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legendary
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What happened to the 10% buyback of BKB tokens every 3 months? It now says this:
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If you opt in to sell a percentage of your BKB balance will be traded for Bitcoin on November 1st 2018 at the BKB price and Bitcoin exchange rate on November 1st. Half of monthly site profit will be bought back in total. Everyone who has opted in gets equal percentage of total amount to be bought back. Prices shown above are estimates.
I've Opted in, but I don't think anything happened on November 1st. Is the 10% buyback entirely off the table now?

It is now:

* Monthly buybacks where half of the site profit is used to buy BKB
* Quarterly buybacks where the minimum bought back would total to 10% for the past 3 months
Quarterly buybacks are now entirely gone. I received an email labeled "Latest news, rebranding and BKB changes". In short: Half the profit will be used to buy back BKB tokens each month, and BetKing will rebrand from gambling to a Bitcoin bank/exchange. And under the name BitSafe they'll launch another ICO Shocked
I'd like to add a link, but can't find the email online. I'll quote the full email in code tags:
Code:
Latest news, rebranding and BKB changes

Latest BKB changes
 
We have tweaked the BKB buy back model.
 
Each month we will take the total profit BetKing makes from bankroll profit commission, trade fees on the exchange and 3rd party commission for licensing software.
 
Fifty percent of this profit will be used to buy back BKB at the current buy back price.
 
The tokens we buy back or earn in fees over the month will be burned.
 
The buy back price is determined by:
Previous months BKB price + (monthly site profit in $ / total BKB supply)
 
BKB was snapshotted at $0.099 on 2018-10-21 00:00 with 20 million of 100 million tokens burned, leaving 80 million.
 
What can BKB be used for?
 
The token can be used to get 50% discount on Bankroll profit commission when you invest BTC, ETH or LTC in our Dice game bankroll.
 
BKB can also be used to get 50% discount on trade fees on the BetKing exchange
 
BKB can be used to pay for withdrawl fees when withdrawing BTC, ETH or LTC to your wallet.
 
BKB can also be used to play Dice and get rakeback and prizes in our leaderboard contests
 
BKB can be traded on our exchange for Bitcoin
 
Future of BKB and BetKing
 
BetKing will be moving away from gambling and rebranding to become a Bitcoin bank, exchange and payment processor.
 
We have already began work on this and we will launch in q1 of 2019. See https://bitsafe.io for more details and a working demo of the app.
 
Once the new site is live BKB will be converted to BTSC (BitSafe Coin) automatically using the exchange rate of both tokens at the time.
 
BTSC has similar utility to BKB in that it can be used to pay trade fees, merchant fees and any other fees on the BitSafe platform.
 
BitSafe will also use 40% of it's quarterly profit to buy back BTSC on the BitSafe exchange.
 
We believe these changes are best for BKB token holders and our future success together.

I recall from memory many promises around BetKing's ICO, and many of them have been broken (for instance not reselling BKB tokens after buying them back, the quarterly buy backs, the promises to add more games, and more). I didn't believe the math behind the (lack of) details in the whitepaper from the start, but all details are fragmented in many different topics on this forum, and I don't have the time to dig it all up now.
If I look at betking.io now, the chat is gone, the site looks worse than it ever looked, and it doesn't look anywhere near what was promised in the BKB ICO.

My guess: Bitcoin dropped so much that BetKing can't afford the buy backs anymore, since the BKB price is fixed in dollars. Spending half the profit on buy backs is a joke, the site barely has any players.
I remember Dean wanted something new when he closed BetKing, because he was tired of dealing with it. The site was profitable and trusted when it closed.
It looks like Dean finally found a new project to work on, but he's largely destroyed his reputation in the process.

Sad. This marks Dean/betking.io moving into actual scam territory. The BKB token was an instrument that allow Dean to speculate in bitcoin price: He made a personal profit/loss from the buy back scheme depending on the current crypto prices compared to the ICO price.  While I know people were a bit upset when the price of crypto (especially bitcoin) sky-rocketed but the token price was still fixed to USD -- however it was always defended as fair because had crypto prices dropped -- the tokens would still have the buy-back scheme and still priced in USD and Dean would be taking a personal loss.

So he's been happy arbitrarily changing the terms, reaping the benefits when it was in his favor (even offering accelerated buybacks when bitcoin price was high) and now that BTC price is slightly lower ($4250 USD vs $4596) instead of taking a loss, he's just telling investors to fuck off. "Half the profit" thing is insulting, especially when he's pretty much sabotaged any potential for the site to make money and done ridiculous things like adding *another* investor-funded instead of using ICO funds like it was intended. (and the site is pretty much dead anyway)

On a personal note, I kind of dodged a bullet here. Dean spent quite a lot of time recently giving me extremely attractive offers to buy a large amount of BKB. I never accepted it, as the terms were so much in my favor it didn't make sense (compared to he could've had the same exposure for a fraction of the price by going on bitmex) and when I asked him how low btc price would need to get before he could no longer do the the buybacks , and he insisted that it could never happen and even if bitcoin price went down to $1 he had systems in place to sell btc to ensure he could always make investors whole. Now it's pretty clear the whole thing was in bad-faith, and the second things turned against him he pulls the plug.


Oh and to top it all off, this part really me laugh:

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Once the new site is live BKB will be converted to BTSC (BitSafe Coin) automatically using the exchange rate of both tokens at the time.

...which is currently significantly less than half its "buy back price"  Roll Eyes  Man, investors really got screwed here pretty badly. But if anyone feels left out from this reverse-gangbang at least he's offering a new ICO to get into.
legendary
Activity: 2018
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What happened to the 10% buyback of BKB tokens every 3 months? It now says this:
Quote
If you opt in to sell a percentage of your BKB balance will be traded for Bitcoin on November 1st 2018 at the BKB price and Bitcoin exchange rate on November 1st. Half of monthly site profit will be bought back in total. Everyone who has opted in gets equal percentage of total amount to be bought back. Prices shown above are estimates.
I've Opted in, but I don't think anything happened on November 1st. Is the 10% buyback entirely off the table now?

It is now:

* Monthly buybacks where half of the site profit is used to buy BKB
* Quarterly buybacks where the minimum bought back would total to 10% for the past 3 months
Quarterly buybacks are now entirely gone. I received an email labeled "Latest news, rebranding and BKB changes". In short: Half the profit will be used to buy back BKB tokens each month, and BetKing will rebrand from gambling to a Bitcoin bank/exchange. And under the name BitSafe they'll launch another ICO Shocked
I'd like to add a link, but can't find the email online. I'll quote the full email in code tags:
Code:
Latest news, rebranding and BKB changes

Latest BKB changes
 
We have tweaked the BKB buy back model.
 
Each month we will take the total profit BetKing makes from bankroll profit commission, trade fees on the exchange and 3rd party commission for licensing software.
 
Fifty percent of this profit will be used to buy back BKB at the current buy back price.
 
The tokens we buy back or earn in fees over the month will be burned.
 
The buy back price is determined by:
Previous months BKB price + (monthly site profit in $ / total BKB supply)
 
BKB was snapshotted at $0.099 on 2018-10-21 00:00 with 20 million of 100 million tokens burned, leaving 80 million.
 
What can BKB be used for?
 
The token can be used to get 50% discount on Bankroll profit commission when you invest BTC, ETH or LTC in our Dice game bankroll.
 
BKB can also be used to get 50% discount on trade fees on the BetKing exchange
 
BKB can be used to pay for withdrawl fees when withdrawing BTC, ETH or LTC to your wallet.
 
BKB can also be used to play Dice and get rakeback and prizes in our leaderboard contests
 
BKB can be traded on our exchange for Bitcoin
 
Future of BKB and BetKing
 
BetKing will be moving away from gambling and rebranding to become a Bitcoin bank, exchange and payment processor.
 
We have already began work on this and we will launch in q1 of 2019. See https://bitsafe.io for more details and a working demo of the app.
 
Once the new site is live BKB will be converted to BTSC (BitSafe Coin) automatically using the exchange rate of both tokens at the time.
 
BTSC has similar utility to BKB in that it can be used to pay trade fees, merchant fees and any other fees on the BitSafe platform.
 
BitSafe will also use 40% of it's quarterly profit to buy back BTSC on the BitSafe exchange.
 
We believe these changes are best for BKB token holders and our future success together.

I recall from memory many promises around BetKing's ICO, and many of them have been broken (for instance not reselling BKB tokens after buying them back, the quarterly buy backs, the promises to add more games, and more). I didn't believe the math behind the (lack of) details in the whitepaper from the start, but all details are fragmented in many different topics on this forum, and I don't have the time to dig it all up now.
If I look at betking.io now, the chat is gone, the site looks worse than it ever looked, and it doesn't look anywhere near what was promised in the BKB ICO.

My guess: Bitcoin dropped so much that BetKing can't afford the buy backs anymore, since the BKB price is fixed in dollars. Spending half the profit on buy backs is a joke, the site barely has any players.
I remember Dean wanted something new when he closed BetKing, because he was tired of dealing with it. The site was profitable and trusted when it closed.
It looks like Dean finally found a new project to work on, but he's largely destroyed his reputation in the process.

Not that it's any of my business but an ICO after an ICO does indeed seem quite sketchy...
jr. member
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now he has  stopped the wager contest.
that is the end of his site cos no one will go playing there.
yes his support is good, but his attitude sucks.
he wont even pay you your winnings promptly. that is the first site where you have to stress your self to win then stress your self to withdraw.
dude is a total con artist. atimes i fail to belive the site actually have investors, cos no investor will want to invest in a site that scares players off with its habit. i think the bank roll is fake.
i have never seen an investor complain
legendary
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What happened to the 10% buyback of BKB tokens every 3 months? It now says this:
Quote
If you opt in to sell a percentage of your BKB balance will be traded for Bitcoin on November 1st 2018 at the BKB price and Bitcoin exchange rate on November 1st. Half of monthly site profit will be bought back in total. Everyone who has opted in gets equal percentage of total amount to be bought back. Prices shown above are estimates.
I've Opted in, but I don't think anything happened on November 1st. Is the 10% buyback entirely off the table now?

It is now:

* Monthly buybacks where half of the site profit is used to buy BKB
* Quarterly buybacks where the minimum bought back would total to 10% for the past 3 months
Quarterly buybacks are now entirely gone. I received an email labeled "Latest news, rebranding and BKB changes". In short: Half the profit will be used to buy back BKB tokens each month, and BetKing will rebrand from gambling to a Bitcoin bank/exchange. And under the name BitSafe they'll launch another ICO Shocked
I'd like to add a link, but can't find the email online. I'll quote the full email in code tags:
Code:
Latest news, rebranding and BKB changes

Latest BKB changes
 
We have tweaked the BKB buy back model.
 
Each month we will take the total profit BetKing makes from bankroll profit commission, trade fees on the exchange and 3rd party commission for licensing software.
 
Fifty percent of this profit will be used to buy back BKB at the current buy back price.
 
The tokens we buy back or earn in fees over the month will be burned.
 
The buy back price is determined by:
Previous months BKB price + (monthly site profit in $ / total BKB supply)
 
BKB was snapshotted at $0.099 on 2018-10-21 00:00 with 20 million of 100 million tokens burned, leaving 80 million.
 
What can BKB be used for?
 
The token can be used to get 50% discount on Bankroll profit commission when you invest BTC, ETH or LTC in our Dice game bankroll.
 
BKB can also be used to get 50% discount on trade fees on the BetKing exchange
 
BKB can be used to pay for withdrawl fees when withdrawing BTC, ETH or LTC to your wallet.
 
BKB can also be used to play Dice and get rakeback and prizes in our leaderboard contests
 
BKB can be traded on our exchange for Bitcoin
 
Future of BKB and BetKing
 
BetKing will be moving away from gambling and rebranding to become a Bitcoin bank, exchange and payment processor.
 
We have already began work on this and we will launch in q1 of 2019. See https://bitsafe.io for more details and a working demo of the app.
 
Once the new site is live BKB will be converted to BTSC (BitSafe Coin) automatically using the exchange rate of both tokens at the time.
 
BTSC has similar utility to BKB in that it can be used to pay trade fees, merchant fees and any other fees on the BitSafe platform.
 
BitSafe will also use 40% of it's quarterly profit to buy back BTSC on the BitSafe exchange.
 
We believe these changes are best for BKB token holders and our future success together.

I recall from memory many promises around BetKing's ICO, and many of them have been broken (for instance not reselling BKB tokens after buying them back, the quarterly buy backs, the promises to add more games, and more). I didn't believe the math behind the (lack of) details in the whitepaper from the start, but all details are fragmented in many different topics on this forum, and I don't have the time to dig it all up now.
If I look at betking.io now, the chat is gone, the site looks worse than it ever looked, and it doesn't look anywhere near what was promised in the BKB ICO.

My guess: Bitcoin dropped so much that BetKing can't afford the buy backs anymore, since the BKB price is fixed in dollars. Spending half the profit on buy backs is a joke, the site barely has any players.
I remember Dean wanted something new when he closed BetKing, because he was tired of dealing with it. The site was profitable and trusted when it closed.
It looks like Dean finally found a new project to work on, but he's largely destroyed his reputation in the process.
legendary
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no one is playing on the site. i wish he knew that its because of the delay in the little payouts. how will u promise to pay at the end of the day and delay for days. this dean is  one stupid motherfucker. his shit is only gonna affect investors. until he starts paying fast and prompt, i  and my friends will continue playing in safedice.com

Dean Nolan the betking owner and scammer will definitely return to delete posts and lock threads again. I do think it is not right to swear at Dean Nolan even though he is considered by many to be a petty thief and scammer.

Anyway, regardless of which site people use it is clear people are staying away from the betking scam website in their droves so I am happy you and your friends use other websites.

The latest visit to the betking website shows the scammer now seems to be running just the dice game and has paid a low level dev to create an exchange. It not exactly bursting with visitors. Scammer and fool are two words that come to mind when Dean Nolan is mentioned.
jr. member
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no one is playing on the site. i wish he knew that its because of the delay in the little payouts. how will u promise to pay at the end of the day and delay for days. this dean is  one stupid motherfucker. his shit is only gonna affect investors. until he starts paying fast and prompt, i  and my friends will continue playing in safedice.com
legendary
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he keeps delaying to pay the leaderboard. that is the most annoyiing shit Angry Sad

Well he scammed the Bustabit folks out of 2 BTC licence fee for the Crash game so it does not surprise me he is either delaying payouts.

It was mentioned earlier he banned people from the live chat because they were questioning scammer Dean Nolan and his business ethics.

For a scammer who made over $6.5 million off the ICO and pocketed a large amount for himself it means he would really not care about a "small" payout to those on the "leaderboard"
hero member
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Betking was one of best online casinos based on cryptocurrencies, iplayed thrre a long timd ago before i quit gambling, and i hope i find a chance to be back as soon as possible. Smiley


Corrected the bolded part for you. It was one of the best on its time, but now it isn't. There are lots of scam accusation thrown at them now, you might want to check it out first before planning to try it again. I myself will not ever visit this site again after ending a contest early just a day or 2 before it ends resulting me to lose money for nothing
newbie
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Betking is one of best online casinos based on cryptocurrencies, iplayed thrre a long timd ago before i quit gambling, and i hope i find a chance to be back as soon as possible. Smiley
jr. member
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he keeps delaying to pay the leaderboard. that is the most annoyiing shit Angry Sad
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the reason i went there to play is because of the leaderboard. i just learnt that he dosnt pay it promptly. when rollin did leader board, they paid instantly. if he cant pay leaderboard instantly then he should scrap it out



betking and Dean Nolan are commonly known as scam and scammer.

EVERYBODY PLEASE BEWARE OF BETKING SCAM


jr. member
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the reason i went there to play is because of the leaderboard. i just learnt that he dosnt pay it promptly. when rollin did leader board, they paid instantly. if he cant pay leaderboard instantly then he should scrap it out
legendary
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i deposited and its close to 2 hours now with several confirmation but no btc in my account. you wanna scam me?

Sorry but it is true, you probably lost your money.

betking and Dean Nolan are commonly known as scam and scammer
hero member
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i deposited and its close to 2 hours now with several confirmation but no btc in my account. you wanna scam me?

Not sure why you deposited without even doing some small research first. Betking dont have good reputation anymore, from investors to gamblers they feel they got scammed by the owner. Please do some research and you will find some evidences on why betking is known as scam now
hero member
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i deposited and its close to 2 hours now with several confirmation but no btc in my account. you wanna scam me?
Was it too difficult to put "betking + scam" into google?

It is the first entry! Enjoy Cheesy
jr. member
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i deposited and its close to 2 hours now with several confirmation but no btc in my account. you wanna scam me?
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It is common fact in this forum that betking and Dean Nolan are known as scam and scammer





Dear Bitcointalk Community,

Please beware and do not use betking or touch anything related to the well known scammer Dean Nolan.

The 2 BTC that Dean Nolan scammed from bustabit.com has already cost him and betking website dearly and will continue to do so.

Dean Nolan is just a petty common thief and an opportunist who managed to scam gullible investors during and after scam ICO.
member
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claimed he gave away 25 Bitcoin to charities in December 2017 from 1st December to 25th December at 1 BTC a day as a gesture of kindness (and of-course paying for news and press releases advertising and promoting the non-existent endeavour) but never "proved" which charities he allegedly donated to yet milked all the attention....




Should be simple for you to do a google search and post links to wherever it is I apparently paid for such press releases. Oh wait, there is none because I didn't do that.

What is easily proved though is that these charities received funds. Just search my name on reddit and there is blockchain proof of transactions and comments from the people who received.
legendary
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Nice to see the forum mods still not doing their job.
Asked this thread to be locked over a year ago and messaged them yet it's still open to allow trolls to post in

And the scammer called Dean Nolan from betking who stole 2 BTC from the bustabit.com owner by using stolen pirated software is asking for this thread to be locked.

The scammer called Dean Nolan from betking who stole 2 BTC from the bustabit.com owner by using stolen pirated software now claims to be paying forum moderators now?

The scammer called Dean Nolan from betking who stole 2 BTC from the bustabit.com owner by using stolen pirated software claimed he gave away 25 Bitcoin to charities in December 2017 from 1st December to 25th December at 1 BTC a day as a gesture of kindness (and of-course paying for news and press releases advertising and promoting the non-existent endeavour) but never "proved" which charities he allegedly donated to yet milked all the attention.... and he is not paying just 2 BTC for stolen pirated software that he is using on his trashy betking website?





It is common fact in this forum that betking and Dean Nolan are known as scam and scammer


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Nice to see the forum mods still not doing their job.
Asked this thread to be locked over a year ago and messaged them yet it's still open to allow trolls to post in
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