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Quote from: jamyr on March 05, 2019, 03:14:05 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on January 30, 2019, 10:15:14 AM

Quote from: BillyBurns on January 30, 2019, 09:35:44 AM

<---- Investor of ICO who lost every single penny on a casino, who loses 100% as a casino, quite a accomplishment.

There's an update: BetKing EOS Airdrop Whitepaper:

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10,000,000,000 BKT will be created as an EOS.IO token.

Distribution

30% Airdrop

30% Bet Mining Prize Pool

20% Promos and bounties

10% Team

10% BKB holders

Soon you can exchange your BKB tokens for BKT tokens. 100% of the BKB tokens, 70% of which was valued around $6.5 million after the ICO, will now be worth 10% of the total BKT value.
The airdrop to EOS holders alone will be "worth" 3 times more than the entire BKB supply! The math on the BKB ICO didn't check out already, but this new plan is ten times crazier.

Did I understand this correctly Dean? Please correct me if I made any mistakes.

I still have over 7k BKB tokens which I'd love to sell them back at the "value" you claim they have:$720. 64.
Let's round it down to 0.2 BTC and we're good. Deal?
I've just sent a PM asking if I can sell them back.

Hello,

If I knew how to be patient I would have held my bounty prize and tokens I bought from an ex-friend(BKBs),
but I am also happy I did not, because I know how impatient I am and I would have been constantly bugging dean every now and then.

I settled with 800sats/BKB via HitBTC when they still trade the tokens.
https://i.gyazo.com/5ca26fb27423b003c9e8a56969bd58c9.png

Even though I lost 150-ish sats buying and selling some of it.
The experience told me to quit my dream of completing a Business course. lol

Loyce, I hope everything works out well for you since you were very patient and brave to hold those tokens this long.

Quote from: game-protect on January 31, 2019, 10:47:02 AM

Can you please forward proof of your 30k lost to JollyGood, because we will hold this pig liable?

And charge them how much?
It is very funny that you used the word pig, which feed from mess and junk whilst it's you, who is intending to earn from someone else's mess.

Quote from: JollyGood on February 18, 2019, 07:37:43 PM

Have a read of scammer Dean Nolan dreaming of getting his betking scam website an extra "200,000 new potential players" thanks to the EOS token airdrop

betking and scammer Dean Nolan are commonly known as scam and scammer for good reason.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2m6u89d.png

If he is the scammer you have been calling him, and have stolen that much, wouldn't he just call it done and never show again.
I trust Dean but I am not trustworthy so I will be looking for established people/account(s) who vouched for him before,

Quote from: MICRO on December 25, 2017, 03:36:11 PM

You should be worried about any investment gambling site... Well maybe outside of betking they are the only ones i trust.

I wouldn't have said this a while ago but I certainly have no trust for Dean anymore. He did fine right up until the point he got involved in the first ICO. After that I haven't seen much other than shady decisions from him and seemingly mostly ones that hurt investors.

Now, I didn't invest in his ICO myself because I didn't really see the point of it since he (atleast so I thought) made a lot of money from the site back when it was bankroll funded. Even then he basically just kept increasing fees on investments up to charging 50% as investor fees.

I've been keeping an eye on the ICO(s) and not much positive has gotten to my attention.

I used to look up to the guy.

I think it's worth noting he also ran a competition a while ago and basically cancelled the entire 20 BTC prize pool so it's not just investors he's screwed, players too.

If you look for an honest, trustworthy guy search for RHavar's comments on the forum regarding BetKing.

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Quote from: LoyceV on January 30, 2019, 10:15:14 AM

Quote from: BillyBurns on January 30, 2019, 09:35:44 AM

<---- Investor of ICO who lost every single penny on a casino, who loses 100% as a casino, quite a accomplishment.

There's an update: BetKing EOS Airdrop Whitepaper:

Quote

10,000,000,000 BKT will be created as an EOS.IO token.

Distribution

30% Airdrop

30% Bet Mining Prize Pool

20% Promos and bounties

10% Team

10% BKB holders

Soon you can exchange your BKB tokens for BKT tokens. 100% of the BKB tokens, 70% of which was valued around $6.5 million after the ICO, will now be worth 10% of the total BKT value.
The airdrop to EOS holders alone will be "worth" 3 times more than the entire BKB supply! The math on the BKB ICO didn't check out already, but this new plan is ten times crazier.

Did I understand this correctly Dean? Please correct me if I made any mistakes.

I still have over 7k BKB tokens which I'd love to sell them back at the "value" you claim they have:$720. 64.
Let's round it down to 0.2 BTC and we're good. Deal?
I've just sent a PM asking if I can sell them back.

Hello,

If I knew how to be patient I would have held my bounty prize and tokens I bought from an ex-friend(BKBs),
but I am also happy I did not, because I know how impatient I am and I would have been constantly bugging dean every now and then.

I settled with 800sats/BKB via HitBTC when they still trade the tokens.

Even though I lost 150-ish sats buying and selling some of it.
The experience told me to quit my dream of completing a Business course. lol

Loyce, I hope everything works out well for you since you were very patient and brave to hold those tokens this long.

Quote from: game-protect on January 31, 2019, 10:47:02 AM

Can you please forward proof of your 30k lost to JollyGood, because we will hold this pig liable?

And charge them how much?
It is very funny that you used the word pig, which feed from mess and junk whilst it's you, who is intending to earn from someone else's mess.

Quote from: JollyGood on February 18, 2019, 07:37:43 PM

Have a read of scammer Dean Nolan dreaming of getting his betking scam website an extra "200,000 new potential players" thanks to the EOS token airdrop

betking and scammer Dean Nolan are commonly known as scam and scammer for good reason.

If he is the scammer you have been calling him, and have stolen that much, wouldn't he just call it done and never show again.
I trust Dean but I am not trustworthy so I will be looking for established people/account(s) who vouched for him before,

Quote from: MICRO on December 25, 2017, 03:36:11 PM

You should be worried about any investment gambling site... Well maybe outside of betking they are the only ones i trust.

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well i will say the chat is back and the site is looking very clean some volume being bet again. I like the additions hopefully the forward progress continues.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 19, 2019, 02:12:10 AM

Investor Stats: Bankroll: 12.06665726 BTC.
Right after the ICO, BetKing wanted to have the highest max profit per bet from all online Bitcoin casinos. It looks like the bankroll now comes from investors only.

What happened to the 500 BTC, 2250 ETH & 425 LTC that was supposed to be used to bankroll the scam?

This scammer made over 1000 BTC, over 4500 ETC and over 850 LTC worth over $6.5 million at the time and his ICO promise was to use 50% of all ICO funds for bankroll.

The pathetic scammers has tried to use betking as a cash-cow trying to raise as much money as possible with a view to trying to pocket for himself as much money as possible.

If only this pathetic scammer could have forseen that returnin original bankroll investors cash and closing the betking website only to re-open with an identical website after the ICO was going to bring this much disastrous consequences he would never have done it. During those months he closed betking down and re-opened after the ICO he lost ground to too many competitors as users went elsewhere.

He thought he was better off having an ICO for the bankroll because he could siphon-off ICO funds to his own pockets because he would not have to audit to anybody but he messed up. This pathetic scammer stole from the ICO funds and he will have to audit when UK police ask him questions about his betking scam.

Whether he really has that army of lawyers and accountants he previously claimed to have is a different question altogether.

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Investor Stats: Bankroll: 12.06665726 BTC.
Right after the ICO, BetKing wanted to have the highest max profit per bet from all online Bitcoin casinos. It looks like the bankroll now comes from investors only.

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Have a read of scammer Dean Nolan dreaming of getting his betking scam website an extra "200,000 new potential players" thanks to the EOS token airdrop

betking and scammer Dean Nolan are commonly known as scam and scammer for good reason.

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This is a release by scammer Dean Nolan: https://medium.com/@BetKingIO/how-bkb-holders-benefit-from-the-new-eos-airdrop-ee1941d349f8

How BKB holders benefit from the new EOS airdrop
BetKing
Feb 2

There have been some concerns from existing BKB (BetKing Bankroll) token holders that the new EOS token and Airdrop will dilute their share of the profit from the BetKing.io platform.

The main argument is that the new EOS token we are creating, BKT, has 30% of the supply airdropped to EOS account holders on the EOS blockchain and only 10% of the supply shared with BKB holders.

Larger share of BKT supply than it looks

There will be 10,000,000,000 BKT tokens created on the EOS blockchain.

50% of these tokens will be locked and released only as users bet or trade on the BetKing platform.

There are currently over 906,000,000 EOS in circulation and they trade at around $2.50 at time of writing.

There were 100,000,000 BKB tokens created on the ETH blockchain.

However 50,000,000 of these will be burned from BetKings own holdings before the new BKT token is distributed. BKB currently has a buy back price of $0.099.

We can see that EOS holders will receive around 3.3 BKT for every 1 EOS in their account during the airdrop.

BKB holders will receive 20 BKT per 1 BKB they swap.

Meaning BKB holders will receive 6 times the BKT tokens as EOS holders even though EOS trades at 25x the price of BKB.

After 6 months from the launch date, any BKB that has not been swapped for BKT will be burned if held in BetKing wallets or excluded from swapping to BKT if held in a personal wallet.

Any BKT leftover from the initial 10% reserved for BKB holders will also be burned after 6 months reducing the BKT supply.

There will likely be a lot of dormant or inaccessible EOS accounts that won’t be able to claim their airdropped tokens. These will be burned after 6 months if not claimed.

Exchanges and accounts that hold over 250,000 EOS will be excluded from the airdrop and the BKT that would be dropped to them will be burned, further reducing the supply.

This shows that far less than 50% of the total BKT supply will be in circulation on launch.

Larger profit share

Profit share between bankroll providers and BKT token holders is split 50/50 on the new platform and dividends are paid every hour to token holders.

The old platform had only 10% of profit distributed to BKB token holders.

Only BKT holders who have deposited their funds to BetKing and are actively staking them will receive dividends. So no profit is shared to EOS holders who will never claim their tokens.

BKB holders will likely swap for BKT and start staking before anyone else.

A whole new market of players

The new EOS airdrop allows us to reach a whole new audience of players who have never heard of or played on BetKing before.

There are almost 700,000 EOS accounts that will get free BKT in the airdrop.

That’s a large amount of potential new players looking to play with their new tokens, trade or stake them to earn profit from the BetKing platform.

Players have more incentive than ever to play as we have a new feature called “bet mining” where for every bet players make in any currency they will receive BKT instantly to their account as rakeback which can be traded or staked. 30% of the total BKT will be released this way.

We have an hourly leaderboard that pays out BKT automatically to the top ten accounts that earned the most points each hour.

20% of all BKT will be released in promotions like this and in bounties for users who share posts or links via social media to help promote BetKing.

Greater demand

There are a number of reasons why people may want to own or buy BKT.

The main one being to get a share of the profit earned from betting and trading fees. BKT holders get dividends every hour.

BKT also allows bankroll providers to pay 50% of the commission on their profit with BKT.

Traders can also receive 50% discount on trade fees by paying the fee in BKT.

All withdrawal fees can be paid with BKT also.

This gives real use and value to the new token and will help provide liquidity of the token on the new exchange platform.

Summary

We hope this clears up any concerns existing token holders had of dilution and that this explains a lot of the new benefits and exciting opportunities of the new platform by joining the EOS community and switching to the EOS blockchain for our new token.

You can see how BKB holders can actually get BKT a lot cheaper than EOS holders during the switch.

For investors or players who would like to get BKT to stake or use on the new platform you can buy BKB now on the BetKing.io exchange and receive 20 BKT per 1 BKB after the new platform launches.

This is the only way scammer Dean Nolan sees as a get-rich-quick technique, by tokens and selling, selling and re-selling the betking name. Fool does not understand that people have caught on to the betking scam now.

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 04, 2019, 06:14:45 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on February 04, 2019, 06:03:00 AM

Never know, after reading your posts maybe scammer Dean Nolan will get back to you in the hope of silencing you by offering you the 0.2BTC for your betking tokens.

I thought of that too, and I don't want it to look like a bribe (or blackmail).
Then again, I've created scam accusations without being personally involved in the past, so I can do it again. But like I said, it's a lot of work (and quite boring to do).

Absolutely right, there might be accusations of bribe taking thrown at you but either way you are only asking for what is your right (a betking token swap for BTC)

I can PM you some links and some information you might find handy if you like. That way you can decide for yourself if you want to make a scam accusation thread or not.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 04, 2019, 06:03:00 AM

Never know, after reading your posts maybe scammer Dean Nolan will get back to you in the hope of silencing you by offering you the 0.2BTC for your betking tokens.

I thought of that too, and I don't want it to look like a bribe (or blackmail).
Then again, I've created scam accusations without being personally involved in the past, so I can do it again. But like I said, it's a lot of work (and quite boring to do).

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 04, 2019, 05:36:28 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on February 04, 2019, 05:30:18 AM

You seem a very intelligent person so why hold out for any reply addressing your concerns and questions

The reason I haven't created a scam accusation thread yet, is that it'll take a lot of time to find all details. The ICO-information was spread out over a few threads, that's a lot of posts to read again.
If/when I do it, I want it to be a complete accusation, and after that I expect red tags to accumulate (like here).

I read that link, thank you for providing it.

Yes the ICO information was spread out over many pages and there was no real ICO whitepaper so gathering the information is not going to be quick if you wanted to do so.

Never know, after reading your posts maybe scammer Dean Nolan will get back to you in the hope of silencing you by offering you the 0.2BTC for your betking tokens.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 04, 2019, 05:30:18 AM

You seem a very intelligent person so why hold out for any reply addressing your concerns and questions

The reason I haven't created a scam accusation thread yet, is that it'll take a lot of time to find all details. The ICO-information was spread out over a few threads, that's a lot of posts to read again.
If/when I do it, I want it to be a complete accusation, and after that I expect red tags to accumulate (like here).

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Quote from: LoyceV on February 04, 2019, 05:19:31 AM

There's another update: How BKB holders benefit from the new EOS airdrop.
It reminds me of the BKB ICO: just throw around some numbers, most people won't verify it anyway.

Example:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 30, 2019, 10:15:14 AM

I still have over 7k BKB tokens which I'd love to sell them back at the "value" you claim they have:$720. 64.
Let's round it down to 0.2 BTC and we're good. Deal?
I've just sent a PM asking if I can sell them back.

I didn't get a reply to my PM (which I sent to 2 known accounts).

You seem a very intelligent person so why hold out for any reply addressing your concerns and questions, or any reply at all when you know what scammer Dean Nolan is like?

Your question about 0.2 BTC for your betking tokens is a fair one but this pathetic scammer has no intention of buying your betking tokens back at the favorable rates you quoted.

His reputation is in tatters. He raised $6.5 million from the betking ICO and makde promises of where the funds would be spent (50% to go to bankroll and various going to developing new games etc) yet he did nothing apart from siphon off the funds and line his own pocket. He is now playing a new game "re-launching" betking again with a re-designed site and these new EOS tokens.

This scammer Dean Nolan is one of the lowest of the low.

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There's another update: How BKB holders benefit from the new EOS airdrop.
It reminds me of the BKB ICO: just throw around some numbers, most people won't verify it anyway.

Example:

Quote from: LoyceV on January 30, 2019, 10:15:14 AM

I still have over 7k BKB tokens which I'd love to sell them back at the "value" you claim they have:$720. 64.
Let's round it down to 0.2 BTC and we're good. Deal?
I've just sent a PM asking if I can sell them back.

I didn't get a reply to my PM (which I sent to 2 known accounts).

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Quote from: Lassie on January 30, 2019, 06:12:19 PM

In my honest opinion, nothing has changed that much, its just too many people trust Dean and they dont see the negatives in the past and now that lsrger amount or amount is involve they are looking on more aspects

I have to agree with your views. Now that the blinds have been lifted people are seeing scammer Dean Nolan for what he really is.

He made no announcement on his official betking thread about the EOS token scam he is conducting, instead he went to Medium to release that information.

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Quote from: theskillzdatklls on January 30, 2019, 05:00:01 PM

I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG

He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone.

This would explain his curious behavior! Some years prison time awaiting investment scammer Dean Nolan! Cheesy

Can you please forward proof of your 30k lost to JollyGood, because we will hold this pig liable?

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Quote from: theskillzdatklls on January 30, 2019, 05:00:01 PM

I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG

He went broke trading alt coins, according to him he was tired of alt coiners making more gains than him so he started trading and he got liquidated for everything, this is not a lie I was told to keep hush but I ain't letting this dude get away with another scam, my 30k is long gone. Now the interesting thing is to speculate is if he used ico funds to gamble on is bitmmex acc or otc trades. Fromm y point of view since the inception of Ico it seems he is doing everything in his power for it to fail.

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Quote from: dis93 on January 30, 2019, 09:48:28 AM

Ahhh, dice betking now almost dead. Few people last week played dice.
I think there is no need bump it without remembering past scam

Scammer Dean Nolan realises that the website is virtually dead so he is trying to maximise any way he can which would allow him to put the money directly in to his own pocket. ICOs and tokens are the easiest way.

This scammer wrote in his bitsafe ICO whitepaper that he was going to transition all betking BKB tokens to bitsafe tokens and would phase out betking and concentrate solely on "bitsafe" yet here he is now trying to salvage the situation at betking by finding ways that are designed to line his own pockets by fooling investors.

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Quote from: theskillzdatklls on January 30, 2019, 05:00:01 PM

I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG

In my honest opinion, nothing has changed that much, its just too many people trust Dean and they dont see the negatives in the past and now that lsrger amount or amount is involve they are looking on more aspects

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Quote from: BillyBurns on January 30, 2019, 09:35:44 AM

<---- Investor of ICO who lost every single penny on a casino, who loses 100% as a casino, quite a accomplishment. Never even did a buy back because I assume easy money maker but Dean seemed to be sabotaging it the whole way. The Poker addition was LOL I did warn him that nobody would use it, and then he decided that he needed to offer better prices than other sports books to get more volume ( LOL LOL LOL) guy is not a high level thinker.

The whole thing regarding the way he tried to money grab by using ICOs as a way to line his own pockets was a total disgrace.

Before he started this new BKT token scam he tried to fool RHavar in to investing in betking and his recent venture trying to pass off a cheap template of a mobile phone app exchange as a reason to raise $10 million in an ICO for his "bitsafe" project which he has temporarily pulled the plug on as nobody wanted to invest.

Sometimes he says he wants to convert betking tokens to bitsafe tokens and close betking down, then sometimes he says something else.

What a pathetic little scammer Dean Nolan is.

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I wonder where things went wrong. He had such a good website back in the day and I'm really grateful for that. He always was a little miscalibrated but intentions were good. Then something just plummeted off of the deep end during the bear market I guess. GG

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