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Quote from: UserU on November 20, 2021, 10:40:12 AM

Exactly. In-house developers are always better than using some pre-developed templates since the author could simply inject a malicious script into one of the updates.

I agree. It is always better to build gambling script with in-house developers from scratch. However, I do not believe BetABit.Casino has the necessary expertise nor the resources at their disposal to build something like that, not to mention the capital necessary to fund bankrolls, promotions, and so on. This seems more like an attempt to earn some quick cash. But I will keep an open mind.

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Quote from: decodx on November 20, 2021, 08:25:14 AM

Not necessarily.
With simple step-by-step instructions, almost anyone with basic computer skills can install a ready-made script on a hosting server. However, understanding the inner workings of gambling scripts requires knowledge of programming, programming language syntax, and math. Considering how much the OP struggled with just a simple task like editing a logo on a website, I believe he lacks the expertise required for something like this.

Regarding your statement that it's stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing any research, I completely agree.

Exactly. In-house developers are always better than using some pre-developed templates since the author could simply inject a malicious script into one of the updates.

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Quote from: panjul07 on November 20, 2021, 07:57:33 AM

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 20, 2021, 04:32:02 AM

If this is a purchased casino script, the owner may not know how it really works. It is possible that the seller just lied to him. He got the info that the script was provably fair and believed it. Now when he is asked to present evidence, he just can't do it and tries to hide it.

I highly doubt that it is the case as anyone with smart logic will try to find out about the important thing related to the product they want to buy.
In this case, having a casino is a business, gambling business so anyone who want to own a casino should not be that stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing researches.
I'm quite sure the OP know everything about the script including about the questionable provably fairness but he do not want to admit it.

Not necessarily.
With simple step-by-step instructions, almost anyone with basic computer skills can install a ready-made script on a hosting server. However, understanding the inner workings of gambling scripts requires knowledge of programming, programming language syntax, and math. Considering how much the OP struggled with just a simple task like editing a logo on a website, I believe he lacks the expertise required for something like this.

Regarding your statement that it's stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing any research, I completely agree.

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Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on November 20, 2021, 04:32:02 AM

If this is a purchased casino script, the owner may not know how it really works. It is possible that the seller just lied to him. He got the info that the script was provably fair and believed it. Now when he is asked to present evidence, he just can't do it and tries to hide it.

I highly doubt that it is the case as anyone with smart logic will try to find out about the important thing related to the product they want to buy.
In this case, having a casino is a business, gambling business so anyone who want to own a casino should not be that stupid to buy a random cheap script without doing researches.
I'm quite sure the OP know everything about the script including about the questionable provably fairness but he do not want to admit it.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 20, 2021, 05:25:34 AM

Quote from: mitchr4 on November 20, 2021, 05:08:35 AM

It's strange to see a site that gives a description on their main page saying "All our games are provably fair. We do not cheat." it's like we will be cheated. I think the use of the right words in a casino is something to pay attention to.
Also in their recent games, some players use their real names like they don't care about identities in gambling.

Good point! Whenever someone writes that something is not a scam, the first thing that comes to my mind is that it is. Well, because have you ever seen any serious big companies with an established position that ever talk about the fact that they are not scammers? Not! Because why talk about it? It is after all an obvious. However, if someone talks about it from the beginning, it immediately seems suspicious to me.

Well…I guess this is how it goes: He bought a pre-made casino script, bought a domain and thought that he is the master of all the gambling worlds!

This, however, is not the case and it is obvious that he hadn't thought about it very much. What many people don't realize is that there are thousands of gambling sites that use this exact same approach. But, running a successful gambling site requires much more than that. You need to plan, invest, come up with ideas and many other things that OP did not do.

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Quote from: mitchr4 on November 20, 2021, 05:08:35 AM

It's strange to see a site that gives a description on their main page saying "All our games are provably fair. We do not cheat." it's like we will be cheated. I think the use of the right words in a casino is something to pay attention to.
Also in their recent games, some players use their real names like they don't care about identities in gambling.

Good point! Whenever someone writes that something is not a scam, the first thing that comes to my mind is that it is. Well, because have you ever seen any serious big companies with an established position that ever talk about the fact that they are not scammers? Not! Because why talk about it? It is after all an obvious. However, if someone talks about it from the beginning, it immediately seems suspicious to me.

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It's strange to see a site that gives a description on their main page saying "All our games are provably fair. We do not cheat." it's like we will be cheated. I think the use of the right words in a casino is something to pay attention to.
Also in their recent games, some players use their real names like they don't care about identities in gambling.

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Quote from: BitcoinAccepted on November 20, 2021, 04:19:55 AM

It looks like the OP received his first negative trust. I really think the games were fair too and based on the looks of the website I wouldn't really trust that kind of gambling site especially the description he gave on the provably fair part. Instead of giving explanation how the seed works and the full details he just gave a explanation that it is fair.

If this is a purchased casino script, the owner may not know how it really works. It is possible that the seller just lied to him. He got the info that the script was provably fair and believed it. Now when he is asked to present evidence, he just can't do it and tries to hide it.

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It looks like the OP received his first negative trust. I really think the games were fair too and based on the looks of the website I wouldn't really trust that kind of gambling site especially the description he gave on the provably fair part. Instead of giving explanation how the seed works and the full details he just gave a explanation that it is fair.

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Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

The funniest thing is that all the haters on this forum are promoting other casinos that are exactly the same and are probably much worse behind the scenes - maybe the flashy designs make you people happy and trusted.

This the funniest defense from a casino's owner who cant explain what is asked by the community. You cant even see the fact that gamblers are not only look at the design of the casino and no casino is trusted just because of the design. You act like a crying kid who is failed to fool his friends.

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Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

No problem, if that's the sentiment I'm getting then we will scrap the raffle idea.

Moaned at for not replying on here then when I do, my posts get deleted by moderators and you guys just cant be pleased no matter what I say or how I say it.

I seriously give up trying here.

you can give up anytime as you really did not do anything to please people here instead your attitude and behavior in answering those issues says a lot how you are similar to those scam site that had been caught , I am not saying you are one but close to them is indeed.

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The funniest thing is that all the haters on this forum are promoting other casinos that are exactly the same and are probably much worse behind the scenes - maybe the flashy designs make you people happy and trusted.

you just can't call people Haters, instead if you will open your eyes those are criticism that you can answer with good attitude but no your not .

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Quote from: decodx on November 19, 2021, 07:10:03 PM

Quote from: cwil on November 19, 2021, 06:55:24 PM

Not paying when you should is a much bigger problem in my opinion, and for that reason my negative feedback will remain.

Yes, that is a much bigger prolem.

You see @Betabit.casino, we aren't looking for escrow services and free drinks, we just want a casino where we will be treated fairly and that won't try to scam us. I guess now we all see what's really going on here.

These types of problems with withdrawals sometimes happen at the beginning of the casino's operations. But I am surprised that the owner does not try to fix this situation as soon as possible by withdrawing manually.
Of course it's disturbing, but I think we should wait a bit more with accussations.

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Quote from: cwil on November 19, 2021, 06:55:24 PM

Not paying when you should is a much bigger problem in my opinion, and for that reason my negative feedback will remain.

Yes, that is a much bigger prolem.

You see @Betabit.casino, we aren't looking for escrow services and free drinks, we just want a casino where we will be treated fairly and that won't try to scam us. I guess now we all see what's really going on here.

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Quote from: cwil on November 19, 2021, 06:55:24 PM

Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

The funniest thing is that all the haters on this forum are promoting other casinos that are exactly the same and are probably much worse behind the scenes - maybe the flashy designs make you people happy and trusted.

Not sure if I'm a "hater" but I do not and have never promoted any casino.

The point is that many of the people who comment on this thread have advertisements from other casinos in their signatures. Probably the OP does not know that we are simply taking part in a signature campaign and 99% of users have nothing to do with the casino they have in signature. However, if someone does not know how it works, it may feel that it is someone who represents a different casino.

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Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

The funniest thing is that all the haters on this forum are promoting other casinos that are exactly the same and are probably much worse behind the scenes - maybe the flashy designs make you people happy and trusted.

Not sure if I'm a "hater" but I do not and have never promoted any casino.

Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

I love how people shout scam when they haven't even got the decency to give it a chance and try for real. Some people must get a kick out of bad mouthing other people who make an effort and try positive things.

I tried it, you didn't pay.

For the record, I don't really care about your provably fair algorithm and disagree with others on this forum that believe it is necessary. Most casinos advertised on this forum don't use provably fair algorithms or have only a limited selection of games that use them. I also agree that you probably do not have the technical knowledge needed to modify your purchased software to exploit the vulnerability TwitchySeal and I have discussed. Not paying when you should is a much bigger problem in my opinion, and for that reason my negative feedback will remain.

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Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

I've tried on countless occasions to engage with this community on a serious level however there are to many people who like to spoil it for others so they maintain there trust scores. Some of you have good manners even if you have a gripe with the casino which is fair - but others are just rude and ignorant with nothing between the ears.

You never tried to engage with me. You said it's a criminal offense and you could sue me if I don't deposit on your site but tell other people about the flaw in your provably fair implementation.

Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 08, 2021, 06:21:06 PM

However unless you have actually deposited and played on my site - Libel Is A Criminal Offense - ruining websites credibility online without checking in full and making comments as such is a suable offense in a court of law. Please refrain from labelling my website unless you have had a genuine bad experience please. Be respectful.

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Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

I've tried on countless occasions to engage with this community on a serious level however there are to many people who like to spoil it for others so they maintain there trust scores. Some of you have good manners even if you have a gripe with the casino which is fair - but others are just rude and ignorant with nothing between the ears.

How do you justify your failures on countless occasions when others, evidently, have been successful? I think it is your attitude. What do you think?

Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

I get the idea of what's going on here, I'll move forward and upwards

Good for you. Wink

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Quote from: Betabit.casino on November 19, 2021, 05:08:31 PM

No problem, if that's the sentiment I'm getting then we will scrap the raffle idea.

Moaned at for not replying on here then when I do, my posts get deleted by moderators and you guys just cant be pleased no matter what I say or how I say it.

I seriously give up trying here.

The funniest thing is that all the haters on this forum are promoting other casinos that are exactly the same and are probably much worse behind the scenes - maybe the flashy designs make you people happy and trusted.

I'm sure that all the other crypto casinos offer up escrow services and free lunch and a drink to go with it!

I love how people shout scam when they haven't even got the decency to give it a chance and try for real. Some people must get a kick out of bad mouthing other people who make an effort and try positive things.

I've tried on countless occasions to engage with this community on a serious level however there are to many people who like to spoil it for others so they maintain there trust scores. Some of you have good manners even if you have a gripe with the casino which is fair - but others are just rude and ignorant with nothing between the ears.

I get the idea of what's going on here, I'll move forward and upwards

I am not screaming scam nor I am a technical expert. However, I would like to know why your fair system is different from other Provably Fair casinos.
So I am asking you very nice, could you please provide evidence that your casino is provably fair?
Hope to get a reply before you leave Bitcointalk.
Thank you

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No problem, if that's the sentiment I'm getting then we will scrap the raffle idea.

Moaned at for not replying on here then when I do, my posts get deleted by moderators and you guys just cant be pleased no matter what I say or how I say it.

I seriously give up trying here.

The funniest thing is that all the haters on this forum are promoting other casinos that are exactly the same and are probably much worse behind the scenes - maybe the flashy designs make you people happy and trusted.

I'm sure that all the other crypto casinos offer up escrow services and free lunch and a drink to go with it!

I love how people shout scam when they haven't even got the decency to give it a chance and try for real. Some people must get a kick out of bad mouthing other people who make an effort and try positive things.

I've tried on countless occasions to engage with this community on a serious level however there are to many people who like to spoil it for others so they maintain there trust scores. Some of you have good manners even if you have a gripe with the casino which is fair - but others are just rude and ignorant with nothing between the ears.

I get the idea of what's going on here, I'll move forward and upwards

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You can all afford at least $10 to deposit into the casino before slating it, lets see who is real or not, $10...

Are you crazy Dumb? People asking you to provide proof of your game fairness. And you asking everyone to deposit $10 on your casino to prove that they are real.

Well, they are not Bot. Nice Scam attempt 😆

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