^That is the difference between bitcoin and fiat, that is the difference between crypto casinos and traditional casinos. With bitcoin you know that you are getting a decentralized currency that couldn't be shaped however governments (or any central identity) could use to make rich people richer, with fiat they know what to do and bail out rich corporations with 20+ million bonus getting CEO's and their shareholders whereas people who are in trouble gets nothing at all.
Same goes with crypto casinos, we have provably fair and we know that casino will not screw us over, we can actually prove it, they can't even if they wanted to. That is a huge difference where you do not have to trust anyone to play, you just need to check the provably fair part. Whereas in a regular casino you go to, they could do anything they want.
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June 30, 2020, 12:22:58 PM
June 30, 2020, 09:20:12 AM
It looks like the onetouch games are provably fair, but the playbetr dice game is not for 2 reasons:
1) As others have recently said, there's no explanation on how the result is determined from hashing (256 or 512?) the server seed and player seed. For example, for this bet: https://www.betcoin.ag/transaction/59942673
Hashed server seed: 50f107cf159cddcd327dac23bddb8c4b0bdc545d5ed2514acce4652bf46b8462
Server seed: d61876a22c06d144dae10d8e2fcbb79ea1c98b0afa9bf87f03c0de16609e035b
Client seed: twitchyseed
Result: 29.15
hmac-512(server seed, player seed) returns this string: cd4a384abce5a10ca201bf1017c39200985f44caf5f8b3b5785a8fafe8a6f61bac356a4285f7817 40b944616ecab84c9569bf5e26caac872fddf70b05a562e24
You have to explain how you get 42.47 from that string. provablyfair.co doesn't explain anything so it's not any help. Most dice sites do something like take the first 5 characters of the string and convert them to a decimal. I tried a few other sites methods without success so you must be doing something different (or I could've screwed something up).
2) You aren't using the server seed that you hash and provide before the bet. This defeats the entire purpose of provably fair since you can't prove that the server seed was determined before the bet was made.
I took a screen shot before making the bet from the example above:
You're not using the seed that's hashed and displayed under Next Round. The actual hashed server seed for the next round was 50f107cf159cddcd327dac23bddb8c4b0bdc545d5ed2514acce4652bf46b8462. I did this several times and the Next Round Hashed Server Seed was never used in the next round.
Providing the hashed server seed before the round proves that you didn't change it before knowing what my bet would be.
I'm don't know much php but in the code you posted, if that's the order the functions are executing then you're setting serverSeed and hashing it aftergetting clientSeed (the player seed). For it to be provably fair you have to prove that serverSeed was set before fetching clientSeed.
Also, it's impossible to copy the Next Round Hashed Server Seed. The copy button doesn't work, can't right click/ctrl + v/etc and it's in an i-frame so I can't even access the html to copy it. It does let me paste in the server seed field though...weird.
Edit: I checked the provably fair playbtr roulette and it's using the hashed seed that's displayed for next round - so it's just the dice game with that's not using it.
1) As others have recently said, there's no explanation on how the result is determined from hashing (256 or 512?) the server seed and player seed. For example, for this bet: https://www.betcoin.ag/transaction/59942673
Hashed server seed: 50f107cf159cddcd327dac23bddb8c4b0bdc545d5ed2514acce4652bf46b8462
Server seed: d61876a22c06d144dae10d8e2fcbb79ea1c98b0afa9bf87f03c0de16609e035b
Client seed: twitchyseed
Result: 29.15
hmac-512(server seed, player seed) returns this string: cd4a384abce5a10ca201bf1017c39200985f44caf5f8b3b5785a8fafe8a6f61bac356a4285f7817 40b944616ecab84c9569bf5e26caac872fddf70b05a562e24
You have to explain how you get 42.47 from that string. provablyfair.co doesn't explain anything so it's not any help. Most dice sites do something like take the first 5 characters of the string and convert them to a decimal. I tried a few other sites methods without success so you must be doing something different (or I could've screwed something up).
2) You aren't using the server seed that you hash and provide before the bet. This defeats the entire purpose of provably fair since you can't prove that the server seed was determined before the bet was made.
I took a screen shot before making the bet from the example above:
You're not using the seed that's hashed and displayed under Next Round. The actual hashed server seed for the next round was 50f107cf159cddcd327dac23bddb8c4b0bdc545d5ed2514acce4652bf46b8462. I did this several times and the Next Round Hashed Server Seed was never used in the next round.
Providing the hashed server seed before the round proves that you didn't change it before knowing what my bet would be.
I'm don't know much php but in the code you posted, if that's the order the functions are executing then you're setting serverSeed and hashing it aftergetting clientSeed (the player seed). For it to be provably fair you have to prove that serverSeed was set before fetching clientSeed.
Code:
$provable = Gamebetr\Provable::init()
// returns an instance of Gamebetr\Provable
setClientSeed(string $clientSeed = null)
This sets the client seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getClientSeed()
This returns the current client seed.
setServerSeed(string $serverSeed = null)
This sets the server seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getServerSeed()
This returns the current server seed.
getHashedServerSeed()
This returns the hashed version of the server seed.
Also, it's impossible to copy the Next Round Hashed Server Seed. The copy button doesn't work, can't right click/ctrl + v/etc and it's in an i-frame so I can't even access the html to copy it. It does let me paste in the server seed field though...weird.
Edit: I checked the provably fair playbtr roulette and it's using the hashed seed that's displayed for next round - so it's just the dice game with that's not using it.
This is excellent feedback. Exactly what we were looking for when we made our feedback thread. We will report this matter and have it resolved as soon as possible.
June 30, 2020, 03:39:16 AM
Educational posts over the last week or so on Provably Fair algorithms. I think a lot of traditional providers do not understand the concept of this crypto gambling idea that everyone should be able to prove on their own that the algos used in the games can be verified and proven. They still think only if the result can be done on another site it is enough:)
Well done to all of you,,, keep our provably fair community healthy:)
Well done to all of you,,, keep our provably fair community healthy:)
June 29, 2020, 10:50:15 PM
Are these games provably fair?
Thank you for the great feedback! We will be re-categorizing these shortly.
Edit: This has been updated. We have added a bonus to your account to thank you for your diligence. Best of luck to you!
It looks like the onetouch games are provably fair, but the playbetr dice game is not for 2 reasons:
1) As others have recently said, there's no explanation on how the result is determined from hashing (256 or 512?) the server seed and player seed. For example, for this bet: https://www.betcoin.ag/transaction/59942673
Hashed server seed: 50f107cf159cddcd327dac23bddb8c4b0bdc545d5ed2514acce4652bf46b8462
Server seed: d61876a22c06d144dae10d8e2fcbb79ea1c98b0afa9bf87f03c0de16609e035b
Client seed: twitchyseed
Result: 29.15
hmac-512(server seed, player seed) returns this string: cd4a384abce5a10ca201bf1017c39200985f44caf5f8b3b5785a8fafe8a6f61bac356a4285f7817 40b944616ecab84c9569bf5e26caac872fddf70b05a562e24
You have to explain how you get 42.47 from that string. provablyfair.co doesn't explain anything so it's not any help. Most dice sites do something like take the first 5 characters of the string and convert them to a decimal. I tried a few other sites methods without success so you must be doing something different (or I could've screwed something up).
2) You aren't using the server seed that you hash and provide before the bet. This defeats the entire purpose of provably fair since you can't prove that the server seed was determined before the bet was made.
I took a screen shot before making the bet from the example above:
You're not using the seed that's hashed and displayed under Next Round. The actual hashed server seed for the next round was 50f107cf159cddcd327dac23bddb8c4b0bdc545d5ed2514acce4652bf46b8462. I did this several times and the Next Round Hashed Server Seed was never used in the next round.
Providing the hashed server seed before the round proves that you didn't change it before knowing what my bet would be.
I'm don't know much php but in the code you posted, if that's the order the functions are executing then you're setting serverSeed and hashing it aftergetting clientSeed (the player seed). For it to be provably fair you have to prove that serverSeed was set before fetching clientSeed.
Code:
$provable = Gamebetr\Provable::init()
// returns an instance of Gamebetr\Provable
setClientSeed(string $clientSeed = null)
This sets the client seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getClientSeed()
This returns the current client seed.
setServerSeed(string $serverSeed = null)
This sets the server seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getServerSeed()
This returns the current server seed.
getHashedServerSeed()
This returns the hashed version of the server seed.
Also, it's impossible to copy the Next Round Hashed Server Seed. The copy button doesn't work, can't right click/ctrl + v/etc and it's in an i-frame so I can't even access the html to copy it. It does let me paste in the server seed field though...weird.
Edit: I checked the provably fair playbtr roulette and it's using the hashed seed that's displayed for next round - so it's just the dice game with that's not using it.
June 29, 2020, 10:10:06 AM
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21:00 - 29/06/20 - International: Matchups
This 10-round Junior Welterweight battle of the titans will take place at MGM Grand in Las Vegas, USA. Originally scheduled as an undercard in April, these 2 fighters will now be the main event Monday night, as part of this summer series event. Saucedo is a big favorite, but he was the same in November 2018, when he got dropped in the 7th round by the underdog, Maurice Hooker. He is now working with Pedro Neme, an Argentine-born trainer, and hopes to avenge that surprising loss and bring his record up to a remarkable 30-1. But Sonny Fredrickson is not going to go down without a fight. Literally. Sporting a 21-2 of his own, this Toledo native has the height and reach advantage in this bout. He, too, will be looking to get momentum back on his side, after a crushing decision loss to Samuel Teah in November. This fight is closer than it looks on paper. Both fighters are looking for a big win to help shine a spotlight on their talents and be able to move onto more prestigious events...
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June 29, 2020, 08:36:22 AM
Are these games provably fair?
Thank you for the great feedback! We will be re-categorizing these shortly.
Edit: This has been updated. We have added a bonus to your account to thank you for your diligence. Best of luck to you!
June 28, 2020, 12:47:32 PM
Who's the provider, playbetr or onetouch? Is onetouch avoiding trouble with Malta by providing for playbetr (licensed in curacao) who then provides for you (no license)?
Either way, they're Onetouch games, and all the slots you have listed under provably fair belong somewhere else.
The table games are what Onetouch claims to be provably fair, not the slots. I haven't looked into those yet but yoloer808 seems to be on the right track.
We have provably fair games from multiple providers. The game which was inquired about was Gamebetr provably fair dice. This is not a OneTouch game and we will be releasing more Gamebetr PF games in the near future.
Are these games provably fair?
https://www.betcoin.ag/casino/provably-fair
June 28, 2020, 12:36:19 PM
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The Pocono 350 is part of a series of races in Long Pond, Pennsylvania, USA, which includes the Pocono Organics 325 the prior day. The 350 mile race consists of 140 laps and was first raced in 1974 under the name Purolator 500. The inaguaral contest was won by racing legend Richard Petty. Jeff Gordon is the all-time winner at Pocono with six wins and Denny Hamlin tied Bill Elliott for 2nd on that list in 2019. Hamlin is a slight dog to Kyle Busch in our h2h betting and could be a good value bet. The driver with the best pole position in the 2020 event is Ryan Preece and Busch will be starting 3rd. The race will be broadcast live for television on FS1 and to listen on Sirius XM NASCAR Radio.
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June 28, 2020, 12:34:56 PM
Who's the provider, playbetr or onetouch? Is onetouch avoiding trouble with Malta by providing for playbetr (licensed in curacao) who then provides for you (no license)?
Either way, they're Onetouch games, and all the slots you have listed under provably fair belong somewhere else.
The table games are what Onetouch claims to be provably fair, not the slots. I haven't looked into those yet but yoloer808 seems to be on the right track.
We have provably fair games from multiple providers. The game which was inquired about was Gamebetr provably fair dice. This is not a OneTouch game and we will be releasing more Gamebetr PF games in the near future.
June 28, 2020, 10:27:56 AM
Again, you do not show the algorithm with which you calculate results, so the game is unverifiable and therefore not provably fair.
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
While I generally agree that you should not need to have a 3rd party site show that you are fair, this really is the same as having 3rd party auditors do your RNG, which is the traditional model for casinos so yeah I agree, PF should be independent on your own as the players.
I admit I haven't tried to see how this works at Betcoin though. Let's see if they come back with an explanation.
We have contacted the game provider Gamebetr and following is the algorithm and instructions on how to set it up yourself. It is the same code that is on www.provablyfair.co and we are told that the full instructions will be added to the website soon. Please let us know if you have additional questions anytime.
Provable
This package provides the means to create provably fair random numbers and provably fair random shuffles.
Installation
via composer:
composer require gamebetr/provable ^1.0
Basic Useage
// set some vars
$clientSeed = 'your client seed here';
$serverSeed = 'your server seed here';
$min = 1;
$max = 52;
$type = 'shuffle';
// instanciate the provable class
$provable = new Gamebetr\Provable\Provable($clientSeed, $serverSeed, $min, $max, $type);
// get the results
print $provable->results();
// prints [6,21,19,13,41,28,40,43,2,39,5,24,18,52,46,26,20,7,29,38,23,37,30,31,33,44,22,16,35,48,25,14,45,27,11,8,17,36,51,4,42,15,49,32,3,9,1,47,10,34,50,12]
Methods
__construct(string $clientSeed = null, string $serverSeed = null, int $min = 0, int $max = 0, string $type = 'number')
The class constructor takes the optional parameters, clientSeed, serverSeed, min, max, and type. If clientSeed or serverSeed are not provided, it will generate random seeds automatically. The min and max parameters are the minimum and maximum values of the random number or shuffle. Type is either number or shuffle.
static init(string $clientSeed = null, string $serverSeed = null, int $min = 0, int $max = 0, string $type = 'number')
The init method is just a static constructor. It allows you to do the following:
$provable = Gamebetr\Provable::init()
// returns an instance of Gamebetr\Provable
setClientSeed(string $clientSeed = null)
This sets the client seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getClientSeed()
This returns the current client seed.
setServerSeed(string $serverSeed = null)
This sets the server seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getServerSeed()
This returns the current server seed.
getHashedServerSeed()
This returns the hashed version of the server seed.
setMin(int $min)
This sets the minimum value property. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getMin()
This returns the current minimum value property.
setMax(int $max)
This sets the maximum value property. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getMax()
This returns the current maximum value property.
setType(string $type)
This sets the type property. Allowed values are number and shuffle. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getType()
This returns the current type property.
results()
This calculates the random number or shuffle and returns it.
number(int $minimumNumber = null, int $maximumNumber = null)
This generates a random number between $minimumNumber and $maximumNumber. If no values are provided, it will use the $min and $max properties of the object.
shuffle(int $minimumNumber = null, int $maximumNumber = null)
This generates a random shuffle of numbers between $minimumNumber and $maximumNumber. If no values are provided, it will use the $min and $max properties of the object.
Who's the provider, playbetr or onetouch? Is onetouch avoiding trouble with Malta by providing for playbetr (licensed in curacao) who then provides for you (no license)?
Either way, they're Onetouch games, and all the slots you have listed under provably fair belong somewhere else.
The table games are what Onetouch claims to be provably fair, not the slots. I haven't looked into those yet but yoloer808 seems to be on the right track.
June 28, 2020, 09:58:30 AM
Again, you do not show the algorithm with which you calculate results, so the game is unverifiable and therefore not provably fair.
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
While I generally agree that you should not need to have a 3rd party site show that you are fair, this really is the same as having 3rd party auditors do your RNG, which is the traditional model for casinos so yeah I agree, PF should be independent on your own as the players.
I admit I haven't tried to see how this works at Betcoin though. Let's see if they come back with an explanation.
We have contacted the game provider Gamebetr and following is the algorithm and instructions on how to set it up yourself. It is the same code that is on www.provablyfair.co and we are told that the full instructions will be added to the website soon. Please let us know if you have additional questions anytime.
Provable
This package provides the means to create provably fair random numbers and provably fair random shuffles.
Installation
via composer:
composer require gamebetr/provable ^1.0
Basic Useage
// set some vars
$clientSeed = 'your client seed here';
$serverSeed = 'your server seed here';
$min = 1;
$max = 52;
$type = 'shuffle';
// instanciate the provable class
$provable = new Gamebetr\Provable\Provable($clientSeed, $serverSeed, $min, $max, $type);
// get the results
print $provable->results();
// prints [6,21,19,13,41,28,40,43,2,39,5,24,18,52,46,26,20,7,29,38,23,37,30,31,33,44,22,16,35,48,25,14,45,27,11,8,17,36,51,4,42,15,49,32,3,9,1,47,10,34,50,12]
Methods
__construct(string $clientSeed = null, string $serverSeed = null, int $min = 0, int $max = 0, string $type = 'number')
The class constructor takes the optional parameters, clientSeed, serverSeed, min, max, and type. If clientSeed or serverSeed are not provided, it will generate random seeds automatically. The min and max parameters are the minimum and maximum values of the random number or shuffle. Type is either number or shuffle.
static init(string $clientSeed = null, string $serverSeed = null, int $min = 0, int $max = 0, string $type = 'number')
The init method is just a static constructor. It allows you to do the following:
$provable = Gamebetr\Provable::init()
// returns an instance of Gamebetr\Provable
setClientSeed(string $clientSeed = null)
This sets the client seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getClientSeed()
This returns the current client seed.
setServerSeed(string $serverSeed = null)
This sets the server seed. If no seed is provided, one will be automatically generated. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getServerSeed()
This returns the current server seed.
getHashedServerSeed()
This returns the hashed version of the server seed.
setMin(int $min)
This sets the minimum value property. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getMin()
This returns the current minimum value property.
setMax(int $max)
This sets the maximum value property. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getMax()
This returns the current maximum value property.
setType(string $type)
This sets the type property. Allowed values are number and shuffle. The Provable instance is returned allowing you to chain commands.
getType()
This returns the current type property.
results()
This calculates the random number or shuffle and returns it.
number(int $minimumNumber = null, int $maximumNumber = null)
This generates a random number between $minimumNumber and $maximumNumber. If no values are provided, it will use the $min and $max properties of the object.
shuffle(int $minimumNumber = null, int $maximumNumber = null)
This generates a random shuffle of numbers between $minimumNumber and $maximumNumber. If no values are provided, it will use the $min and $max properties of the object.
June 28, 2020, 09:10:11 AM
Again, you do not show the algorithm with which you calculate results, so the game is unverifiable and therefore not provably fair.
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
We will get back to you on this shortly. Thank you for the inquiry.
June 27, 2020, 11:27:25 AM
Again, you do not show the algorithm with which you calculate results, so the game is unverifiable and therefore not provably fair.
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
While I generally agree that you should not need to have a 3rd party site show that you are fair, this really is the same as having 3rd party auditors do your RNG, which is the traditional model for casinos so yeah I agree, PF should be independent on your own as the players.
I admit I haven't tried to see how this works at Betcoin though. Let's see if they come back with an explanation.
June 27, 2020, 11:14:12 AM
I dont see the provably fair algorithm anywhere, and when i try to verify the algorithm is also not displayed. You can hardly call this 'provably fair'
Hello, if you click the 3 bars in the upper right corner of the game, you will open up the provably fair menu. There you can set your player seed and view your server seed and hash.
There is also a verify button, which takes you to an independent 3rd party site where you can confirm your roll.
Thanks and best of luck to you!
Again, you do not show the algorithm with which you calculate results, so the game is unverifiable and therefore not provably fair.
How did an 'independent 3rd party site' know how to implement the PF without having access to the code? Very independent and third party indeed
June 27, 2020, 10:44:07 AM
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Score Prediction: 2-1 Real Madrid
Abelardo will initiate a strong reaction from his squad and they will be propelled by the return of Bernardo and Leandro Cabrera from suspensions which are their first selections in central defense pairing. Though strong additions, Real Madrid is a far superior team with much more strengh and depth which will also be improved by the return of Casemiro. We cannot see Real Madrid not having enough to win this game over the course of 90 minutes and we expect Real Madrid to dominate from start to finish.
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June 26, 2020, 10:19:17 AM
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The Battle of the Brits is a men's singles and doubles exhibition tournament put on by the Lawn Tennis Association. It is the prelude to 4 upcoming events which will also take place at the National Tennis Centre in Roehampton. This tournament is designed to raise money for NHS Charities Together and can be seen live on Amazon Prime Video in the UK and Ireland and on Eurosport and Tennis Channel in the US. Co-organised by Jamie Murray, the event will feature Britain’s top-ranked male players including Dan Evans, Kyle Edmund and Andy Murray.
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The Battle of the Brits is a men's singles and doubles exhibition tournament put on by the Lawn Tennis Association. It is the prelude to 4 upcoming events which will also take place at the National Tennis Centre in Roehampton. This tournament is designed to raise money for NHS Charities Together and can be seen live on Amazon Prime Video in the UK and Ireland and on Eurosport and Tennis Channel in the US. Co-organised by Jamie Murray, the event will feature Britain’s top-ranked male players including Dan Evans, Kyle Edmund and Andy Murray.
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Betcoin has offered lines on tennis for an astounding 7 years, but the origins of the sports go all the way back to the mid 19th century when 2 friends added rackets and a net to the Basque sport of pelota. The very first official tournament took place at the Leamington Lawn Tennis Club in Birmingham in 1874. The All England Lawn Tennis and Croquet Club would hold its first championships at Wimbledon only 3 years later. In fact, all four grand slam events, Wimbledon, the US Open, the French Open and the Australian Open, date back over 100 years ago. Today, tennis is popular throughout the world and one of the most commonly bet on sports at Betcoin.ag. We are pleased to offer up to 50 LIVE betting markets, continuously on every match, including a huge selection of lower tiered and ITF games. Check out our outright (futures) betting for your chance to pick the winners of every upcoming tournament.
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June 24, 2020, 09:19:07 AM
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While Bitcoin was the original cryptocurrency, many people consider Ethereum the future leader in the crypto world. This is largely in part due to its real world applications towards the use in smart contracts. Corporate goliaths such as Microsoft, JPMorgan Chase, Intel and Cisco are already part of a blockchain consortium, which utilizes this technology. Because of the massive potential of this currency, you can bet that its real world value will also be going up in the future. This makes Ethereum a great investment, and also means that the ETH you win playing at Betcoin will be an even bigger win in the long run. Of course, in the present day, Ethereum makes for a great gambling tool with its low fees and fast confirmation time. With average confirms taking about 40x faster than Bitcoin, you can be sure that you will receive your Ethereum payouts faster than you can say decentralized.
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June 23, 2020, 09:48:19 AM
PGA Traveler's Championship Golf Bitcoin Sportsbook
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The gentleman's game is back in action after being down for several months due to the COVID 19 pandemic. We have already had a couple exciting tournaments since its return, including the Charles Schwab Challenge and RBC Heritage. This week, we are pleased to bring you the Traveler's Championship. Bet on golf in your choice of crytpocurrency today at Betcoin Sports.
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First Round - 25 June 2020
The Traveler's was first played in 1952 and takes place at the TPC River Highlands in Connecticut, USA. Originally called the Insurance City Open, it has went through several name changes before The Travelers Companies took over sponsorship in 2007. It is generally the second-most attended PGA tour event, behind the Waste Management Phoenix Open. In 2017, over 290,000 fans attended. The par 70 course features a total of 6,841 in yardage from tee to pin. It's most recent winners include such greats as Chez Reavie, Bubba Watson and Jordan Spieth. Billy Casper has taken home the top prize 4 times, in 1963, 1965, 1968 and 1973. The prize fund for this year's event includes over 750 BTC worth of payouts. Two of the top 8 players will receive spots in The Open Championship, based on their performance.
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The gentleman's game is back in action after being down for several months due to the COVID 19 pandemic. We have already had a couple exciting tournaments since its return, including the Charles Schwab Challenge and RBC Heritage. This week, we are pleased to bring you the Traveler's Championship. Bet on golf in your choice of crytpocurrency today at Betcoin Sports.
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First Round - 25 June 2020
The Traveler's was first played in 1952 and takes place at the TPC River Highlands in Connecticut, USA. Originally called the Insurance City Open, it has went through several name changes before The Travelers Companies took over sponsorship in 2007. It is generally the second-most attended PGA tour event, behind the Waste Management Phoenix Open. In 2017, over 290,000 fans attended. The par 70 course features a total of 6,841 in yardage from tee to pin. It's most recent winners include such greats as Chez Reavie, Bubba Watson and Jordan Spieth. Billy Casper has taken home the top prize 4 times, in 1963, 1965, 1968 and 1973. The prize fund for this year's event includes over 750 BTC worth of payouts. Two of the top 8 players will receive spots in The Open Championship, based on their performance.
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June 22, 2020, 06:31:30 PM
PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds (PUBG) Bitcoin eSports Sportsbook
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PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds is a multiplayer game, which is fairly new in the eSports arena, having been released in 2017. It is available to be played on most major gaming platforms, including Windows, Android, iOS, Xbox One, Playstation 4 and Stadia. The creator of the game is Brendan "PlayerUnknown" Greene, who had very little development experience before striking gold with PUBG. He based the concept on his love of films like Battle Royale and The Hunger Games. The first official tournament was in 2017, to celebrate the 2 millionth game sold. It was an invitational event featuring 128 of the world's top gamers competing via Twitch, and raised over 25 BTC worth of funds for The Gamers Outreach Foundation. Later that year, a tournament was held which included over 35 BTC in prize money to be awarded to the best players. It has been well received by critics, considered the defining game of its genre. Battlegrounds has over 555 million players worldwide.
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Besides Battleground, Betcoin.ag offers over 15 additional eSports events, including CS:GO, LOL, DOTA 2, Fifa, Starcraft, Overwatch, Rainbox Six, Call of Duty and more. Our tremendous game selection includes the most betting markets on every match and LIVE, continuous betting as the game is running. We also feature a large amount of quality, realistic simulations and virtual sports, which run around the clock. Our exceptional 24/7 support team is available any time for your questions via live chat and support ticket. The more you play, the better your benefits will be, including lossback and betback, through our industry-leading VIP rewards program. Earn cryptocurrency by referring your family and friends, receiving lifetime commissions with the Betcoin affiliate program. Thank you and best of luck to all!
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PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds is a multiplayer game, which is fairly new in the eSports arena, having been released in 2017. It is available to be played on most major gaming platforms, including Windows, Android, iOS, Xbox One, Playstation 4 and Stadia. The creator of the game is Brendan "PlayerUnknown" Greene, who had very little development experience before striking gold with PUBG. He based the concept on his love of films like Battle Royale and The Hunger Games. The first official tournament was in 2017, to celebrate the 2 millionth game sold. It was an invitational event featuring 128 of the world's top gamers competing via Twitch, and raised over 25 BTC worth of funds for The Gamers Outreach Foundation. Later that year, a tournament was held which included over 35 BTC in prize money to be awarded to the best players. It has been well received by critics, considered the defining game of its genre. Battlegrounds has over 555 million players worldwide.
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June 22, 2020, 06:29:29 PM
I think it would be smart to answer some people on the forum here. If you ignore everything, people will not think you are very professional.
Is it true that playbetr is from the same owner?
Is it true that playbetr is from the same owner?
Hello, there has not been a single inquiry that has gone unanswered here. As we have stated before, Playbetr and many other sites share a similar software provider. Please let us know if you have any additional questions.
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