about your plan and realize that you are just bluffing, and you will lose if the other players read you.
play in a relaxed and calm manner so that it is not easy to read when you have a good or bad hand, and if you know someone who is good at poker then it doesn't hurt to ask that person for help or advice.

Good tips!

Another suggestion is to train to play on free platforms, with other players. Of course here, since the money is not real, the players' behavior is different, as they risk more. Either way, after a few hours of playing, you will realize that each person has a different attitude to the game, and that can be a good workout.

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Just knowing how to play poker is not enough, and you also have to learn the overall strategy, how to bluff and how to deal with opponents who are bluffing.
And when you are bluffing, try not to do it over and over again and if you do, other players will find out about your plan and realize that you are just bluffing, and you will lose if the other players read you.
play in a relaxed and calm manner so that it is not easy to read when you have a good or bad hand, and if you know someone who is good at poker then it doesn't hurt to ask that person for help or advice.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 19, 2021, 06:37:45 PM

Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?

There is a big difference between playing online and playing at the casino tables, although both rely on a solid knowledge of the odds as the cards play out. I would worry less about giving off an "image" or trying to represent a certain play style online, just don't let people steamroll you all the time. If everyone is playing a tight game, either switch tables or be prepared to loosen up and push harder with some lousy stellar hands. You'll either bluff your way through to success, or encourage people to bet against you more often and this can be helpful when you get great cards. Learn all the hand odds calculations, keep practicing and play consistently if you want to win over the long term. So many players try to rush the game out of impatience and you just need to be ready to suck the money up when they crack.

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Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.

There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

There are players who, to create confusion in their opponents, sometimes lose because they want to, in order to make it difficult for opponents to create a pattern.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on April 06, 2021, 01:28:05 AM

Quote from: Stalker22 on April 04, 2021, 09:10:21 AM

Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.

I would lean more on skill because even if you have a really shitty probability landing on you, you can still bluff your way into winning the round. The reason that they think that it is a game of chance is because they only see the shuffle of cards and not how the players try to play mind games with other players, in short the people who say that poker is a game of chance are the mediocre ones.

I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.

Poker players do everything that it is within their ability to do to give themselves an edge and they do so because they know that if they do not do it then someone else will do so and they will have an edge over them, been able to decipher body language is critical because it can help you to make a better decision just when you need it the most, in fact I have seen Phil Hellmuth do some incredible reads on the table that save him a lot of money.

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Quote from: Oilacris on April 07, 2021, 04:56:26 PM

Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.

There's no need for market analysis for poker and being unpredictable mate. What you need to do is to make yourself unpredictable by doing things that are not possible to be read by the other players sitting opposed to you.
Maybe if someone explains to me the relevance of market analysis and being unpredictable in poker, I might understand it.

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I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.

Its attainable!

but it would really be requiring lots of time involvement or experiencing it out because reading up body language isnt something that you can master out

I agree. Even dogs can learn to read body language to some degree. Grin

It's amazing the level of connection they can establish with humans!
People often think their dog understands English, when in fact he doesn't. He understands their meaning.

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Quote from: goaldigger on March 19, 2021, 06:41:30 PM

Gambling requires skill it is never possible to avoid risk if you have no idea about the game you are right it is not possible to understand what is going on in someone's mind the mind can never participate in gambling later. Players need to have skills about gambling and do market analysis before participating in any game guesswork is not always the same in order to achieve good things, you have to use your intellect and learn well your own knowledge is more effective than others.

it may not be possible to avoid risk completely but you can minimize it
and not all gambling requires skill, let's say, dice, as an example
the skill will be much more on how you manage your payroll but the outcome will be more than 90% luck than anything else
don't you think?

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You have to play online and by this no one can predict your emotion. Wink

Seriously, this will depend on you and what type of personality do you have. If you’re look more serious then it can be a good weapon for you, and if you look with less emotion that can also be good. We don’t know how the opponents reads your every move, so stay calm and focus on the game.

I actually do agree on this one, that playing online basically removes the element of reading minds. You can try to read your opponents intentions when playing online but you would not be able to read his mind based on his actions, his facial expressions, and other gestures that one normally does when playing poker in the casino setting. Bluff can be efficient in an online game but can also be predictable when played multiple times with the same players.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on April 07, 2021, 06:08:37 PM

Quote from: Wexnident on April 03, 2021, 08:52:12 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on April 03, 2021, 01:43:33 PM

just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.

I'm pretty sure doing theater is overboard as practice when you just want to play? I mean, I'd sure as hell just spend my passion in theater all the time if I ever started it instead of staying in gambling. And you don't really need to master much when it comes to gambling, unlike in theater plays (Though it does help in body language, both in doing it yourself and reading it through the other actors). Still, the hardest to master would probably intentionally sending fake body signals and facial expressions to the other parties, since if they ever try to read you through that, you can just fake it out and turn that into your own advantage.

yes, definitely it's not a must, but may help.
any activity that helps with proprioception and body counsciousness tbh, even dance.
but of course, these are just tools for one's toolbox, not a must have.

We do have to try to do something to be able to control our body language, indeed practicing theater can be very helpful. But it is not a necessity
as you say, because we can train it anywhere, not necessarily practicing theater. I myself don't have time to join a theater group or join a dance,
I just learn from the internet. There are so many tutorials on the internet that can help us control our emotions and body language.

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Quote from: Wexnident on April 03, 2021, 08:52:12 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on April 03, 2021, 01:43:33 PM

just realized that a good way to practice hiding emotions is also practicing theater.
and also using a mirror
but it may take a lot of technique to be able to control the body, quite hard to master, probably.

I'm pretty sure doing theater is overboard as practice when you just want to play? I mean, I'd sure as hell just spend my passion in theater all the time if I ever started it instead of staying in gambling. And you don't really need to master much when it comes to gambling, unlike in theater plays (Though it does help in body language, both in doing it yourself and reading it through the other actors). Still, the hardest to master would probably intentionally sending fake body signals and facial expressions to the other parties, since if they ever try to read you through that, you can just fake it out and turn that into your own advantage.

yes, definitely it's not a must, but may help.
any activity that helps with proprioception and body counsciousness tbh, even dance.
but of course, these are just tools for one's toolbox, not a must have.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on April 06, 2021, 01:28:05 AM

Quote from: Stalker22 on April 04, 2021, 09:10:21 AM

Is poker a game of skill or chance? Of course, it is both, but the question is whether one is more important than the other. Luck certainly plays an important role, but skill is important too.
People who insist that poker is primarily about chance are effectively saying that skill is somehow insignificant in the scheme of things. Although that may be the way some people play poker, the simple truth is that you can always learn to play better. Everyone has the chance to do this, as far as I can tell.

I would lean more on skill because even if you have a really shitty probability landing on you, you can still bluff your way into winning the round. The reason that they think that it is a game of chance is because they only see the shuffle of cards and not how the players try to play mind games with other players, in short the people who say that poker is a game of chance are the mediocre ones.

I am sure if you study, if you practice enough to learn how to read body language, it is probably one of the greatest treasures that you can own.
If I get that sort of skill and I also get to understand how it works with players I will be able to have a good edge on my own.

I don't know if that's going to happen, but that's one of the goals I have.

Its attainable!

but it would really be requiring lots of time involvement or experiencing it out because reading up body language isnt something that you can master out
but if you do play out on constant manner then you would really be able to tell the difference.

Just play and enjoy the game because experience will be normally for you to attain and if you do wish or having a goal
to have this kind of edge among the others then you should be that patient.

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