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legendary
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November 19, 2021, 11:26:56 AM
Regarding trust issues which unfortunately cant be avoided, I have an idea that may be of interest.

If I create a Bitcoin Talk raffle for $5 per ticket - winner takes all and the winner can post proof of his or her withdrawal.

There is no way of us fooling the raffle right? We will just take a 5% rake from the pot as a casino fee and the rest is the winners.

Are you ok?  You're not making any sense.

Just stop claiming your games are provably fair, because they aren't.  At least the card based ones.  Get rid of the stupid server secret.
legendary
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November 19, 2021, 09:03:14 AM
Regarding trust issues which unfortunately cant be avoided, I have an idea that may be of interest.

If I create a Bitcoin Talk raffle for $5 per ticket - winner takes all and the winner can post proof of his or her withdrawal.

No. You cannot fix the negative sentiment regarding your casino by running a raffle on BitcoinTalk. If you want to fix the trust issues, then you should address the problems with the casino.

There is no way of us fooling the raffle right?

Wrong. Who will guarantee that the winner will receive the prize? Where will the funds be held in escrow?

We will just take a 5% rake from the pot as a casino fee and the rest is the winners.

Why would anyone want to enter your raffle when we already have multiple raffles organized by respected forum members without any rake?


Btw, please stop multi-posting and blatantly violating the forum's rules.
newbie
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November 19, 2021, 07:58:38 AM
Panju,

I have been very clear about other sites...I'm not interested in those. I have my own casino, my own crypto and soon I will build my own crypto exchange swap.

I have not commented about other casinos and definitely not promoted them so I'm unsure of where you are receiving your information.

There are no issues with withdrawals. BABC Token has also been integrated with deposit and withdraw options.

The games are fair and even if I wanted too I wouldn't know how to manipulate the games! There are users here that have tested the provably fair system, not complained about it and made a profit. If the casino wasnt working we would not have created a BABC Token.

Regarding trust issues which unfortunately cant be avoided, I have an idea that may be of interest.

If I create a Bitcoin Talk raffle for $5 per ticket - winner takes all and the winner can post proof of his or her withdrawal.

There is no way of us fooling the raffle right? We will just take a 5% rake from the pot as a casino fee and the rest is the winners.

Obviously for this to work it would require at least 100 people to make it worth it however it will clear up any trust issues you guys have when the winner takes all and posts the results here.

You can all afford at least $10 to deposit into the casino before slating it, lets see who is real or not, $10...

If I get 100 'Yes' on the poll I created then I will set up the raffle.

We are open to suggestions regarding the raffle...

legendary
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November 19, 2021, 07:44:00 AM
Congrats to the first 5 players who have each been sent 1000 BABC Tokens to there respective addresses, there are still a few of you that haven't replied to the email we sent so please reply so we can send you your reward for playing with us.

Why didn't you take your time to answer or reply the question related to the fairness of your game as well as the accusation against you above that you failed to process withdrawal?
Are you ignoring them consciously as what is used to be done by most other casinos with the same script?
Or you are just the same person as the previous owner of the older sites?
newbie
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November 19, 2021, 06:18:57 AM
Congrats to the first 5 players who have each been sent 1000 BABC Tokens to there respective addresses, there are still a few of you that haven't replied to the email we sent so please reply so we can send you your reward for playing with us.

All coin transactions can be viewed here: https://bscscan.com/token/0x9605E7fb26CF369793E154ADFe3cf835332964B6
sr. member
Activity: 285
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November 18, 2021, 06:48:01 PM
I think you're right about slots and dice.  They're basically taking a non-provably fair random number and then shifting it by a provably fair random number.  I could be missing something though, I can't find the actual code posted anywhere and I haven't really looked into their slots too much.

Thanks, my focus hasn't been on provably fair implementations lately, but figured there was a chance someone developed a new exploit against these types of which I hadn't read.

I hesitate to respond to the previous two posts, but I'm a security researcher and I expect to lose small amounts of crypto with these sites. I make a whole lot more than I'll ever lose disclosing vulnerabilities to site operators and game studios. Publicly reporting anything at all about a site is not in my best interest, but I do publicly report a site's poor behavior to this community anyway. Implying I'm "stupid" or lack common sense is pretty uncalled for, and I hope anyone with that attitude considers their words more carefully before making such posts in the future.
hero member
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November 18, 2021, 05:50:56 PM
I think you would be more likely to succeed if you focused on fixing the way outcomes are determined in your casino so that they are actually provably fair.

In the mean time, you should remove any mention of your games being provably fair, since they're not.

Your issue with their provably fair implementation is that the client seed isn't used for the generation of their server secret, but is instead used to manipulate the final results. In the case of a card game, that means cutting the deck, and I see how that could be exploited. I'm not sure how that'd be implemented with their slots game though because it seems like the client seed does an unpredictable job of shuffling the reels, and same with dice. Do you have any ideas on that? (I really am just curious, not trying to defend this casino)

Anyway, this casino failed to process a withdrawal.

When the casino isn't even provably fair, withdrawals should be the least of your concerns.

You'd be pretty stupid to play on this site imho, at least play at a place where you know exactly what your odds of winning are through a provably fair system.

But hey, each to their own I guess.
Fairness issue > Withdrawal

Once you do know that there is some issues about fairness then it would be simply be needing up some common sense whether you do continue to deposit or not and to mind that there are more better and fair casinos out there and not just this one.

Therefore, common sense is really needed on times like these and wont really be much needing a piece of advise or been told
by other people.
sr. member
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November 18, 2021, 05:30:53 PM
I think you would be more likely to succeed if you focused on fixing the way outcomes are determined in your casino so that they are actually provably fair.

In the mean time, you should remove any mention of your games being provably fair, since they're not.

Your issue with their provably fair implementation is that the client seed isn't used for the generation of their server secret, but is instead used to manipulate the final results. In the case of a card game, that means cutting the deck, and I see how that could be exploited. I'm not sure how that'd be implemented with their slots game though because it seems like the client seed does an unpredictable job of shuffling the reels, and same with dice. Do you have any ideas on that? (I really am just curious, not trying to defend this casino)

Anyway, this casino failed to process a withdrawal.

When the casino isn't even provably fair, withdrawals should be the least of your concerns.

You'd be pretty stupid to play on this site imho, at least play at a place where you know exactly what your odds of winning are through a provably fair system.

But hey, each to their own I guess.
legendary
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November 18, 2021, 05:20:17 PM
I think you would be more likely to succeed if you focused on fixing the way outcomes are determined in your casino so that they are actually provably fair.

In the mean time, you should remove any mention of your games being provably fair, since they're not.

Your issue with their provably fair implementation is that the client seed isn't used for the generation of their server secret, but is instead used to manipulate the final results. In the case of a card game, that means cutting the deck, and I see how that could be exploited. I'm not sure how that'd be implemented with their slots game though because it seems like the client seed does an unpredictable job of shuffling the reels, and same with dice. Do you have any ideas on that? (I really am just curious, not trying to defend this casino)

Anyway, this casino failed to process a withdrawal.

I think you're right about slots and dice.  They're basically taking a non-provably fair random number and then shifting it by a provably fair random number.  I could be missing something though, I can't find the actual code posted anywhere and I haven't really looked into their slots too much.

In the end, having a server secret is either pointless or it results in the game being notprovably fair.  I can say for sure it's making their card based games not provably fair.  It really wouldn't be that difficult for whoever developed their software to simply get rid of it.
newbie
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November 18, 2021, 05:11:05 PM
Faqs page updated - https://betabit.casino/pages/Faqs... more updates to come, one at a time please...
legendary
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November 18, 2021, 04:33:01 PM
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Yeah right! I think it's time for you to get real and stop projecting your insecurities onto others.

BABC Token has now been integrated into the casino platform and is live for deposits with your tokens.

Is there a reason why you don't mention that in your Terms of Service or FAQs?
newbie
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November 18, 2021, 04:02:01 PM
BABC Token has now been integrated into the casino platform and is live for deposits with your tokens.

You can purchase tokens via Pancake swap in exchange for BNB tokens.

Great rewards using our token, take advantage of extra credits when depositing BABC to your casino account!
Every $1 you deposit in BABC (Purchasable on pancake swap) - you will receive an extra amount in casino credits based on the tokens current value.

Holders of the coin receive a percentage of every traders transactions.

The first 100 players to deposit and play a minimum of $50 in the casino from this post will receive an email from us with a request for your BABC Token address and each will receive 1000 BABC Tokens on us!

Happy Gaming.
sr. member
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November 18, 2021, 03:13:05 PM
I think you would be more likely to succeed if you focused on fixing the way outcomes are determined in your casino so that they are actually provably fair.

In the mean time, you should remove any mention of your games being provably fair, since they're not.

Your issue with their provably fair implementation is that the client seed isn't used for the generation of their server secret, but is instead used to manipulate the final results. In the case of a card game, that means cutting the deck, and I see how that could be exploited. I'm not sure how that'd be implemented with their slots game though because it seems like the client seed does an unpredictable job of shuffling the reels, and same with dice. Do you have any ideas on that? (I really am just curious, not trying to defend this casino)

I'm not that tech expert, but as far as I know, casinos that are Provably Fair give you a TX for every "deal". If it's not given here, it's not Provably Fair in my opinion.

Anyway, this casino failed to process a withdrawal.

When did you claim your withdrawal?
sr. member
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November 18, 2021, 02:59:44 PM
I think you would be more likely to succeed if you focused on fixing the way outcomes are determined in your casino so that they are actually provably fair.

In the mean time, you should remove any mention of your games being provably fair, since they're not.

Your issue with their provably fair implementation is that the client seed isn't used for the generation of their server secret, but is instead used to manipulate the final results. In the case of a card game, that means cutting the deck, and I see how that could be exploited. I'm not sure how that'd be implemented with their slots game though because it seems like the client seed does an unpredictable job of shuffling the reels, and same with dice. Do you have any ideas on that? (I really am just curious, not trying to defend this casino)

Anyway, this casino failed to process a withdrawal.
sr. member
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November 18, 2021, 02:51:07 PM
Not sure if any traders have noticed however this pair looks like an easy 10x gem if bought at a good price.

Just purchased 10,000 tokens via Binance @ 0.1389 - will be hodling for a while.

I'm not a financial advisor however do take a look as this could make you a nice profit here defo.

Good luck everyone

Any analysis or thoughts on the pair from you guys would be great for the ride up and the community in general...

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hegic/

11 days later:



hmmm....

This definitely doesn't look like good investment advice. However, it was not only the price of this coin that fell, as the entire cryptocurrency market fell into a little bearish market.

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Price drops may take longer. I don't think this is the best time to invest.
newbie
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November 18, 2021, 01:47:37 PM
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legendary
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November 18, 2021, 01:30:29 PM
BABC Token Has gone live - https://bscscan.com/token/0x9605E7fb26CF369793E154ADFe3cf835332964B6

You can purchase the coin via Pancake swap.

Happy gaming - many rewards to come for holders - only 75m tokens issued.

No disrespect intended, but why do you think anyone would want to buy your token? You haven't outlined any benefits for holders, and we can't even use the token for gambling on your platform. You don't talk about the basic things like what is the value of the token? What is the purpose of the token? Where is the whitepaper, tokenomics, anything... about this token?

Honestly, how can you expect any success with such an unprofessional approach? Your credibility in the community is slipping, so I advise you to review your idea carefully before asking members of the bitcointalk community to contribute.
legendary
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November 18, 2021, 12:54:43 PM
BABC Token Has gone live - https://bscscan.com/token/0x9605E7fb26CF369793E154ADFe3cf835332964B6

You can purchase the coin via Pancake swap.

Happy gaming - many rewards to come for holders - only 75m tokens issued.

Trade BABC with Pancake swap.

I think you would be more likely to succeed if you focused on fixing the way outcomes are determined in your casino so that they are actually provably fair.

In the mean time, you should remove any mention of your games being provably fair, since they're not.



Stop complaining and go and make some money: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/big-potential-profit-indication-for-hegicbusd-on-binance-5370043

Maybe you will thank me after making a profit and see how legit an investor I am.

Good luck everyone.

Not sure if any traders have noticed however this pair looks like an easy 10x gem if bought at a good price.

Just purchased 10,000 tokens via Binance @ 0.1389 - will be hodling for a while.

I'm not a financial advisor however do take a look as this could make you a nice profit here defo.

Good luck everyone

Any analysis or thoughts on the pair from you guys would be great for the ride up and the community in general...

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/hegic/

11 days later:



hmmm....
sr. member
Activity: 476
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November 18, 2021, 12:25:53 PM
BABC Token Has gone live - https://bscscan.com/token/0x9605E7fb26CF369793E154ADFe3cf835332964B6

You can purchase the coin via Pancake swap.

Happy gaming - many rewards to come for holders - only 75m tokens issued.

Trade BABC with Pancake swap.

Like seriously? Did you create a token with the name of your casino which has less than a thousand players?

IDK what do you think about BitcoinTalk Community?
You launched your casino about a month ago. You already got a negative trust rate from High-Rank users. You failed to answer to the community. Today you are back with your own created Shitcoin and you asking us to buy your shitcoins that don't have a logo or icon (whatever it is) yet? WTF Man?
newbie
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November 18, 2021, 11:58:12 AM
BABC Token Has gone live - https://bscscan.com/token/0x9605E7fb26CF369793E154ADFe3cf835332964B6

You can purchase the coin via Pancake swap.

Happy gaming - many rewards to come for holders - only 75m tokens issued.

Trade BABC with Pancake swap.
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