Topic: Betcoin.TM -> Owe me over 10.5BTC (Read 4384 times)

Well...

30 days passed since Betcoin.TM was online:

Last Active:    May 02, 2016, 05:42:54 AM

In meantime they scammed few more people:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/resolved-betcointm-stay-the-fuck-away-from-them-1496542
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15063773
And so on on post in their topic.

I will not waste more of my time watching this topic. So I'm locking it. If somebody wants to add anything - PM me and I will unlock it of course.
Meanwhile I believe they deserve a lot more red trust from DT.

This just makes me stay with known gambling sites thats been around for 2 years or more.

Deserving my btc deposits.. that sucks they wont pay out though..

If I had to gamble I would of just went with primedice.

Yes, I would like to be sent some watch-only wallet invites to prove that this is valid, however, this just stands as empty words.

Could you please request from them and to prove solvency?
As this could be the main problem in their case and reason to not pay me, @cwil and others in time.

Because they stated every one could become a millionaire with them, but according to posts here, their bankroll is just between 50-200+BTC. With such a small bankroll, paying 20-30BTC could really be a problem.

And just to clarify, saying things like We are not for few coins, We can pay millions and similar are not valid proof of solvency.

I got your point.

But words should be proven.

And if you read all the posts, Betcoin.TM owe money and to other players like @cwil, who won 11BTC at slots and never used a bonus. Also in past months users waited for payments or answers much longer than a week, in multiple occasions. This is not right or correct to players in any way.

Many people think them as clever and create multiple accounts to exploit bonus this may/May not be case with op , but still i feel that betcoin.tm will not ruin its reputation until there is fault from other side.
The only fact that lies now is either OP is a Liar or the accused , only you both knows.

Good and natural development as those cashbacks were ~0.1 by my guess.

I had a very good opinion on Betcoin.TM before this case and if you check my posts you will see they are only positive. But past behavior doesn't prove there will be no problems in future.

And this is not only about payment issues. Because:

a) Do you think it's normal to tell me there will be 24 hours! review of my account /which is completely normal/ and then without any further communication to extent it to over 14 days and state this is there normal procedure. So every player could expect a 2 WEEKS block. I don't.  // pastebin of conversation is above

b) Do you think it's normal to asking every day, day after day, what happen, require back communication and nothing happens for 10+ days? I don't. // timeline is in OP

c) Do you think it's normal users like cwil to ask many many many times what happen with his 11BTC and to not get a single answer before this topic? I don't.

d) Do you think it's normal users to wait OVER A MONTH for cashback of a promotion?  I don't.

e) Do you think it's normal is normal constantly to have many communication and payment issues?  I don't.  // just check their topic

Do you think they deserve a good reputation now? I don't.


For me this is completely waste of time now. They have plenty of time to sort things right. They don't want to.
So for me this is nearly closed. I just hope at least @cwil will get his 11BTC.

They have Sent the Cashbacks yesterday, To these People.

But I will talk to him about you both people

Thanks

Sure. Could you please ask him and why Betcoin.TM


Owe @cwil 11BTC for 20+ days
-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14600949

Owe @camelson ?? cashback for over a month
-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcointm-bitcoin-casino-poker-slots-sports-live-dealers-and-more-1283187

Owe @OrangeSeller ?? cashback for over a month
-> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14491697

and those are only the public known.

Im NOT Working for Betcoin, I had good relation with betcoin and i had his skype address, and usually talk with him when i have issues. And When I saw he is Not replying here, I thought why Not ask him by pming him at skype. And yesterday he respond me. Let me ask him to provide proofs about Multiaccount ISSUE.

Regards

Sorry about this second post, but forgot to ask you in previous. And as you moved from PM to the topic:

Could be kind to clarify, with a simple yes or no, are you now working for Betcoin.TM?

Thank you.

Please look at detailed post above - I don't have multiple accounts and I request them to prove it publicly. Because otherwise they can say this to ANY winner and took any coins.

As you can see, I wrote it nearly 2 days ago and they didn't reply just because they cant prove something which is false.

And what about other guys /stated in OP/ who are still waiting for their coins???




"now what you say OP?"

This is like I to wrote somewhere you are scammer or owe me XX coins or whatever without any proof and then to say to you - "now what you say OP?"...

I had nothing personal with the Both OP & Betcoin, Because I made many Exchanges with the OP Which went very well and smoothly without any Issue, and I also Earned few BTC From betcoin and Sometime I got issue about the Withdrawal which was cleared because of Betcoin here.

Today I got lucky to connect with betcoin on skype and I asked about the OP, Because OP was waiting for his BTC to exchange with me  And I thought why Not ask from him [betcoin] about OP issue and here is His Reply



now what you say OP?

Ran into this multiaccount issue when I signed up and forgot the password. It kept telling me to sign from my bitcoin account that I had not linked to them yet,hell had not even used the account yet.
So I sent support 3 emails and no reply over a week.
Since I was most likely not going to play on the site anyways I thought maybe the account was never activated.
Keep in mind I used a affiliate link to join. Would not let me log in with the new account.
Finally I catch Angel on support live and she starts giving me the riot act but since I cam clean they would fix this issue.
Firstly it was two accounts that I had never used and still have not used and the issue was because I got no response from support. But she kept on in this manner and it was real off putting but made me think how easy they could pull this crap with established accounts and be scott free. She noted my account and that was enough for me to say bye bye!

Thats my whole dealing with the site,it smelled fishy from the start with the fake half clad women all over the site and the chat trying to act sexy.

Finally somebody to stand up for Betcon.TM.

I also liked them a lot with their fancy dice rolling... till thay scammed me with 11.25BTC -2.9 returned...

BUT. I'm not multi accouter and they don't have/cannot submit ANY prof of this. Just because I used only maruni as account with them.

And what about cwil, who never used a bonus, just won 11BTC on slots and still waiting for payment over 16 days?? Is he another hacker of their provably fair games??

--> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14600949

Also few other players complained that they are waiting for cashback promo over a month now.






I will update and OP:

You've said there will be a ONE day / 24 hours / review if I've get lucky to clear the bonus. Then you publicly said you are doing TWO WEEKS review. This mean every player could stuck for weeks with you. So guys, use your head wisely.

--> Pastebin of chat for 24 hours review and that I'm eligible for bonus

"Angel (22:53:23): I see here that you are still eligible to have our 201% and 101% match deposit bonuses"




Yes, it was finally proceeded. I don't need to authorize it. Transaction is made to my public address from my profile...
Got at least 2.9BTC back. OP updated.




And what about the 2BTC I won, betting with my OWN funds - e.g. after clearing the bonus?? If I had lose, everything would be fine for you, right?






Please, as I was the initiator of this public scam accusation:

Please, explain in public how I violated the terms of service and as you are accusing me of multi accounting.
Do you have ANY proofs? No because this is just and excuse for not paying me. And you could do it with any player... So in my eyes you are still scammers.


--> Pastebin and of all my bets. As you can see they are all made by their rules in previous pastebin about bonus, and they cannot submit any proof about their multi account accusation, because I've never used another account beside maruni with them.
Bets until jadecoin are for bonus, then I won another 2BTC with OWN funds, as every satoshi then is not a BONUS funds. I've I got lost, they would be happy as hell.

Edit: 2nd Pastebin for bets, as 1st one exceeded the free limit of 512KB/past

You have a history with these casinos's and i dont.I wouldn't even come online for this but because i know this guy from months & he never seemed fishy.he is smart though.

user not violting the terms of the bonus is not the issue here but he has violated a general casino rule applicable for each & every game.You might be allowed to have 50 accounts but you certainly aren't allowed to abuse the bonuses/referrals with all of them.

Stunna banned the faucet farmers some months ago & he also neg-tagged eal for abusing his giveaways in the past.It is way too simple for one to understand but i know what you are doing here.

Good Luck to you but this is no way a scam accusation cause the OP has been refunded his deposited coins.

read more there..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13495319

Will you please post the terms of the bonus.  I'm not sure how else to ask this.


It would make sense if it were possible for a player to benefit from the bonus.  Which is what I'm trying to figure out.

I have spoken to betcoin.tm for a significant amount of time & he has always been supportive & helpful.However, the multi account thing has been raised a lot of times in the past as well and it is not allowed for more than one person in the same house to play with the same IP's as there is no one to come & check them.The same applies for referral bonuses etc...It's common sense.

If you do as you like then the casino has the right to do as they like.This is if OP truly has several accounts.


Yes,It does.

I think we're not communicating this properly:

When you create multiple accounts we do not allow ANY player to take advantage of bonuses.

When I say 'take advantage of bonus offers' I mean use and benefit from them - not the definition you are thinking of.

Does this make sense?

I never used Vpn and i don't know how to set up Vpn.
With this kind of stuff i leave your site but I thought you guys want to make better site but i was wrong sorry to say.There were lot of issue with withdrawal and still the same.