Topic: BetKing.io - 20% Rakeback Christmas Bonus - Most trusted Bitcoin Dice site - page 5. (Read 194695 times)
March 15, 2019, 04:58:21 PM
Liar Liar Unhappyevil, Why you be always lying.
March 15, 2019, 04:55:55 PM
I played today and won a lot and these guys paid me instantly are you sure?
A newbie account that is created specifically to ask a question about betking here when it should be asked on their live chat?
Then a different account comes along with screenshots to answer and pump up the thread with positive connotations.
Scammer Dean Nolan is behind the account, if not directly then the lure of useless pathetic bounty certainly is
Anyway, I have added you to my IGNORE list
What? im confused
March 15, 2019, 04:44:36 PM
I played today and won a lot and these guys paid me instantly are you sure?
A newbie account that is created specifically to ask a question about betking here when it should be asked on their live chat?
Then a different account comes along with screenshots to answer and pump up the thread with positive connotations.
Scammer Dean Nolan is behind the account, if not directly then the lure of useless pathetic bounty certainly is
Anyway, I have added you to my IGNORE list
March 15, 2019, 04:33:39 PM
I played today and won a lot and these guys paid me instantly are you sure?
March 15, 2019, 10:49:57 AM
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If you look for an honest, trustworthy guy search for RHavar's comments on the forum regarding BetKing.
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If you look for an honest, trustworthy guy search for RHavar's comments on the forum regarding BetKing.
I remember RHavar's post regarding a plagiarism issue which is indeed a very serious offense.
The issue here is that most of his mistakes are after returning the funds. Sure, he closed down the site and returned funds but are we praising him for just giving people their own money back and ignoring everything bad he has done and will possibly do in the future?
We should never forget his mistakes but at the same time we should also take in consideration the good things hes done before.Probably use means wherein he would not have the full control to investors money, I don't know if he is using an escrow with this new investment system.
Thats the hardest part when you do already realized when its too late.You already messed up your reputation even you do already trying your best to rebuilt it but the trust wont really be the same for sure.
When you messed up, you live with the consequence of what you've done but never run away from it.
Scammer Dean Nolan has been exposed as a serial scammer and there is really no way anybody could be defending him.
March 14, 2019, 11:42:58 AM
We should never forget his mistakes but at the same time we should also take in consideration the good things hes done before.
It's not a pro/con list where you check which side has the heavier weight.Giving someone a pass because they have done X in the past is not a very wise idea, especially in crypto.
Exactly.
Just because the scammer Dean Nolan returned the bankroll BTC to investors in 2016 does not make him a saint. He returned something that he did not own. If he did not return the BTC he would be unable to have the ICO and would at some point be in jail. Simple.
Scammer Dean Nolan did it because he wanted to have the 2017 ICO to line his own pockets.
He returned the BTC bankroll to investors in 2016, because it was BTC for BTC. Thereafter he introduced his BKB fantasy token scam modell where investors gave BTC and received his BKB fantasy token. He thought with his BKB fantasy token scam scheme he is fine in regard to criminal laws, because his investors have a lower IQ range and are typically clueless in regard to legal things!
That is the key thing here, I am glad you picked up on it.
The BKB tokens that were issued in the 2017 ICO were an intricate part of the scam. The whole ICO was designed in a manner to ensure scammer Dean Nolan would be guaranteed a massive cash injection which could be diverted to any source whereas the investors would be not really get much because the "profit" calculation and conversion to US$ was a disastrous move when people send BTC they effectively lost out since they would get $ back via BKB tokens which would never ever be worth more than the BTC they were purchased for.
March 14, 2019, 10:22:51 AM
We should never forget his mistakes but at the same time we should also take in consideration the good things hes done before.
It's not a pro/con list where you check which side has the heavier weight.Giving someone a pass because they have done X in the past is not a very wise idea, especially in crypto.
Exactly.
Just because the scammer Dean Nolan returned the bankroll BTC to investors in 2016 does not make him a saint. He returned something that he did not own. If he did not return the BTC he would be unable to have the ICO and would at some point be in jail. Simple.
Scammer Dean Nolan did it because he wanted to have the 2017 ICO to line his own pockets.
He returned the BTC bankroll to investors in 2016, because it was BTC for BTC. Thereafter he introduced his BKB fantasy token scam modell where investors gave BTC and received his BKB fantasy token. He thought with his BKB fantasy token scam scheme he is fine in regard to criminal laws, because his investors have a lower IQ range and are typically clueless in regard to legal things!
March 14, 2019, 09:42:51 AM
We should never forget his mistakes but at the same time we should also take in consideration the good things hes done before.
It's not a pro/con list where you check which side has the heavier weight.Giving someone a pass because they have done X in the past is not a very wise idea, especially in crypto.
Exactly.
Just because the scammer Dean Nolan returned the bankroll BTC to investors in 2016 does not make him a saint. He returned something that he did not own. If he did not return the BTC he would be unable to have the ICO and would at some point be in jail. Simple.
Scammer Dean Nolan did it because he wanted to have the 2017 ICO to line his own pockets.
March 14, 2019, 08:58:07 AM
And no, people who are just unhappy with business decisions or that they didn't make huge profit from ICO do not count either. That does not equal a scam.
How do you draw the line between 'business decision' and scamming? Like say you issued and sold a shit load tokens that were fixed to a USD price that was guaranteed by you personally, and thus derive their value from that promise. And then say you cancel that promise (and thus complete the wealth transfer from investors to your personal pockets), would you consider that a scam or just a good business decision?
and again this reminds me of the RBIES promise from Moneypot/Dogedigital to buy back the RBIES for a Floor Price and then canceled the promise. this was a good business decision for Moneypot owners and a SCAM for the RBIES Holders. Scammers will always have excuses and Shills. Shame on them!
Of the many sad things about this situation, one is that the scammer still protests innocence and plays ignorant.
The usual games about "I said that but I meant something else" does not wash here. Scammer Dean Nolan scammed a lot of people over the betking ICO.
I suppose the saving grace for so many people was when scammer Dean Nolan used the "Crash" software without consent thus stole the 2 BTC licence fee that was due to the Bustabit owners (devans). Once that came to light you saw pure class from devans who just had not a bad word to say about scammer Dean Nolan though he accepted he had been scammed by serial scammer Dean Nolan. On the other hand, scammer Dean Nolan decided to attack RHavar and put the blame on him saying "You know we were under the opinion, wrongly, that we were able to use that code after discussing it with RHavar"
The fact scammer Dean Nolan decided to follow course and stand his ground even after being exposed by senior members of this community as a scammer and the fact he showed no remorse and did not accept his wrong ways means that whatever was left of his reputation is effectively in tatters. The betking website has no more than 20 or 30 online users at any given time. Stake, Primedice, Bitsler and several others are pushing innovation and the end is thankfully nigh for the betking scam.
It is clear betking is dying fast, using EOS tokens in the hope to lure 200,000 new users is a dream too far. Scammer Dean Nolan has himself to blame for the demise of the betking scam website and the root cause was his greed to return to the bankroll BTC funds back to investors and then use the 2017 ICO to get rich quick and keep a large share of profits for himself.
March 14, 2019, 03:15:06 AM
And no, people who are just unhappy with business decisions or that they didn't make huge profit from ICO do not count either. That does not equal a scam.
How do you draw the line between 'business decision' and scamming? Like say you issued and sold a shit load tokens that were fixed to a USD price that was guaranteed by you personally, and thus derive their value from that promise. And then say you cancel that promise (and thus complete the wealth transfer from investors to your personal pockets), would you consider that a scam or just a good business decision?
I'd say ask actual questions without making assumptions or loading them with your biased opinion.
You have zero idea what you are talking about here.
You were not a token holder, you never seemed to grasp the concept of the ICO or how our business ran.
Tell me, how much wealth did I transfer to my own pockets?
I see you have turned into one of these people who abuse the trust system and gave me negative trust without facts.
Show me proof of an investor being scammed. You can't
March 14, 2019, 01:31:56 AM
And no, people who are just unhappy with business decisions or that they didn't make huge profit from ICO do not count either. That does not equal a scam.
How do you draw the line between 'business decision' and scamming? Like say you issued and sold a shit load tokens that were fixed to a USD price that was guaranteed by you personally, and thus derive their value from that promise. And then say you cancel that promise (and thus complete the wealth transfer from investors to your personal pockets), would you consider that a scam or just a good business decision?
and again this reminds me of the RBIES promise from Moneypot/Dogedigital to buy back the RBIES for a Floor Price and then canceled the promise. this was a good business decision for Moneypot owners and a SCAM for the RBIES Holders. Scammers will always have excuses and Shills. Shame on them!
March 14, 2019, 12:32:06 AM
And no, people who are just unhappy with business decisions or that they didn't make huge profit from ICO do not count either. That does not equal a scam.
How do you draw the line between 'business decision' and scamming? Like say you issued and sold a shit load tokens that were fixed to a USD price that was guaranteed by you personally, and thus derive their value from that promise. And then say you cancel that promise (and thus complete the wealth transfer from investors to your personal pockets), would you consider that a scam or just a good business decision?
March 13, 2019, 08:16:36 PM
You know we were under the opinion, wrongly, that we were able to use that code after discussing it with RHavar.
This is absolutely ridiculous of you to drag me into this. I neither said nor implied any such thing. I would normally be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and suggest maybe you misunderstood me, but we only spoke about it after you launched with pirated software.
But I do encourage you to share anything I said that might have given you a different impression. Just make sure you include enough context, like how you first started off with "we didn't just copy it but used reference" before then later admitting you were using a minified verbatim copy of bustabit (even including some pointless bustabit debug lines) both on the client and server, and asked about known problems or exploits in the specific version you're running. So there goes the "accidental infringement" defence. Ooops.
But reviewing our conversation, my advice was to follow the terms of the AGPLv3 version (releasing modified source code) and save you paying the small licensing fee. So please don't act like you were led astray (and not to mention: I'm not a lawyer or have any rights to the source code you're using) so my opinion is rather irrelevant anyway.
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There is not any Bustabit code in the relaunched version and we even use different libraries for graphing.
That's obviously nonsense. Let's not pretend you reimplemented the entire thing in a couple days. It's exactly the same and has literally exactly the same rendering quirks and bugs that it did before. I can see you made a few obvious changes (stripped the debug lines, changed
WHOOPS !
This post shows another side of scammer Dean Nolan and his fast dying betking website to the uninitiated.
March 13, 2019, 08:13:24 PM
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Dean is that you? Mind answering my PM about the $700 tokens for which you skipped buy backs?Yes. Definitely is scammer Dean Nolan showing his maturity by using aliases.
March 13, 2019, 07:45:59 PM
JollyGood$WhereMouthis gives me a challenge
then
BetKing.io gives me a challenge
just as BTChap comes running in to save the day and apply for his useless EOS bounties. Pathetic.
Scammer Dean Nolan using aliases to attack
then
BetKing.io gives me a challenge
just as BTChap comes running in to save the day and apply for his useless EOS bounties. Pathetic.
Scammer Dean Nolan using aliases to attack
I actualy don't know who that is. I like them though.
So you are just going to ignore the request to provide evidence for your claims?
That is all the proof people will need to see that you are a liar
March 13, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
JollyGood$WhereMouthis gives me a challenge
then
BetKing.io gives me a challenge
just as BTChap comes running in to save the day and apply for his useless EOS bounties. Pathetic.
Scammer Dean Nolan using aliases to attack
This little pathetic scammer fool now decides he wants to engage in meaningful conversation with me but point-blank refused to answer my questions when I was asking investors to stay away from this scamming little thief. I told him then that I would not bother engaging with him again since he refused to answer simple questions.
Now that so many people are on to him and know he is a scamming thief little fool and he can see his betking scam website collapse around him it is clear he needs a change of angle so is trying to play all innocent and say "Oh let us ask each other questions and be cool about it"
Throwing his toys out of his pram while spitting out his dummy, this pathetic baby then went down the "I will not reply to you because I replied before" but he never addressed any points.
@LoyceV - did this scammer bother replying to your PM?
then
BetKing.io gives me a challenge
just as BTChap comes running in to save the day and apply for his useless EOS bounties. Pathetic.
Scammer Dean Nolan using aliases to attack
This little pathetic scammer fool now decides he wants to engage in meaningful conversation with me but point-blank refused to answer my questions when I was asking investors to stay away from this scamming little thief. I told him then that I would not bother engaging with him again since he refused to answer simple questions.
Now that so many people are on to him and know he is a scamming thief little fool and he can see his betking scam website collapse around him it is clear he needs a change of angle so is trying to play all innocent and say "Oh let us ask each other questions and be cool about it"
Throwing his toys out of his pram while spitting out his dummy, this pathetic baby then went down the "I will not reply to you because I replied before" but he never addressed any points.
@LoyceV - did this scammer bother replying to your PM?
March 13, 2019, 07:06:42 PM
Oh, it's my biggest fan
I see you managed to get a little crew going in here who are not players, investors or token holders to believe you and make judgement and spread lies.
Though I guess if you are sad enough to post every day for a year that's to be expected.
I'll give you a little challenge.
Provide proof of any scam I or BetKing has been involved with.
When I say proof, you have to provide actual evidence remember, not just post opinion and lies. Also putting text in large font and pretty colours doesn't make it true.
It would help your case if you could find a single token holder who has been scammed or an investor who has been scammed.
And no, people who are just unhappy with business decisions or that they didn't make huge profit from ICO do not count either. That does not equal a scam.
March 13, 2019, 07:00:38 PM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50150440
An excellent read about the possible mental state of mind regarding betking scammer Dean Nolan
An excellent read about the possible mental state of mind regarding betking scammer Dean Nolan
March 13, 2019, 06:16:29 PM
I am glad that @JollyGood is around! sadly he was not around when Moneypot scammed their Players and Investors!
@JollyGood$WhereMouthis you are not doing a good job for Dean because Dean is old enough to defend himself
Thank you @JackpotRacer
Yes sadly I was not around when the Moneypot scam took place. I heard they scammed a lot of people. I would loved to have been around fighting their propaganda and help trying to save innocent investors.
Ironically I did warn people about scammer Dean Nolan and his betking scam ICO when I first came across it in mid-2017. The original thread is full of me trying to warn people but at that time scammer Dean Nolan was giving bounties to any fool that displayed his betking avatar, that displayed his betking signature, that posted pro-betking propaganda and those that attacked people like me who tried warn investors about the scammer Dean Nolan and his scam betking website.
So they posted to attack me and drown out my posts when scammer Dean Nolan did not answer simple questions. This scammer will be investigated by UK Police because there are people on this forum that want an investigation about his activities. He registered his "company" in Costa Rica after I questioned his motives about why the whitepaper did not state if investors were dealing with an LLC/LTD or an individual - but the scammer lives in the UK, he thinks having the scam company registered in Costa Rica will be enough to stop UK Police questioning him.
Look at this fantastic link on Reddit from chazley. He tried his best to warn people and on top of that others that have been stung by this scammer Dean Nolan and his Pocket Rocket Casino and his betking websites also joined in to warn people but the campaign to entice funds from gullible investors was huge so scammer Dean Nolan got away with over $6.5 million in ICO funds but never spent the money as he promised:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/
bad investment doesnt = scam everyone should know that here look at bitcoin. Is bitcoin a scam because people lost money on bitcoin.
All the investors in his ICO were morons, he didn't have anything proprietary, he sold people on the fact he made 7000 bitcoin and thought he could do it again even though his casino probably ran above ev, but he was far to confident in a space where more and more casinos are open daily. He likely believed it was going to be a success but the great thing about the free market is competition.
March 13, 2019, 05:45:24 PM
I am glad that @JollyGood is around! sadly he was not around when Moneypot scammed their Players and Investors!
@JollyGood$WhereMouthis you are not doing a good job for Dean because Dean is old enough to defend himself
Thank you @JackpotRacer
Yes sadly I was not around when the Moneypot scam took place. I heard they scammed a lot of people. I would loved to have been around fighting their propaganda and help trying to save innocent investors.
Ironically I did warn people about scammer Dean Nolan and his betking scam ICO when I first came across it in mid-2017. The original thread is full of me trying to warn people but at that time scammer Dean Nolan was giving bounties to any fool that displayed his betking avatar, that displayed his betking signature, that posted pro-betking propaganda and those that attacked people like me who tried warn investors about the scammer Dean Nolan and his scam betking website.
So they posted to attack me and drown out my posts when scammer Dean Nolan did not answer simple questions. This scammer will be investigated by UK Police because there are people on this forum that want an investigation about his activities. He registered his "company" in Costa Rica after I questioned his motives about why the whitepaper did not state if investors were dealing with an LLC/LTD or an individual - but the scammer lives in the UK, he thinks having the scam company registered in Costa Rica will be enough to stop UK Police questioning him.
Look at this fantastic link on Reddit from chazley. He tried his best to warn people and on top of that others that have been stung by this scammer Dean Nolan and his Pocket Rocket Casino and his betking websites also joined in to warn people but the campaign to entice funds from gullible investors was huge so scammer Dean Nolan got away with over $6.5 million in ICO funds but never spent the money as he promised:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gfdxk/betking_trying_to_censor_questions_about_ico/
BEWARE
betking is a SCAM
Dean Nolan is a major SCAMMER
betking is a SCAM
Dean Nolan is a major SCAMMER
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