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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 19, 2025, 10:45:52 AM

kyc has always been a double edge sword.

too many places get hacked and you get leaked.

When I was younger I worked for the US IRS

I am in my sixties so I do not work any more. I have a small pension because of my US government work.

I have been notified that My IRS account was hacked by un named hackers.

If the IRS can be hacked and info for more than 100,000,000 people is compromised what good is kyc.

I just wish kyc was not required unless you were over say 10,000 usd.

Sad to hear that something like IRS can get hacked. That data breach can be really dangerous, as it contains networth and addresses of people.
I agree, KYC is a double edged sword, and i don't like it too much

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 19, 2025, 09:51:39 AM

Yes guys, unfortunately the day BetFury asks for my documentation, I will have to leave again and I think some players will proceed to do that, just like several did at Stake.

From my experience if you do a proper research before gambling on crypto casinos, you won't be scammed, at least since 2017 I have never been scammed and never did KYC documentation.

If you're concerned about getting scammed, Betfury will never scam you or be careless about any document or details you submit for KYC because the casino has been long standing and built on a very good reputation. And although I understand your concerns, I also think that you are refusing to accept change, which is something that must happen.

The casino landscape is changing and evolving; gamblers need to come to terms with that.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on January 19, 2025, 10:45:52 AM

I just wish kyc was not required unless you were over say 10,000 usd.

In general in casino ToS, KYC level 2 is not triggered until you exceed a certain amount, which can be around that figure but sometimes it is lower. In any case at least until recently even if it was lower, like $2,000, they usually turned a blind eye but the way things are going it seems to me that we are heading towards KYC of what is currently level 2 as mandatory upon registration in the future. Hopefully it will take a while though.

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kyc has always been a double edge sword.

too many places get hacked and you get leaked.

When I was younger I worked for the US IRS

I am in my sixties so I do not work any more. I have a small pension because of my US government work.

I have been notified that My IRS account was hacked by un named hackers.

If the IRS can be hacked and info for more than 100,000,000 people is compromised what good is kyc.

I just wish kyc was not required unless you were over say 10,000 usd.

Don Pedro Dinero

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See? That's why I was asking HugoPT. At the moment maybe he has not been asked for the documentation but as the regulations are and being someone who bets large amounts, at some point he will cross the threshold that will force him to be asked for the documentation. But it is not that it is Stake or BetFury, it is that we are in 2025, not in 2017. Unfortunately this is going to go further, and cryptocurrency casinos are going to lose one of their main attractions, but I think this is going to be just a bump in the road.

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 19, 2025, 09:51:39 AM

Yes guys, unfortunately the day BetFury asks for my documentation, I will have to leave again and I think some players will proceed to do that, just like several did at Stake.

From my experience if you do a proper research before gambling on crypto casinos, you won't be scammed, at least since 2017 I have never been scammed and never did KYC documentation.

I will not surprise if you can keep playing in a casino without KYC on previous years since most of my casino account is still not KYC verified ever since I start gambling since 2016. I only do KYC verification voluntarily for the sake of rewards and promotion but the rest is still not KYC until now.

You have low chance to ask for KYC if you are playing just a regular gambler without doing shady trick that abused casino bonus and ToS.

However, I doubt you can still keep up this anonymous gambling with the current regulations.

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Yes guys, unfortunately the day BetFury asks for my documentation, I will have to leave again and I think some players will proceed to do that, just like several did at Stake.

From my experience if you do a proper research before gambling on crypto casinos, you won't be scammed, at least since 2017 I have never been scammed and never did KYC documentation.

@panjul07 Yes, the day crypto's casino really inform KYC documentation mandatory, I will just prefer to go to some physical casino in my area, at least I get free food/drinks, parking, tickets shows, etc...

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 19, 2025, 08:39:06 AM

I value my documentation privacy, so i don't want to play on a website that forces me to send my documents and i don't have any insurance that they will be leaked someday.

Stake lost a good player like me because of that KYC lvl 2 regulation, check my wager stats there +1.5M $ ...

That's why i play on BetFury now.

Sooner or later you should leave all gambling sites because all licensed and regulated casinos have the right to ask you KYC at anytime.
Optional KYC is indeed better than mandatory KYC (at least for me) but the time will come later when you will be asked for KYC.
If you value your identity much, take your current opportunity until you cant do it anymore in the future because I predict that KYC will be something mandatory in all casinos in the future.
Once it is happened, what will you do? Stop gambling completely or will you start to accept the terms by the casinos?

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 18, 2025, 02:13:35 PM

I switched to BetFury from Stake because of the KYC regulations and i'm quite happy with the website.

If you switched from stake casino to Betfury simply because you are avoiding KYC, KYC is still required here as well as a common requirement that all casinos these days have, and it is unavoidable if you wish to gamble on a crypto casino.

Quote from: HugoPT on January 19, 2025, 08:39:06 AM

That's why i play on BetFury now.

You should find a way to come to terms with KYC requirements because what if Betfury changes and then all of a sudden asks for the same details that you were required to submit in the level two verification on stake? Are you saying you would leave Betfury as well?

If that's your action, you will keep moving from casino to casino.

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 19, 2025, 08:39:06 AM

I value my documentation privacy, so i don't want to play on a website that forces me to send my documents and i don't have any insurance that they will be leaked someday.

Stake lost a good player like me because of that KYC lvl 2 regulation, check my wager stats there +1.5M $ ...

That's why i play on BetFury now.

I haven't played at Stake much, I have always preferred BetFury, probably because of BFG and the ability to mine BFG through wagering... In the last year, I have played poker at Stake, nothing much, but I didn't open Stake in the last few months. So I don't even know what's going on with that KYC verification, and I don't plan to find out either... there are good casinos where KYC is still optional.

I have been playing at BetFury for years and I have many deposits and withdrawals with just a basic registration, email and that's it. But that doesn't mean they won't change it one day... I don't think anyone can say that for sure.

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 19, 2025, 08:39:06 AM

I value my documentation privacy, so i don't want to play on a website that forces me to send my documents and i don't have any insurance that they will be leaked someday.

Stake lost a good player like me because of that KYC lvl 2 regulation, check my wager stats there +1.5M $ ...

That's why i play on BetFury now.

All casino that has license to operate is obligated to required KYC to the players as this is mandated by the law. Some casino just doesn’t enforced it strictly however they can ask you to do KYC anytime including Betfury.

Any casino claiming they are anonymous while operating under a legal license is not actually anonymous. You should play on decentralized casino if you want a real KYC free experience but the risk of scamming is high since they don’t have any legal documentation that will make them committed to their casino once they decided to run.

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 18, 2025, 02:13:35 PM

I switched to BetFury from Stake because of the KYC regulations and i'm quite happy with the website.

What differences are there between Stake KYC requirements and BetFury ones? (I've never played at Stake)

I don't know what the requirements are at BetFury, but at stake it's very simple:

Level 1 = full name, country, date of birth, residential address, city and postal code

Level 2 = upload national ID Front side and Back side

It's not a difficult task, currently all stake users are required to do this simple kyc

Everybody knows that it is simple Grin

. The problem is with KYC itself, not with the process of KYC. It is good that Stake is following the regulations seriously by forcing KYC, but crypto is known for anonymity, so many will surely have a problem with that.
KYC is a double-edged sword for casinos.

I value my documentation privacy, so i don't want to play on a website that forces me to send my documents and i don't have any insurance that they will be leaked someday.

Stake lost a good player like me because of that KYC lvl 2 regulation, check my wager stats there +1.5M $ ...

https://ibb.co/RBHDPVH

That's why i play on BetFury now.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 18, 2025, 05:29:45 PM

I don't know what the requirements are at BetFury, but at stake it's very simple:

Level 1 = full name, country, date of birth, residential address, city and postal code

Level 2 = upload national ID Front side and Back side

It's not a difficult task, currently all stake users are required to do this simple kyc

Those are the same requirements at BetFury.

Quote from: Bitinity on January 19, 2025, 01:02:47 AM

The main difference is that now KYC is mandatory at Stake, players wont be able to play without KYC at Stake while at Betfury, players are still able to play(deposit/withdraw) without KYC. About the requirements, I believe most KYC are the same (for the basic) which is about uploading personal document such as ID card or passport.

I don't know where you see the difference. I asked about it explicitly in the chat and you can't bet a single satoshi without having filled in your data level 1 KYC on BetFury. What you can play before are the free spins, but nothing else. I see the KYC requirements the same on both sites.

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 18, 2025, 02:13:35 PM

Only thing i think it's not good, it's the deposit bonus with too much wager requirements and then live casino options are blocked.

BetFury's wagering requirement for the welcome bonus is 40x. This requirement is somewhere in the middle. There are casinos that require less but also those that require a higher rollover. You have 14 days to meet the wagering requirement.

As for live casino options being off limits for the deposit bonus, that's not unusual. I have seen other casinos do the same: they restrict certain or all live dealer games. Even if you can wager on live casino games, you have to take into account game contribution. This catalog of games usually contributes very little to the bonus wagering. We are talking about 5% to 20% per round in most casinos. That means if you wager $100, the casino only counts as if you wagered $5 to $20. The bonus contribution for slots is 100%, though.

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Quote from: Slow death on January 18, 2025, 05:29:45 PM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 04:43:20 PM

Quote from: HugoPT on January 18, 2025, 02:13:35 PM

I switched to BetFury from Stake because of the KYC regulations and i'm quite happy with the website.

What differences are there between Stake KYC requirements and BetFury ones? (I've never played at Stake)

I don't know what the requirements are at BetFury, but at stake it's very simple:

Level 1 = full name, country, date of birth, residential address, city and postal code

Level 2 = upload national ID Front side and Back side

It's not a difficult task, currently all stake users are required to do this simple kyc

Everybody knows that it is simple Grin

. The problem is with KYC itself, not with the process of KYC. It is good that Stake is following the regulations seriously by forcing KYC, but crypto is known for anonymity, so many will surely have a problem with that.
KYC is a double-edged sword for casinos.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 04:43:20 PM

Quote from: HugoPT on January 18, 2025, 02:13:35 PM

I switched to BetFury from Stake because of the KYC regulations and i'm quite happy with the website.

What differences are there between Stake KYC requirements and BetFury ones? (I've never played at Stake)

The main difference is that now KYC is mandatory at Stake, players wont be able to play without KYC at Stake while at Betfury, players are still able to play(deposit/withdraw) without KYC. About the requirements, I believe most KYC are the same (for the basic) which is about uploading personal document such as ID card or passport.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on January 18, 2025, 04:43:20 PM

Quote from: HugoPT on January 18, 2025, 02:13:35 PM

I switched to BetFury from Stake because of the KYC regulations and i'm quite happy with the website.

What differences are there between Stake KYC requirements and BetFury ones? (I've never played at Stake)

I don't know what the requirements are at BetFury, but at stake it's very simple:

Level 1 = full name, country, date of birth, residential address, city and postal code

Level 2 = upload national ID Front side and Back side

It's not a difficult task, currently all stake users are required to do this simple kyc

Don Pedro Dinero

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Quote from: HugoPT on January 18, 2025, 02:13:35 PM

I switched to BetFury from Stake because of the KYC regulations and i'm quite happy with the website.

What differences are there between Stake KYC requirements and BetFury ones? (I've never played at Stake)

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Quote from: Unsoldier on January 17, 2025, 03:41:07 PM

Tomorrow marks the end of my BFG staking period. I’ve been staking these tokens for a whole year but earned very little in return. Now I’m wondering what to do with the BFG I’ll get back tomorrow. Maybe the best option is to sell them and move on since BFG doesn’t seem to know what price growth is.
But the market is bullish right now, and with Trump set to become president on Monday, perhaps it’s worth holding on and waiting for a potential price increase. What do you think, guys?

I think it depends on how many BFG tokens you have to stake. I locked 4000 tokens for a year and get 0.09$/day which is not a lot but it all adds up. In the beginning you got a lot more dividends so it is always key to join quickly and gather as much tokens as possible. Pricing wise, the token has indeed not done a lot and it might hover around the same price for a while. It can jump as a lot of alt tokens have jumped massively so that is always a possibility.

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Quote from: Get-Paid.com on January 17, 2025, 04:46:49 AM

Those who just claimed from their faucets years ago and kept these intact have made a very nice chunk of $.
Just like the old days of many faucets.

Who knows, the free box with the free satoshis today in this pace might give you free $1 each claim you make. It's nuts.

yeah, i regret not keep all the dogecoins i got from faucets back in the day Undecided

but nah, faucets are a waste of time then and now, anyone would be better off if they just made money elsewhere and bought crypto.

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