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anyone else had a recent withdrawal, that "required management review and approval"? Was told it was because it was a "large amount" (0.6BTC)... been waiting 7 hours

withdrawal received
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anyone else had a recent withdrawal, that "required management review and approval"? Was told it was because it was a "large amount" (0.6BTC)... been waiting 7 hours

I've had that many times before. Even 1 or 2 months ago. It's normal, don't worry you will receive the funds.
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anyone else had a recent withdrawal, that "required management review and approval"? Was told it was because it was a "large amount" (0.6BTC)... been waiting 7 hours
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Couple takeaways from those loltastic Randall chats.

First he says "I am in training for a new position with Betcoin that will render me capable of having an a effect on future decisions. We are serious about improvement with player relations and support."

then he says "I have the same quesion and am told it will be revealed soon".

So his claim is that he's being trained for a new position with Betcoin, but they haven't told him what that position will be or anything about what it will entail. 

WHAT?

Also I've never, in the 5+ years I've known about him, seen him type like he did when he pretended to be a one armed, handicapped dyslexic.  He's always typed coherently and correctly. 

Also also, Betcoin is training a one armed, handicapped, dyslexic man to be in upper management.  Kind of tells you all you need to know, doesn't it?

Also also also their training is so vague and horrible that he doesn't even know anything about the position that he's supposed to be training for.

Also also also also, where's the BBJ money?
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Betcoin,

Is there a chance you can increase the maximum bet default from 100mBTC to a higher amount (for example 200mBTC) because Bitcoin value has dropped so much recently? Now the max stake on any live event equals just 700 euro and that is a bit low to be honest.

Certainly. The book is still in Beta, so we are testing out everything including limits.

You've been using an UltraPlay book for over a year now. How is it possible that it is in beta, despite it being a fully working book developed by a different provider?
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plo8monster: really ?? insult ?? i am trying to be genuine with you ...you have insulted me repeatedly, I work for the site and im a pretty nice person, so i dont hurl insults at you ... your request are posted plenty of times on the forum and that should be sufficient.
22:43pmtwitchyseal: You've been super disrespectful to me
22:43pmtwitchyseal: but it's cool
22:43pmtwitchyseal: lets work to make betcoin better, k?
22:44pmtwitchyseal: I guess to be fair, I kind of lump it together when your son treats me like shit
22:46pmtwitchyseal: maybe I should blame you less for that, but you I haven't forgotten the promise you made me when Betcoin shorted me ~$2,000 in rakeback a couple years ago
21:46pm plo8monster: Yes thats a good idea. I am in training for a new position with Betcoin that will render me capable of having an a effect on future decisions. We are serious about improvement with player relations and support. The new upper managemnt have my full support in this effort, and i feel it is long overdue as im sure oyu do also
22:47pmtwitchyseal: ok, cool, what is the name of the position you are training for?
21:47pm plo8monster: as for z he is younger and wittier than i am.... oyu two have to work that out, but ill speak with him
21:48pm plo8monster: as for your question of postion, it will have nothing to do with the poker site
22:48pmtwitchyseal: Are you trying to be a polition?
21:48pm plo8monster: I have spent a decade trying to get a crypto option for poker for players after the government shut down the big 3 ...
22:49pmtwitchyseal: politician*
21:49pm plo8monster: hah helll no
21:49pm plo8monster: I kinda hate politicians im not even a hater but they bring out the qworst in me
22:49pmtwitchyseal: "What position are you being trained for" "Well, here's the position I'm NOT training for"
22:49pmtwitchyseal: kinda political response no?
22:50pmtwitchyseal: Do you mind if I ask again?
21:50pm plo8monster: Im not going to answer you i gacve you the best answer i could for now /... please dont needle me over it
22:50pmtwitchyseal: jeez
21:50pm plo8monster: you can rest easy it wont be over poker
plo8monster: I have the same quesion and am told it will be revealed soon .... i know it wont be those of us who you have lambasted ..... and im ok with that, so long as players have a place to play i dont have to be a part of it other than being a player myself
22:53pmtwitchyseal: Well, if you're working for Betcoin, you really shouldn't be playing at Betcoin
22:54pmtwitchyseal: Conflict of interest and all, right?
21:54pm plo8monster: I apologize for not being more aggressive in past with betcoin over poker issues, and for that i have failed the players. Im not great at apologies, because id my very bets at all times, but i admit i fialed players, howevr partly because it had no authority other than mderation of forum with out tools to work with
22:55pmtwitchyseal: I agree
22:55pmtwitchyseal: respect the fact you can finally admit that, sad it took so many years


Gonna bring special attention to this part:

21:56pm plo8monster: oh by the way i saw you post some thing abotu me being drunk all thw time do oyu realize mmy typing is due to a handicap, and i do NOT dirnk for over 16 years now
21:56pm plo8monster: I ma sevrely dilexic with a crushed left hand and nerve damge in right hand
22:57pmtwitchyseal: I wasn't accusing you because of the way you typed, only the things you were typing
21:57pm plo8monster: plus i am alwsy multitasking and dont take time to edit typs
22:58pmtwitchyseal: You just typed over 600 characters with no real mistakes, then this: "plo8monster: oh by the way i saw you post some thing abotu me being drunk all thw time do oyu realize mmy typing is due to a handicap, and i do NOT dirnk for over 16 years now plo8monster: I ma sevrely dilexic with a crushed left hand and nerve damge in right hand plo8monster: plus i am alwsy multitasking and dont take time to edit typs"
22:58pmtwitchyseal: give me a break
22:1pm plo8monster: Im trying to reach out to genuinely tiwtchy, please dont make it difficult
23:1pmtwitchyseal: quit faking/exaggerating being handicapped
23:1pmtwitchyseal: not cool
23:2pmtwitchyseal: I will work with you, but I will always call you out
22:2pm plo8monster: .your insulting me and i dont approve of that
22:2pm plo8monster: shoukld i? is that ok ?
23:2pmtwitchyseal: " plo8monster: I ma sevrely dilexic with a crushed left hand and nerve damge in right hand"
23:3pmtwitchyseal: this just happens to be the most messed up sentence you've typed all night?
23:3pmtwitchyseal: just a coincidence?

23:3pmtwitchyseal: you're insulting me if you expect me to fall for that
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plo8monster: twitchy i don't have time to be trolled by you today ... i simply helped test the client for features if they work or not ...Bitcoin.ag will not be providing the management or support for the new site. Many players have complained about you lately, and your constant badgering. However, Betcoin is tolerating it (even though i dont approve) and even welcomes your feedback. You have a chance to do something good here. But ya seem to insist on the troll ... how bout ya chill a little bit and allow us breathing room to make this happen for the players who want poker returned. We understand your brilliant, but your demeanor adds so much difficulty, I choose not to be any part of it. The community has had a belly full of it. You say your all about improving the site, but your actions make me question your motives.
If you insist on some smart ass reply to this comment, dont waste your time or mine please
3:33amtwitchyseal: Could you please ask Betcoin to sign a message proving they have the 43 BTC - This isn't an attack on Betcoin, it
3:34amtwitchyseal: 's a very reasonable request that will only help them
3:34amtwitchyseal: (I will do my best to continue to ignore you and your sons personal insults)
3:36amtwitchyseal: "Bitcoin.ag will not be providing the management or support for the new site" <---this needs some attention also
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plo8monster: i will add that to the list of questions on new poker site ...which by the way is pretty damn close now.... we have been testing features some still need attention but 90% of them are working excellent so far ..... im pretty excited about this:)
2:35amffffffffff: is poker back?
2:35am plo8monster: did ya see what i just posted ^^very close
2:36am plo8monster: Im not about to give a date, not after it has been moved several times.... but close very close
21:47pmtwitchyseal: who is "we"
21:47pmtwitchyseal: I thought you and your son were just mods and nothing more
21:47pmtwitchyseal: really getting sick of the run around
21:48pmtwitchyseal: who are "the great poker minds" who betcoin has been working with?
21:48pmtwitchyseal: why won't Betcoin sign a message that proves they have the BBJP funds?
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What the hell.

Why won't you explain why you are refusing to sign an address to prove you have the BBJP funds?
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Betcoin,

Is there a chance you can increase the maximum bet default from 100mBTC to a higher amount (for example 200mBTC) because Bitcoin value has dropped so much recently? Now the max stake on any live event equals just 700 euro and that is a bit low to be honest.

Certainly. The book is still in Beta, so we are testing out everything including limits.
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Betcoin,

Is there a chance you can increase the maximum bet default from 100mBTC to a higher amount (for example 200mBTC) because Bitcoin value has dropped so much recently? Now the max stake on any live event equals just 700 euro and that is a bit low to be honest.
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Honestly, signing a message doesn't prove anything except that they know someone who has 43 BTC and they're willing to pay the transaction fee to move it to a separate wallet and sign on Betcoin's behalf. It doesn't prove that Betcoin owns the wallet.

However, their refusal to sign tells me that the funds are not segregated (if they exist at all). What is the harm in signing a message when it doesn't really show anything? Nothing, unless 1) you can't actually come up with 43 BTC, even if it doesn't belong to you or 2) they don't want to show an address that had its balance go from zero to 43 BTC a couple days ago because that would show that the funds hadn't been segregated all along.

The only way that Betcoin can "prove" anything is by shipping 43 BTC to the BBJ winner. To be honest, all of this delay is probably because they're having issues with the code that will let them pre-select the BBJ winner so that they can redistribute the funds among themselves at a later date while not having technically "stolen" anything.  

Betcoin does not code the poker software. The software is provided by IG Soft, the same people who do the software for all other WPN skins. We do have have access to any of the code, which is a big part of why we were unable to get the exact figures for the original BBJ payout method. We expect poker to launch very soon, possible even today and the new BBJ rules will be stated. The funds are ready to be paid out to the winners.

You aren't a WPN skin, you are a WTN skin.

Also, where's the money?

Also, where's the work that you claimed to do for three weeks?

Also also, where's the money?
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Honestly, signing a message doesn't prove anything except that they know someone who has 43 BTC and they're willing to pay the transaction fee to move it to a separate wallet and sign on Betcoin's behalf. It doesn't prove that Betcoin owns the wallet.

However, their refusal to sign tells me that the funds are not segregated (if they exist at all). What is the harm in signing a message when it doesn't really show anything? Nothing, unless 1) you can't actually come up with 43 BTC, even if it doesn't belong to you or 2) they don't want to show an address that had its balance go from zero to 43 BTC a couple days ago because that would show that the funds hadn't been segregated all along.

The only way that Betcoin can "prove" anything is by shipping 43 BTC to the BBJ winner. To be honest, all of this delay is probably because they're having issues with the code that will let them pre-select the BBJ winner so that they can redistribute the funds among themselves at a later date while not having technically "stolen" anything.  

Betcoin does not code the poker software. The software is provided by IG Soft, the same people who do the software for all other WPN skins. We do have have access to any of the code, which is a big part of why we were unable to get the exact figures for the original BBJ payout method. We expect poker to launch very soon, possible even today and the new BBJ rules will be stated. The funds are ready to be paid out to the winners.
Honestly, signing a message doesn't prove anything except that they know someone who has 43 BTC and they're willing to pay the transaction fee to move it to a separate wallet and sign on Betcoin's behalf. It doesn't prove that Betcoin owns the wallet.

However, their refusal to sign tells me that the funds are not segregated (if they exist at all). What is the harm in signing a message when it doesn't really show anything? Nothing, unless 1) you can't actually come up with 43 BTC, even if it doesn't belong to you or 2) they don't want to show an address that had its balance go from zero to 43 BTC a couple days ago because that would show that the funds hadn't been segregated all along.

The only way that Betcoin can "prove" anything is by shipping 43 BTC to the BBJ winner. To be honest, all of this delay is probably because they're having issues with the code that will let them pre-select the BBJ winner so that they can redistribute the funds among themselves at a later date while not having technically "stolen" anything.  

Betcoin does not code the poker software. The software is provided by IG Soft, the same people who do the software for all other WPN skins. We do have have access to any of the code, which is a big part of why we were unable to get the exact figures for the original BBJ payout method. We expect poker to launch very soon, possible even today and the new BBJ rules will be stated. The funds are ready to be paid out to the winners.

You forgot to respond to the signed message stuff.

Does IGSoft have all the money too?
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Honestly, signing a message doesn't prove anything except that they know someone who has 43 BTC and they're willing to pay the transaction fee to move it to a separate wallet and sign on Betcoin's behalf. It doesn't prove that Betcoin owns the wallet.

However, their refusal to sign tells me that the funds are not segregated (if they exist at all). What is the harm in signing a message when it doesn't really show anything? Nothing, unless 1) you can't actually come up with 43 BTC, even if it doesn't belong to you or 2) they don't want to show an address that had its balance go from zero to 43 BTC a couple days ago because that would show that the funds hadn't been segregated all along.

The only way that Betcoin can "prove" anything is by shipping 43 BTC to the BBJ winner. To be honest, all of this delay is probably because they're having issues with the code that will let them pre-select the BBJ winner so that they can redistribute the funds among themselves at a later date while not having technically "stolen" anything.  

Betcoin does not code the poker software. The software is provided by IG Soft, the same people who do the software for all other WPN skins. We do have have access to any of the code, which is a big part of why we were unable to get the exact figures for the original BBJ payout method. We expect poker to launch very soon, possible even today and the new BBJ rules will be stated. The funds are ready to be paid out to the winners.
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Honestly, signing a message doesn't prove anything except that they know someone who has 43 BTC and they're willing to pay the transaction fee to move it to a separate wallet and sign on Betcoin's behalf. It doesn't prove that Betcoin owns the wallet.

However, their refusal to sign tells me that the funds are not segregated (if they exist at all). What is the harm in signing a message when it doesn't really show anything? Nothing, unless 1) you can't actually come up with 43 BTC, even if it doesn't belong to you or 2) they don't want to show an address that had its balance go from zero to 43 BTC a couple days ago because that would show that the funds hadn't been segregated all along.

The only way that Betcoin can "prove" anything is by shipping 43 BTC to the BBJ winner. To be honest, all of this delay is probably because they're having issues with the code that will let them pre-select the BBJ winner so that they can redistribute the funds among themselves at a later date while not having technically "stolen" anything.  
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I'm pretty sure we can gather some coins here to buy you guys a Trezor or a Ledger so you can sign that for us  Smiley
If the security part is the problem you're having  Smiley
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Sounds like Machen really doesn't want you to say his name anymore.

Not that Machen seems to be doing anything about it except giving you about a dozen final warnings.
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zzzzzz: You're clueless. Its quite funny.
11:47pmtwitchyseal: kinda rude man
11:47pm zzzzzz: Don't say my name :)
11:47pm zzzzzz: I said dont speak to me.
11:47pm zzzzzz: Also, not my fault you dont know how to sign a message.
11:47pmtwitchyseal: i do
11:47pm zzzzzz: If youd like some help shoot me a message 21.co/machen
11:48pm BigThangz: ReRun expects nordstroms service while he service up Walmart products
11:48pm zzzzzz: Whats wrong with `# signmessage ? ` bhahahaha
11:48pm zzzzzz: what a noob
11:57pmtwitchyseal: hey zzzzzzz after you learn how basic encryption works/how you can sign a message with a bitcoin address, you should check out relational databases - much better option than spreadsheets
11:58pmtwitchyseal: take your time on the signing messages blog though
12:01am zzzzzz: twitchyseal, Im not going to ask you again. Do not speak directly to me.
12:01am zzzzzz: You have no need to speak to me. You can speak with support.
12:02amtwitchyseal: I'm glad you won't ask me again, you've asked me at least 10 times just today
12:02amtwitchyseal: still curious though, why?
12:03am zzzzzz: Look -- If you dont listen to the mods there will be consequences. Got it?
12:03am zzzzzz: End of conversation.
12:03am zzzzzz: Do not speak to me.
12:03amtwitchyseal: no
12:03am zzzzzz: /closes rhetorical statement
12:03amtwitchyseal: I will not stop speaking to you zzzzzz
12:03am zzzzzz: For those that wish to play poker and enjoy the experience.. direct your attention to twitchy who is now delaying efforts.
12:03amtwitchyseal: have I made myself clear?
12:04am zzzzzz: You forget.. You dont run anything here twitchy.
12:04am zzzzzz: This isnt your house to be disrespectful in.
12:04amtwitchyseal: whos house is it?
12:04am zzzzzz: Do not speak to me.
12:04amtwitchyseal: you are such a liar zzzzzz
12:05amtwitchyseal: zzzzzz: twitchyseal, Im not going to ask you again. Do not speak directly to me.
12:05amtwitchyseal: (3 minutes later)
12:05amtwitchyseal: zzzzzz: Do not speak to me.
12:05amtwitchyseal: stop speaking if you don't want to be spoken to
12:06am zzzzzz: http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/question.htm
12:07am zzzzzz: Note to players: Don't tell the mods to stop talking.
12:08amtwitchyseal: unless they don't want to be talked to
12:08amtwitchyseal: then you should probably tell them
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Damn you got THREE final warnings.
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lol

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twitchyseal: It's a very simple request
13:58pmtwitchyseal: and surely you realize refusing to prove you have the funds will not look good
13:56pm Support David: I understand your view on it and you have that right and feel free to continue asking. I am just trying to give you a transparent answer.
12:58pm zzzzzz: Rays8888 its only been hit once that was a few years ago. You can see the article that all this hoopla is here: https://www.betcoin.ag/apology-bad-beat-jackpot-distribution-and-discussion-future-betcoinag
12:58pm zzzzzz: +1 D
13:59pmtwitchyseal: So the reason Betcoin won't sign a message proving they have the 43BTC jackpot is " Caving into every demand sets a bad precedent. "
13:59pmtwitchyseal: ?
9:59amRays8888: ohhh so it was hit for 43BTC, but now shit got all shady?
13:59pmtwitchyseal: no, ray
13:58pm Support David: I am pretty sure you are well aware we have considerably more than 43 BTC. People have won and lost that in 1 day here.
14:0pmtwitchyseal: they shut down poker on Christmas and made a statement saying they wouldn't be honoring the BBJP
14:0pmtwitchyseal: they they apologized and said they would be distributing the BBJP to players based on what they contributed the first week in Jan
10:1amRays8888: how much had been paid into it?
10:1amRays8888: oh i see
13:1pm zzzzzz: You can google twitchyseal if you want to see his campaign on hate of betcoin.. Ive been here since Dec 2013 and payouts have always been made... New owners tookever and paying out the BBJ wasnt properly discussed until after the fact. Now they are deaaling with the headache.
14:1pmtwitchyseal: then they said they would be posting new BBJP rules on Jan 22 reopening the poker room on Jan 26
14:1pmtwitchyseal: now it's Feb 1
13:1pm zzzzzz: Week of
13:2pm zzzzzz: Then provided several updates as to the delays.
13:2pm zzzzzz: Again, twitchy just showing his ass.
14:0pm Support David: We are going as fast as we can, Twitchy. No reason to drag this out. As you can imagine that wait is not pleasant for us either
13:2pm zzzzzz: ^
14:2pmtwitchyseal: no need to be rude zzz
14:1pm Support David: The latest I have heard is that several staff members will be testing the poker today for bugs. It should open shortly after
10:3amRays8888: something like 40% of the worlds population lives on less than 3 dollars a day, we all here are ok
13:3pm zzzzzz: no need to speak my name twitchyseal. Stop using it or Ill request ban.
13:3pm zzzzzz: True rays
14:3pmtwitchyseal: request ban zzz
14:3pmtwitchyseal: they appreciate me
13:3pm zzzzzz: Why so you can cry that you were banned for bringing the truth?
10:3amRays8888: the fact that we can just throw away money in hopes of winning some sum so we can buy more bs we dont need
13:3pm zzzzzz: Instead of banned for not following moderator requests/
14:4pmtwitchyseal: lol
13:4pm zzzzzz: Thanks for understanding. Don't say my name here in chat or on the forums any further. Thanks! Final warning.
14:4pmtwitchyseal: zzz
13:4pm zzzzzz: ^children
14:4pmtwitchyseal: chill out bro
13:5pm zzzzzz: Thanks for understanding. Don't say my name here in chat or on the forums any further. Thanks! Final warning.
13:5pm zzzzzz: I am not your bro.
14:5pmtwitchyseal: there's no rule against saying zzzzzz
14:3pm Support David: Anyone have any additional questions before I go?
13:5pm zzzzzz: Process ETH cashout please?
13:5pm zzzzzz: Theres a pending!
14:5pmtwitchyseal: Can you please unmod zzzzzz?
13:5pm zzzzzz: Thanks for understanding. Don't say my name here in chat or on the forums any further. Thanks! Final warning.
10:5amRays8888: ive been on 5+ sportsbook and always been paid, i believe some offshore sportsbook/casinos give their jackpots to their sons for their annual stipend isnt new news to me, as long as what i request in payout is paid, whatever, world dun been corrupt
14:5pmtwitchyseal: powertrip
14:4pm Support David: Done, zzzzzz
14:5pmtwitchyseal: ty
13:6pm zzzzzz: world dun been corrupt
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