Topic: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan - page 10. (Read 31297 times)

Where is the crime reference number the Police would have given him?

Why did he not report the alleged crime to the Police?

I updated the OP of the betking Legal Action thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-legal-action-against-dean-nolan-betkingio-5047787

Please be sure, his next project is very real but he needs to be reported to the police before it can get off the ground.

If just one investor reporting him will put the police spotlight on him and he will not start his next project.

His next project will be a version of his Bitsafe project. He intended to raise $10 million from it in November 2018 but failed.

The script is complete, the exchange is complete, the software is ready - he used funds from betking to complete all that so he does not need an ICO but he wants to pocket the cash like he did with the betking ICO. Are you sure he will pay you? I know he will not.

The person that claimed a theft took place on his secure server is the same person that promises to pay you after you allow him time to start a new scam?

A simple question, please ask him for the following: what is the "Crime Reference Number" the UK police gave him  when he reported the alleged theft of over $400,000 in Bitcoin...

I mean, he is living in the UK so he did report it to the UK police right? If he did not report it, did you ever ask yourself why he did not report it? And if he did report it, what is the Crime Reference Number?

Here is my view, I guarantee you that he did not report it to the police.

He needs to be reported to the police. I will help do all the work but I need just one of the 20 remaining investors to forget the lies serial scammer Dean Nolan is spinning and instead report him to the police so he can be stopped before he scams a new set of investors out of millions.

He said in the email he was gonna raise the money through some new project. I really don't know the details of it. Probably not even a real thing.

@ camtheman

@ BillyBurms

Can you please tell us what serial scammer Dean Nolan claims he is doing now?

Please will you consider reporting this matter to the Police? It is the only chance you have of getting your funds back after the Courts seize his assets and sell them off to pay you back what he stole from you

Unless you want to get scammed for more, don't even consider working with Game-Protect.  "Give me some money and I'll recover the money you've been scammed for" is his thing.  He's only here in hopes of finding one of Betkings victims to scam.


I won't derail this thread any more and just leave it at that for now.

^^ I really think that is all depending on the judge and making people believe "funding" and "investment" is viable for bitcoin investments. People forget that this is not fiat, so in the end if you give someone bitcoin as an investment and expect dividends or basically profits then you are doing exactly the same thing that fiat investors do but your country may not accept bitcoin as real money and your investment as real investment so not give that person a real punishment.

Hence, why I am saying that (which could be not true for UK) that we need to see an example first, if we could have one example decision that bitcoin investors were scammed and the scammer got punished then we can get tons of people who will follow that and sue people that scammed them.

Thank you for your post.

In the UK if you give money as a investment and the individual or company you invest in turns out to be a scam - there are criminal consequences especially if correct legal protocol was not followed. In this case, betking was operated by serial scammer Dean Nolan without the protection of a company when he scammed the final bankroll funds of 50+ BTC. It means under UK law he personally is liable as the law makes no distinction between betking.io and serial scammer Dean Nolan - they are effectively one and the same as far as the law is concerned.

The only thing could have dragged out his protection for a few months more would have been "BetKing S.R.L. Costa Rica Registration Number 3-102-744110" but that was dead a long time ago because he did not want to pay the fees to stay registered off-shore and ran a casino illegally under his own name.

He is liable, eventually at least one investor will step forward and will want to make a Police complaint and that will be the beginning of the process that leads serial scammer Dean Nolan to a jail cell on multiple fraud convictions. 

I think it wouldn't really matter even if you have the documents and addresses and all the legal stuff because the reality is that most countries do not have right protective laws for the token investors. Now, if you can convince a judge that this is an investment like any other investment then it is an easy case, open and shut, you win.

However, if you can't convince them that token purchasing is an investment like any other share buying then you will have hard time convincing anyone including a judge that this guy is a scammer, even if he is then the judge would just say "you lost some play money to him" or something like that. Some courts still consider bitcoin not proper currency let alone tokens, so it might as well be you buying world of warcraft money from someone to them.

I have contact to an UK lawyer specialized on internet crimes like the BetKing scam.

Can we make a list of the damage caused?

You should probably change the title to highlight this.

Great to know, thank you for your generosity.

All that is needed now is for investors who want to see this serial scammer Dean Nolan in jail and want to have any hope of seeing their money again is to get together and form a "Victims of Betking Group". There can work together to discuss the way forward including whether one single complaint to the Police with all victims listed as plaintiffs would suffice or whether victims would be making individual complaints.

I hope victims accept that serial scammer Dean Nolan is trying to buy time and they simply start collating evidence so a criminal investigation start as soon as possible.

In any case, i'm willing to donate money as well.

Can we agree to disagree as far as UK Police Cyber Crime Unit is concerned?

As far as spending money for "tracking down" serial scammer Dean Nolan is concerned it is not necessary, I will personally give his current address to a UK based law firm (so they can file a case) after they have been appointed by victims of the betking crime if they follow a civil route but before any civil action is to start they should report the matter to the Police. Yes, some people in the forum already know his current address.

I have offered my services free of charge to help collate evidence and present it to the Police.

I am willing to donate money to help pay for a UK lawyer as long as victims donate too but the Police must be told first and they must be given time to investigate.

No they won't.

Things are not working like that in scotland. Police kinda careless when it comes to bitcoin offenses. As sad as it sounds, this is the truth.

There is no need to track him down. Several people already know his current address and that is all that is required to have legal documents served on him but there is no need to do anything like that because once the Police are involved they will not let him off the hook. They will arrest him, they will charge him with various counts of theft and fraud and he will go to jail.