The US is a very diverse place. Based on whatever logic you choose there should be somewhere here thats suitable.
Topic: Best/worst places to be in the United States once the USD plummets? (Read 4666 times)
July 01, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
Ummm, not in the U.S.
Given the USD's status as the worlds reserve currency, I'm not sure it will much matter. Everyone is in for some serious pain.
July 01, 2013, 01:26:03 PM
Ummm, not in the U.S.
June 27, 2013, 03:39:19 PM
Regarding protein, why not just get it directly from roving mobs and bandits?
lol you think you are the only one with guns? Good luck defeating bandits/mobs with guns.
June 26, 2013, 01:44:44 AM
June 26, 2013, 01:13:19 AM
I would say a small to medium sized town is the best place to be, under 250k people but no smaller than 10k. That's where you see people working it out and pulling together. I wouldn't want to be too isolated. It's good to have medical care, food, water, trade, friends, jobs..
Greece already had its economy crash and things have been pretty bad. There's some interesting journalism about this in the Telegraph and a few other newspapers online. A barter system sprung up; people moved out of Athens to go back to their home provinces.
Greece already had its economy crash and things have been pretty bad. There's some interesting journalism about this in the Telegraph and a few other newspapers online. A barter system sprung up; people moved out of Athens to go back to their home provinces.
June 26, 2013, 12:32:14 AM
I would say places that grow food for humans, that is not that corn crap...
Corn, wheat, oats or rice, in the end it's all grass.Still, I would prefer to be near where something I can eat is grown...
The mass produced corn isn't really too edible...
It's edible. Grind it up into flour and make bread. Also cows...
And chickens. Corn makes for a fine chicken dinner after about four months.
June 25, 2013, 05:39:45 PM
[Corn is] edible. Grind it up into flour and make bread. Also cows...
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if our grocery store beef had corn in it too
June 25, 2013, 03:20:24 PM
I would say places that grow food for humans, that is not that corn crap...
Corn, wheat, oats or rice, in the end it's all grass.Still, I would prefer to be near where something I can eat is grown...
The mass produced corn isn't really too edible...
It's edible. Grind it up into flour and make bread. Also cows...
June 25, 2013, 05:44:21 AM
Regarding protein, why not just get it directly from roving mobs and bandits?
lol you think you are the only one with guns? Good luck defeating bandits/mobs with guns.
Barbecue sauce.
June 25, 2013, 01:13:58 AM
I'm hitchhiking to Montana tomorrow.
Enjoy! I've spent a lot of time in the mountains along the Montana/Idaho border. Beautiful and plentiful if you know what you're doing. As an added bonus, this time of year it's not deadly if you don't!
June 25, 2013, 12:23:44 AM
I'm hitchhiking to Montana tomorrow.
June 24, 2013, 04:30:20 PM
Regarding protein, why not just get it directly from roving mobs and bandits?
lol you think you are the only one with guns? Good luck defeating bandits/mobs with guns.
nets and traps. I don't have to go out and look for people to shoot, just sit and wait for them to come to me and check the traps once in a while
June 24, 2013, 02:50:32 PM
Regarding protein, why not just get it directly from roving mobs and bandits?
lol you think you are the only one with guns? Good luck defeating bandits/mobs with guns.
June 24, 2013, 01:13:11 PM
Regarding protein, why not just get it directly from roving mobs and bandits?
Mmmm, Soylent Green....
That thought is like opening up a fortune cookie after a great meal, and all it says is "That wasn't chicken".
June 24, 2013, 12:15:54 PM
Regarding protein, why not just get it directly from roving mobs and bandits?
June 23, 2013, 11:03:11 PM
.....Some pawpaws, apples, pears, etc; mixed into the forest, and in a decade or so the 'food forest' will produce a great deal of food. Problem is, permaculure doesn't produce on a modern industrial timescale.
Most of what doesn't produce on a modern industrial timescale has been literally forgotten, or in many cases, the information didn't transfer from our North American Indians to the whites coming in.
They have been rediscovered. Sepp Holzer, from Austria, is generally considered the single most influential person in the modern permaculture movement. And he didn't think of the idea, he's just a very talented farmer who's family ranch is above 1500 meters above sea level. He either had to figure it all out, or his family farm would fail. He has literally proven several agriculture 'facts' to be false; such as it's impossible to grow fruit trees above 1000 meters above sea level. It only takes one example to disprove such things, while Sepp has literally grown hundreds of fruit trees to fruiting above 1500 meters, of many different species and varieties.
His family farm didn't fail.
June 23, 2013, 10:56:12 PM
....Basicly the stump and roots rot in the ground, providing long term fertilizer and water retention for the seedling fruit tree.
I've yet to see this happen, in my experience with numerous species the roots grow shoots around the old stump, and you get what looks like a bush two or three years later.
That would be coppicing, which I already mentioned as the more likely outcome of cutting a mature standing tree in winter. If, and only if, the stump dies; would I then bury it and use it in this manner.
June 23, 2013, 09:16:36 PM
....Basicly the stump and roots rot in the ground, providing long term fertilizer and water retention for the seedling fruit tree.
I've yet to see this happen, in my experience with numerous species the roots grow shoots around the old stump, and you get what looks like a bush two or three years later.
June 23, 2013, 09:13:16 PM
.....Some pawpaws, apples, pears, etc; mixed into the forest, and in a decade or so the 'food forest' will produce a great deal of food. Problem is, permaculure doesn't produce on a modern industrial timescale.
Most of what doesn't produce on a modern industrial timescale has been literally forgotten, or in many cases, the information didn't transfer from our North American Indians to the whites coming in.
Some examples are the uses of the yucca plants, the high nutritional value of mesquite beans, and the fact that toasted crab grass (Johnson grass) seeds are both quite tasty and nutritious. We've also forgotten the lore involved in making it through a harsh winter by stripping out the inner bark section of trees. In many cases the loss of this lore is because it didn't translate into large scale or mechanized production.
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