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Believe it or not, his attitude is not inconsistent with blue-collar mores. Blue-collar folks do have that "fundamental inner decency" that Orwell celebrated, but they also have unprincipled exceptions (as do many other groups.) A pool hustler is an execrable cheat. But a guy who runs a "little" insurance scam is arguably "getting back at those god-damn bloodsuckers who overcharge us and always deny us our claims when we need them most."

When Trump sais that the bankers, etc. were "killers," his blue-collar supporters translate that to mean "those goddamn bloodsuckers who ran to the taxpayers and got a bailout when we were losing our homes."

Funny how, in the American system, it's the "artificial persons" that are dehumanized...

Most cities/states require police to take an IQ test, and if they score above ~110, they are disqualified from law enforcement

http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-court-ruled-you-can-be-too-smart-to-be-a-cop/5420630
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/court-police-departments-refuse-hire-smart/


High IQ is not always a waste, only in the 120-130 IQ range... after 140, it's all good

I'd more-or-less second that. Studies indicate that for practical matters, like business, an IQ of around 125 is the sweet spot. Many folks with higher IQs get hung up with logical consistency to the point of being "impractical." Also, they tend to be more foolish (gullible) than most because abstract thinking is more "real" to them than for ordinary folks. A shy-high IQ is great if you're the right person at the right time in a certain kind of right place: a tech-type boom. Bill Gates was at the start of one, and he sure did seize his chances. That's why he became a billionaire at the age of 29 - without the use of a single dime in long-term debt - instead of becoming a math professor or living off the million-dollar trust fund his dad had set up for him.

Warren Buffet once said, "Every I.Q. point above 125 is wasted." This from a fellow who got the only A+ from Benjamin Graham in the entire history of the class.

Now I know I'm generalizing: it's not that hard to find exceptions. Here's one that really stuck in my memory: according to the Mega Test, a test designed to flush out the ultra-high IQers, the "second-smartest man in America" as of 1985 was none other than John H. Sununu! It's pretty counterintuitive to find out that a man with an IQ arguably higher than Einstein's is the former governor of New Hampshire.

Yes, four times, welcome to capitalism. And yes, it is an achievement to make more than you started with at those numbers. 200 million, I doubt you even believe that when his own campaign cost 20 odd million and the property/brand/shows he has. I doubt he is 10 billion myself, but I'd say maybe a few.

Your choice is quite naive. Nobody would have scammed me if Trump beat me in a deal. He'd have gotten the better deal. Again, welcome to capitalism. You are into Bitcoin, have you not seen this all for yourself?

He has defaulted FOUR times. According to the following he has defaulted by $4.7 billion. See

http://dividendreference.com/articles/2015/1000637/donald-trump-bankruptcies/

And Forbes thinks he is worth just $200 million.

Losing money like that is not an "achievement". It's a form of theft. It's no good thinking he only defaulted to banks and rich investors and therefore it is OK. Banks had to be bailed out by taxpayers because people like Trump don't pay their loans.

If someone borrowed from you and didn't pay it back would you think a) what a clever man for scamming me, he should be POTUS, or b) what a crook?

His wealth is an achievement no matter what way you shake it. It's not uncommon to be bankrupted a few times on the way to a fortune. And he could have made lots of money via a mutual fund or lost it in a year (like anyone else, so that's a canard).

Is he a bit gruff, sure, but it seems to have no effect on those who vote for him and that's what a democracy allows.

A quick few pokes at my calculator reveals about 35,000,000 people.  I call that a lot and 'not extremely unusual'.

I suspect that well over half of the people I've worked with over the last decade have been in this group.  That being said, many of them are remarkably inept in a lot of ways.  Probably due to the education system.  Most of them have had graduate degrees so there was plenty of opportunity to fuck up their native potential.

Agree with this - there is a rumor that Trump went into reality TV because no one would lend him money anymore. And Forbes thinks he's worth just $200 million though Trump claims he's worth $3bilion (but won't release his tax returns).

It was Margaret Thatcher who said "If you have to tell people you are powerful, you're not". If Trump has to tell people he's rich, he isn't. Do you see Bill Gates having to tell people he's a successful businessman and is rich?

You seem to have a warped view of the IQ scale...

Less than 0.5% of people have an IQ of 140+... Trump is most definitely not in the top 0.5% smartest people on the planet... not a chance

According to Trump, his IQ is "one of the highest - and you all know it!"
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/332308211321425920?lang=en

What achievements are you talking about?  The man could have made 100x as much money if he would have invested it in a mutual fund... He has a dozen or more failed businesses... he's a racist, bigot and fascist... he's declared bankruptcy 4 times... he incites violence... what achievements?

Average = Stupid.

Otherwise our world wouldn't be in this deep shit.

Average IQ of USA: 98
https://iq-research.org/en/page/average-iq-by-country

So yes 100 IQ is pretty stupid.

Given his achievements, I would guess that Trump would pull 140 or higher on Stanford-Binnet IQ tests.  That's not extremely unusual though.

GW Bush would probably do in excess of 120 by my estimation even after substance abuse took it's toll.  Probably somewhat higher before that.  He did learn how to fly a jet aircraft and got through school albeit with help from a powerful crime family pulling some strings.

You don't think the average person is stupid?  Have you met people?

I also didn't claim Trump had an IQ of 100... probably closer to 120, which has a personality type of its own... people with an IQ of 120-130 are usually the smartest guy in the room, and it goes to their head... that range has more smart asses than smart people... smart people start around 140 IQ

Hey, please.  There's no need to push the hard sell, you know you are not convincing when you do that.

Just for fun, take a look at where you are wrong.  An IQ of 100 is not "Stupid," it is exactly "average."  "Talks at an IQ level of 100" is not equal to "has an IQ of 100," it simply means "attempts to communicate effectively with the average person."

Are we having fun now?  And not insulting anybody.  How about that?

 

I've picked up this image only because it is harry bosch's favorite brand. Bosh is a cop/detective show on amazon prime.

Anyone with an IQ of 100 IS stupid!

And... half the people are dumber than that!

If Trump wasn't an idiot... he'd have $300 billion, not $3 billion... Simply by putting his inheritance in a mutual fund that tracked the S&P 500... How smart is he now?  He's worth 1% of what he should be worth!

Trump has failed businesses left and right... he's declared bankruptcy 4 times!

If Trump didn't have every advantage in the world, he'd be a broke-ass loser... unfortunately, he's a rich loser simply because his dad was rich

For some reason, you pic reminded me of a brand called "Meister Pils" that a friend of my brother got when we were underage. After drinking it, we immediately dubbed it "Mister Piss."

Ah, the old underage days...drinkable to start, cheap plonk to finish.