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newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Hey,
the antifraud team decided that you had used several accounts on similar ips which is clear evidence of cheating. We have it in our T&C that players can't use multiple accounts. You are welcome to withdraw your initial deposit. We are more than happy to clarify anything else.

Similiar ip addresses is far from clear evidence of cheating.  Just KYC him like you would with a player trying to cash out $200.

By the way, the only mention of ip address in your T&C is this:

Quote
When you visit the Website, our system automatically collects information about your visit, such as your browser, IP address, and the referring website. This collection may be done in conjunction with our platform providers and partners. We may receive from them general demographic or usage data of our Website visitors. We do not use automatically collected information to identify you personally without receiving additional consent.

You might want to just respond in the scam accusation thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betchain-takes-major-winnings-away-5257873









Apparently they claim my screenshots proving my wins and bet amount as their own proof now lol Im going to post on askgamblers since they seem to just avoid fixing this. Also....

Oh look I won the spinfest -.-

https://i.gyazo.com/88c506ba2800e24eac352ce2b80b9235.png

its a shame they will not let me get my winnings or these 600 spins i earned either






https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257873.new#new
legendary
Activity: 2716
Merit: 2093
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Hey,
the antifraud team decided that you had used several accounts on similar ips which is clear evidence of cheating. We have it in our T&C that players can't use multiple accounts. You are welcome to withdraw your initial deposit. We are more than happy to clarify anything else.

Similiar ip addresses is far from clear evidence of cheating.  Just KYC him like you would with a player trying to cash out $200.

By the way, the only mention of ip address in your T&C is this:

Quote
When you visit the Website, our system automatically collects information about your visit, such as your browser, IP address, and the referring website. This collection may be done in conjunction with our platform providers and partners. We may receive from them general demographic or usage data of our Website visitors. We do not use automatically collected information to identify you personally without receiving additional consent.

You might want to just respond in the scam accusation thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betchain-takes-major-winnings-away-5257873






newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
Hi Forcedtoreggy,
The fact is our fraud team discovered numerous accounts tied to yours. Our Terms and Conditions clearly state-"Each player can create only one (1) personal account. Creating multiple Player Accounts by a single player can lead to termination of all such accounts."

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find another casino returning the deposit amount to a player who clearly violated the Terms and Conditions.  It's interesting that you were prepared with all of your screenshots, like you've been through this before (as you mentioned with FJ).

We've been around since 2014, paying many winners on a daily basis.

The fact here is I DONT have numerous accounts, KYC will quickly prove that. You keep repeating that ToS when I DIDNT BREAK IT.

Are you kidding me??

You're criticizing me for having posted screenshots when I won over freaking $10000?Huh AS IF THATS YOUR GOD DAMN PROOF?


Jesus Christ, you guys are kidding me now?


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Hey,
the antifraud team decided that you had used several accounts on similar ips which is clear evidence of cheating. We have it in our T&C that players can't use multiple accounts. You are welcome to withdraw your initial deposit. We are more than happy to clarify anything else.


The only clear evidence of cheating here, is you guys pulling this crap.

I did not multiaccount and offered KYC which resolves any bullshit excuse. Hell I didnt even lose what I deposited into bonus, I started winning pretty much from the start. What you guys are doing is defrauding your users when they win big. Nothing more.

I withdrew my deposit back (why would you say I can keep playing without bonuses after pulling some shit like this?) and I will keep fighting to get what I rightfully won. Primedice seems to have know a rise in sites like your defrauding users, I just wish I listened before. smh.

If you think that you did not break any rules, you should open a scam accusation thread with all the proofs you have.
By this way, most members will take a look at your case and give their own opinion especially DT members.
If members think that you are on the right side then members will support you and it may force betchain to provide their own proof.
Frankly speaking, I was a player in this site as well long time ago but betchain also accused me of having more than 1 account which is completely wrong.
After that I have never came back to this site and fortunately I did not leave any balance when they accused me of multiple accounts.


I have posted here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betchain-takes-major-winnings-away-5257873

I am sorry to hear they screwed you over and it kinda takes away any hope they will correct this crap Sad
hero member
Activity: 899
Merit: 500
Hi Forcedtoreggy,
The fact is our fraud team discovered numerous accounts tied to yours. Our Terms and Conditions clearly state-"Each player can create only one (1) personal account. Creating multiple Player Accounts by a single player can lead to termination of all such accounts."

I think you'd be hard-pressed to find another casino returning the deposit amount to a player who clearly violated the Terms and Conditions.  It's interesting that you were prepared with all of your screenshots, like you've been through this before (as you mentioned with FJ).

We've been around since 2014, paying many winners on a daily basis.
legendary
Activity: 3500
Merit: 1354
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Hey,
the antifraud team decided that you had used several accounts on similar ips which is clear evidence of cheating. We have it in our T&C that players can't use multiple accounts. You are welcome to withdraw your initial deposit. We are more than happy to clarify anything else.


The only clear evidence of cheating here, is you guys pulling this crap.

I did not multiaccount and offered KYC which resolves any bullshit excuse. Hell I didnt even lose what I deposited into bonus, I started winning pretty much from the start. What you guys are doing is defrauding your users when they win big. Nothing more.

I withdrew my deposit back (why would you say I can keep playing without bonuses after pulling some shit like this?) and I will keep fighting to get what I rightfully won. Primedice seems to have know a rise in sites like your defrauding users, I just wish I listened before. smh.

If you think that you did not break any rules, you should open a scam accusation thread with all the proofs you have.
By this way, most members will take a look at your case and give their own opinion especially DT members.
If members think that you are on the right side then members will support you and it may force betchain to provide their own proof.
Frankly speaking, I was a player in this site as well long time ago but betchain also accused me of having more than 1 account which is completely wrong.
After that I have never came back to this site and fortunately I did not leave any balance when they accused me of multiple accounts.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
I had to come here to share my bad experience so far.

I registered a few days ago to try and see if I can get lucky with that big weclome package. I click activate on the login for the bonus, a small window pops up with the deposit address and a form to enter a bonus code.

I contacted chat support since I didnt understand what code I needed for the welcome bonus. I waited IDK how long and decided to just keep playing on FortuneJack since I was first in the queue yet it was taking forever.

A day or so later I decided to try contacting them again to try and get that bonus code. Took quite a while to get connected while being the only person contacting them lol Finally someone in chat. I ask them whats the bonus code and explain that I am trying to get that welcome bonus. He responds a bit rude and finally tells me that I simply have to deposit no need for the form. Well alrighty, odd layout for the site to ask that and expect me to know that.

I deposit .1294~ and I start checking out Amatic since it is my favorites for those big wins. I realize when checking my account info that the bonus requirements start immediately (I was used to FJ), but said screw it I'll just go for big .001MBTC bets. After I won a few thousand, I go check my progress towards the requirements and see I have a long way to go o.o but still lets me withdraw my original balance (guess I didnt even lose much before i started winning so it didnt lose the original deposit?). So i didnt even use any bonus balance lmfao at all.

I played for like 8 hours~ slowly but surely going up and up until I hit a $10000 win on Casanova. I almost s*** myself. Kept going since I still needed more but I knew I was close enough that I would end up winning big regardless.

I finally completed the bonus, placed my withdrawal, and see its going to manually reviewed. Im used to that for big wins at fortunejack so no problem. I go to bed happy as a mofo.

I wake up to see an email from them an hour after I placed my withdrawal. No withdrawal.

Apparently they claim I had more than one account on the IP address and they removed my winnings but left my original deposit, along with saying I cannot use any bonuses ever.

You can imagine how angry I was to see that. I replied a bit rude (sorry but really wtf??) asking how can they just claim that and steal my winnings. I guess it was too rude and no response was given nor my winnings still.

I once had that issue with fortunejack and it was cleared with a simple KYC. I dont understand how they can simply make that claim and just expect me not to be pissed.

EDIT:

I also noticed the latest winners were usually just me or tiny wins repeating the same thing. Kinda thinking they straight up dont have funds to pay out big wins right now


TLDR:
1.35086092 BTC withdrawal stolen and they gave back my deposit claiming I multiaccounted when I didnt



Pics of joy to hell:





https://i.gyazo.com/57374b9a9ec6566c707eec8593fb027e.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/386b2360087d7feb2208684e91993556.png
https://i.gyazo.com/5ed26d3b9c4d925c5a8759bb4c7aa3f9.png
https://i.gyazo.com/237b367f6fb33d73f4dd950c5961ac3e.png
https://i.gyazo.com/839ea6fe5d743b901aaf376dbab3af25.png


Hey,
the antifraud team decided that you had used several accounts on similar ips which is clear evidence of cheating. We have it in our T&C that players can't use multiple accounts. You are welcome to withdraw your initial deposit. We are more than happy to clarify anything else.


The only clear evidence of cheating here, is you guys pulling this crap.

I did not multiaccount and offered KYC which resolves any bullshit excuse. Hell I didnt even lose what I deposited into bonus, I started winning pretty much from the start. What you guys are doing is defrauding your users when they win big. Nothing more.

I withdrew my deposit back (why would you say I can keep playing without bonuses after pulling some shit like this?) and I will keep fighting to get what I rightfully won. Primedice seems to have know a rise in sites like your defrauding users, I just wish I listened before. smh.
hero member
Activity: 899
Merit: 500
I had to come here to share my bad experience so far.

I registered a few days ago to try and see if I can get lucky with that big weclome package. I click activate on the login for the bonus, a small window pops up with the deposit address and a form to enter a bonus code.

I contacted chat support since I didnt understand what code I needed for the welcome bonus. I waited IDK how long and decided to just keep playing on FortuneJack since I was first in the queue yet it was taking forever.

A day or so later I decided to try contacting them again to try and get that bonus code. Took quite a while to get connected while being the only person contacting them lol Finally someone in chat. I ask them whats the bonus code and explain that I am trying to get that welcome bonus. He responds a bit rude and finally tells me that I simply have to deposit no need for the form. Well alrighty, odd layout for the site to ask that and expect me to know that.

I deposit .1294~ and I start checking out Amatic since it is my favorites for those big wins. I realize when checking my account info that the bonus requirements start immediately (I was used to FJ), but said screw it I'll just go for big .001MBTC bets. After I won a few thousand, I go check my progress towards the requirements and see I have a long way to go o.o but still lets me withdraw my original balance (guess I didnt even lose much before i started winning so it didnt lose the original deposit?). So i didnt even use any bonus balance lmfao at all.

I played for like 8 hours~ slowly but surely going up and up until I hit a $10000 win on Casanova. I almost s*** myself. Kept going since I still needed more but I knew I was close enough that I would end up winning big regardless.

I finally completed the bonus, placed my withdrawal, and see its going to manually reviewed. Im used to that for big wins at fortunejack so no problem. I go to bed happy as a mofo.

I wake up to see an email from them an hour after I placed my withdrawal. No withdrawal.

Apparently they claim I had more than one account on the IP address and they removed my winnings but left my original deposit, along with saying I cannot use any bonuses ever.

You can imagine how angry I was to see that. I replied a bit rude (sorry but really wtf??) asking how can they just claim that and steal my winnings. I guess it was too rude and no response was given nor my winnings still.

I once had that issue with fortunejack and it was cleared with a simple KYC. I dont understand how they can simply make that claim and just expect me not to be pissed.

EDIT:

I also noticed the latest winners were usually just me or tiny wins repeating the same thing. Kinda thinking they straight up dont have funds to pay out big wins right now


TLDR:
1.35086092 BTC withdrawal stolen and they gave back my deposit claiming I multiaccounted when I didnt



Pics of joy to hell:












Hey,
the antifraud team decided that you had used several accounts on similar ips which is clear evidence of cheating. We have it in our T&C that players can't use multiple accounts. You are welcome to withdraw your initial deposit. We are more than happy to clarify anything else.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
These f******* a****** wont accept a KYC to prove I havent had any account before with them and they simply say :

https://i.gyazo.com/ac8bac5c1a33235ea0358a85dd4eb900.png



AVOID THIS SCAM SITE IM WITHDRAWING MY DEPOSIT BUT I AM STILL OWED A SHITTON MORE



EDIT:


Even mi withdrawal is delayed lol and they just keep saying administration said to steal my winnings and wont accept my kyc.


Hijos de.....

I dont understand how this site is still allowed on here if they do this stuff
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
I had to come here to share my bad experience so far.

I registered a few days ago to try and see if I can get lucky with that big weclome package. I click activate on the login for the bonus, a small window pops up with the deposit address and a form to enter a bonus code.

I contacted chat support since I didnt understand what code I needed for the welcome bonus. I waited IDK how long and decided to just keep playing on FortuneJack since I was first in the queue yet it was taking forever.

A day or so later I decided to try contacting them again to try and get that bonus code. Took quite a while to get connected while being the only person contacting them lol Finally someone in chat. I ask them whats the bonus code and explain that I am trying to get that welcome bonus. He responds a bit rude and finally tells me that I simply have to deposit no need for the form. Well alrighty, odd layout for the site to ask that and expect me to know that.

I deposit .1294~ and I start checking out Amatic since it is my favorites for those big wins. I realize when checking my account info that the bonus requirements start immediately (I was used to FJ), but said screw it I'll just go for big .001MBTC bets. After I won a few thousand, I go check my progress towards the requirements and see I have a long way to go o.o but still lets me withdraw my original balance (guess I didnt even lose much before i started winning so it didnt lose the original deposit?). So i didnt even use any bonus balance lmfao at all.

I played for like 8 hours~ slowly but surely going up and up until I hit a $10000 win on Casanova. I almost s*** myself. Kept going since I still needed more but I knew I was close enough that I would end up winning big regardless.

I finally completed the bonus, placed my withdrawal, and see its going to manually reviewed. Im used to that for big wins at fortunejack so no problem. I go to bed happy as a mofo.

I wake up to see an email from them an hour after I placed my withdrawal. No withdrawal.

Apparently they claim I had more than one account on the IP address and they removed my winnings but left my original deposit, along with saying I cannot use any bonuses ever.

You can imagine how angry I was to see that. I replied a bit rude (sorry but really wtf??) asking how can they just claim that and steal my winnings. I guess it was too rude and no response was given nor my winnings still.

I once had that issue with fortunejack and it was cleared with a simple KYC. I dont understand how they can simply make that claim and just expect me not to be pissed.

EDIT:

I also noticed the latest winners were usually just me or tiny wins repeating the same thing. Kinda thinking they straight up dont have funds to pay out big wins right now


TLDR:
1.35086092 BTC withdrawal stolen and they gave back my deposit claiming I multiaccounted when I didnt



Pics of joy to hell:





https://i.gyazo.com/57374b9a9ec6566c707eec8593fb027e.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/386b2360087d7feb2208684e91993556.png
https://i.gyazo.com/5ed26d3b9c4d925c5a8759bb4c7aa3f9.png
https://i.gyazo.com/237b367f6fb33d73f4dd950c5961ac3e.png
https://i.gyazo.com/839ea6fe5d743b901aaf376dbab3af25.png


Replied to that horrid email and it seems the ticket was closed without response and got reopened with the new reply. What the hell?
hero member
Activity: 899
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newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 0
I had to come here to share my bad experience so far.

I registered a few days ago to try and see if I can get lucky with that big weclome package. I click activate on the login for the bonus, a small window pops up with the deposit address and a form to enter a bonus code.

I contacted chat support since I didnt understand what code I needed for the welcome bonus. I waited IDK how long and decided to just keep playing on FortuneJack since I was first in the queue yet it was taking forever.

A day or so later I decided to try contacting them again to try and get that bonus code. Took quite a while to get connected while being the only person contacting them lol Finally someone in chat. I ask them whats the bonus code and explain that I am trying to get that welcome bonus. He responds a bit rude and finally tells me that I simply have to deposit no need for the form. Well alrighty, odd layout for the site to ask that and expect me to know that.

I deposit .1294~ and I start checking out Amatic since it is my favorites for those big wins. I realize when checking my account info that the bonus requirements start immediately (I was used to FJ), but said screw it I'll just go for big .001MBTC bets. After I won a few thousand, I go check my progress towards the requirements and see I have a long way to go o.o but still lets me withdraw my original balance (guess I didnt even lose much before i started winning so it didnt lose the original deposit?). So i didnt even use any bonus balance lmfao at all.

I played for like 8 hours~ slowly but surely going up and up until I hit a $10000 win on Casanova. I almost s*** myself. Kept going since I still needed more but I knew I was close enough that I would end up winning big regardless.

I finally completed the bonus, placed my withdrawal, and see its going to manually reviewed. Im used to that for big wins at fortunejack so no problem. I go to bed happy as a mofo.

I wake up to see an email from them an hour after I placed my withdrawal. No withdrawal.

Apparently they claim I had more than one account on the IP address and they removed my winnings but left my original deposit, along with saying I cannot use any bonuses ever.

You can imagine how angry I was to see that. I replied a bit rude (sorry but really wtf??) asking how can they just claim that and steal my winnings. I guess it was too rude and no response was given nor my winnings still.

I once had that issue with fortunejack and it was cleared with a simple KYC. I dont understand how they can simply make that claim and just expect me not to be pissed.

EDIT:

I also noticed the latest winners were usually just me or tiny wins repeating the same thing. Kinda thinking they straight up dont have funds to pay out big wins right now


TLDR:
1.35086092 BTC withdrawal stolen and they gave back my deposit claiming I multiaccounted when I didnt



Pics of joy to hell:





https://i.gyazo.com/57374b9a9ec6566c707eec8593fb027e.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/386b2360087d7feb2208684e91993556.png
https://i.gyazo.com/5ed26d3b9c4d925c5a8759bb4c7aa3f9.png
https://i.gyazo.com/237b367f6fb33d73f4dd950c5961ac3e.png
https://i.gyazo.com/839ea6fe5d743b901aaf376dbab3af25.png
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hero member
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Hi Negotiation,

KYC is an industry standard.  I'm not sure what other personal information you are referring to...here is a link of docs we may require- https://www.betchain.com/documents

We pay our non-fraudulent winners quickly at BetChain.
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Hire Bitcointalk Camp. Manager @ r7promotions.com
iam winning 1.7 ltc and request cashout, but this casino ask me to uppload id and selfie and residence proof and statement bank deposit and withdrawal method??? they try to cheating?Huh iam playing with LTC not usd or euro. this strange iam not found bitcoin casino ask residence proof statement bank and uploud deposit and withdrawal method like a deposit using usd or eoru. I HAVE UPPLOAD ID AND SELFIE. and if this casino still not pay my winning i will inform this again here.
not a secret!!!! this casino will not pay you. after you send id or selfie then they will make other reason like you have duplicate account or they will ask you should send other document and many reason to not pay you. trust me! its will be their reason to not paid. this is scam casino. i will waiting you inform in this thread if they realy paid you after you send id and selfie.

The only reason for KYC in casino games is usually to determine their age But if they want all the personal information it is better to stay away from it. They use such tactics to scam I agree with you it is better to wait to keep your wallet right.
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