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Topic: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan - page 13. (Read 31038 times)

legendary
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I think the part that is funniest, is how all this happened when the domain expired. It's like after taking investors money he put so little effort into the site he couldn't even be bothered to renew the domain. And then couldn't even be bothered to bring the site back online, and still has been too lazy to spend the 2 minutes of effort required to putting up a page that tell his customers/investors what happened.

Dean's a real piece of shit. I hope this all comes back to haunt him.


But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously.

Why don't you just do it now? It's not like you don't have the money...


If he pays investors back right now it means he would be eating in to a tiny chunk of the $2.74+ million siphoned-off by stealing those 30 million BKB tokens. If he is not doing it then it means there is way much more than this than meets the eye.

If memory serves me correct the domain was supposed to expire on 14 October 2019 and I noticed the website was not working on that same day. Maybe the website was down before 14th October 2019 but regardless I think the domain expiring ever had any issue to do with the website being down because it was being diverted via the Cloudflare nameserver anyway.

What I gathered so far is that he sent emails to investors (on the day he pulled the plug on the betking website) informing them there was a problem, he had to close the website and that he would give updates as soon as possible. I think it was today around 10 days later he sent emails to investors informing them there were no funds remaining because they were stolen.

Well since he has the database he can publicly post the ALL the wallet addresses where the stolen crypto was sent and he can also post the the hot wallets and cold wallets addresses too. That would be a start to prove if there was really a scam or if he stole the funds and blamed an imaginary hack. He can also explain why he transferred all of the cold wallet funds to the hot wallet which would have been very convenient if they were to be stolen.
legendary
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I think the part that is funniest, is how all this happened when the domain expired. It's like after taking investors money he put so little effort into the site he couldn't even be bothered to renew the domain. And then couldn't even be bothered to bring the site back online, and still has been too lazy to spend the 2 minutes of effort required to putting up a page that tell his customers/investors what happened.

Dean's a real piece of shit. I hope this all comes back to haunt him.


But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously.

Why don't you just do it now? It's not like you don't have the money...
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But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously.


No, that part was not mentioned by any of the three users.

We all noticed you did pay 26.4 LTC (in LTC and ETH equivalent) to a user that requested it ( https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52755159 ) but how will pay back exact amount of crypto which at the moment is to the tune $400,000?

For example, if somebody invested 1x Bitcoin a week or a year ago he would want the same back and rightly so but if Bitcoin were to double in price next month and your current $400,000 spend was to turn in to an $800,000 spend - how will you manage to return funds to investors?

With the website down it is impossible the funds would come from there and even if it was up and running the amounts being generated were tiny. How will you return funds to investors and how long do you expect it to take?
legendary
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They are not lying it is true

Did you receive any email identical to what the newbies claim?



yes and what the original poster  posted is what it contained

But not the part where I said I will pay everyone back. Obviously.

legendary
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They are not lying it is true

Did you receive any email identical to what the newbies claim?

yes and what the original poster  posted is what it contained


What are you going to do next? Will you try to retrieve some/all of your investment?
sr. member
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They are not lying it is true

Did you receive any email identical to what the newbies claim?



yes and what the original poster  posted is what it contained
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They are not lying it is true

Did you receive any email identical to what the newbies claim?

sr. member
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Here is what what Dean said:
I will confirm that I received the same email from Dean.
Both of you, please post some screenshots of the email you received after hiding your personal data. Thank you.



Pretty obvious this is not based on reality.
Maybe you are on to something. Let us see if they post any screenshots of the correspondence.


They are not lying it is true
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Here is what what Dean said:
I will confirm that I received the same email from Dean.
Both of you, please post some screenshots of the email you received after hiding your personal data. Thank you.



Pretty obvious this is not based on reality.
Maybe you are on to something. Let us see if they post any screenshots of the correspondence.
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Here is what what Dean said:

As you will have likely seen BetKing has been offline for around a week.
BetKing will remain offline indefinitely with this being the last in a string of problems over the past year.

A serious issue was found last month after we launched a new dice site to test if a new brand would have more success than BetKing has had post ICO.

The new site was a clone of BetKing. We had been talking to investors about doing a series of sites like this with a shared bankroll and this one was released in time to try and capture traffic from yolodice.com who were closing their investment feature.

After a few days players had drained the bankroll and withdrew funds from the hot wallet.

After a review with the developers we found that there was an actual flaw in the code that allowed anyone to view their server seed and predict the result of their dice rolls, essentially being able to win every bet.
It turned out that this code had existed on BetKing also since January on both the dice and burst dice games and people had been using it to win bets undetected. It is not yet known if a developer added this code deliberately to cause abuse or if it was an honest mistake.
It wasn't until recently, after processing larger withdrawals and then finding the bug, that the discrepency in balances and funds available was noticed with now there being no funds left to process any remaining withdrawals.

At the time the site went offline there was a backup of all balances and pending withdrawal amounts captured.
There are around 20 bankroll investors who had more than $1000 on site, for a total of around $400,000.



Pretty obvious this is not based on reality.
legendary
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I also was not aware of a clone site, but who knows if it even existed? Could just be another confabulation. You bring up a great point on this... the hot wallet was constantly being refilled, how could he not notice these withdrawals. In addition, the bankrolls stated Betking was in the BLACK.

Even if there was a secret "clone site", it shows how hilariously dishonest Dean is. He's basically saying he risked peoples money to run a secret site, that he didn't want to cut them in on.

This is no different than DMF of dice.ninja who used investor/players money to gamble on other casinos (until eventually he epically busted on PrimeDice and lost it all). Then just went totally dark. And offered a few signed messages promising people who was going to make repayments (which he never did, of course).

Amazingly even though his identity was known, because of lack of any prosecution he managed to get away with embezzling millions of dollars. I guess Dean is hoping he can get away with the same fate.
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Here is what what Dean said:

As you will have likely seen BetKing has been offline for around a week.
BetKing will remain offline indefinitely with this being the last in a string of problems over the past year.

A serious issue was found last month after we launched a new dice site to test if a new brand would have more success than BetKing has had post ICO.

The new site was a clone of BetKing. We had been talking to investors about doing a series of sites like this with a shared bankroll and this one was released in time to try and capture traffic from yolodice.com who were closing their investment feature.

After a few days players had drained the bankroll and withdrew funds from the hot wallet.

After a review with the developers we found that there was an actual flaw in the code that allowed anyone to view their server seed and predict the result of their dice rolls, essentially being able to win every bet.
It turned out that this code had existed on BetKing also since January on both the dice and burst dice games and people had been using it to win bets undetected. It is not yet known if a developer added this code deliberately to cause abuse or if it was an honest mistake.
It wasn't until recently, after processing larger withdrawals and then finding the bug, that the discrepency in balances and funds available was noticed with now there being no funds left to process any remaining withdrawals.

At the time the site went offline there was a backup of all balances and pending withdrawal amounts captured.
There are around 20 bankroll investors who had more than $1000 on site, for a total of around $400,000.




I will confirm that I received the same email from Dean.

I'm obviously super skeptical but you would think you could come up with a better lie.


Who are the players who drained the clone site and how did they know about it? I wasn't even aware of the clone site.

Were there never any audits done to check balances against reserves??

Larger withdrawals weren't automated and I believe that the hot wallet had to be topped up from cold storage...Was he not looking into these large wins/withdrawals. I don't believe I saw any big wins against my bankroll investment when checking...

No one is going to invest in any other project he's associated with, he's delusional to think he can reimburse everyone that way. He shouldn't be in charge of anything.

He closed down the telegram a few months ago... was it to make it harder for people to coordinate against this exit?




I also was not aware of a clone site, but who knows if it even existed? Could just be another confabulation. You bring up a great point on this... the hot wallet was constantly being refilled, how could he not notice these withdrawals. In addition, the bankrolls stated Betking was in the BLACK.
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I have always felt that he is kind of a scammer, yet it became the truth. I hope everyone can recover their losses but I'm not optimistic about it.
legendary
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Disgusted and Gutted, How can funds that not even invested in bankroll be lost, gamblers can't win more than investors have invested makes no sense to me how that can be possible


I think he is definitely lying about a hack taking place. It is a convenient exit-scam just as many exchanges do BUT he slipped up and did not cover all his bases because do you not remember what he said on numerous occasions in the betking website chat as recent as days before he removed it citing people were not using it and he preferred Telegram instead?

If you try to think hard you will remember he apologised to winners on betking website chat numerous times for them not being able to withdraw wins because:

" I did not top up the hot wallet from the cold wallet as all funds are kept safe. I will top it up now "

He used to top up manually every 2-3 days to protect the cold wallet from a hack so why did he put all the crypto on the hot wallet just before an alleged hack took place? He made no noise about it by posting it here int he hope to keep it silent for as long as he could before users exposed him.

This pathetic imbecile serial scammer deserves jail time or the very least for Scotland Police (Sheriff) to investigate the scam and decide if can be prosecuted.
sr. member
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Disgusted and Gutted, How can funds that not even invested in bankroll be lost, gamblers can't win more than investors have invested makes no sense to me how that can be possible
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If anyone's in the UK, it should be reasonably easy to get your money back. Just start a legal case against him, and I guarantee he'll just settle instead of trying to fight it (after all he has everyone's money, and he knows he's in the wrong). I think the only tricky thing would be to initially serve him, but the public company records should give a pretty good place to start from:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/nK73h2CygjC43aISY_mEnOF0JaM/appointments

RHavar you are a star  Grin

Thank you for that link.

I am making a PROMISE to make a donation to any group wanting to start a lawsuit against him.

I will also help any investors seeking legal action by liaising with them, collating evidence and even finding a suitable Scotland based lawyer who can start the process. As soon as investors wake up to the fact they have been scammed by serial scammer imbecile Dean Nolan and want to start action - do it.

He deliberately shut down the betking Telegram because it would stifle debate amongst investors and stop them collaborating when discussing their legal options. I have no doubt serial scammer Dean Nolan had this planned from a long time ago but delayed it because he was hoping to get Yolodice investors to give their funds to him before exit-scamming. Those funds never arrived so serial scammer Dean Nolan decided to run off with what he had.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-alert-legal-action-against-dean-nolan-betkingio-5047787
legendary
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If anyone's in the UK, it should be reasonably easy to get your money back. Just start a legal case against him, and I guarantee he'll just settle instead of trying to fight it (after all he has everyone's money, and he knows he's in the wrong). I think the only tricky thing would be to initially serve him, but the public company records should give a pretty good place to start from:

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/nK73h2CygjC43aISY_mEnOF0JaM/appointments

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Here is what what Dean said:

As you will have likely seen BetKing has been offline for around a week.
BetKing will remain offline indefinitely with this being the last in a string of problems over the past year.

A serious issue was found last month after we launched a new dice site to test if a new brand would have more success than BetKing has had post ICO.

The new site was a clone of BetKing. We had been talking to investors about doing a series of sites like this with a shared bankroll and this one was released in time to try and capture traffic from yolodice.com who were closing their investment feature.

After a few days players had drained the bankroll and withdrew funds from the hot wallet.

After a review with the developers we found that there was an actual flaw in the code that allowed anyone to view their server seed and predict the result of their dice rolls, essentially being able to win every bet.
It turned out that this code had existed on BetKing also since January on both the dice and burst dice games and people had been using it to win bets undetected. It is not yet known if a developer added this code deliberately to cause abuse or if it was an honest mistake.
It wasn't until recently, after processing larger withdrawals and then finding the bug, that the discrepency in balances and funds available was noticed with now there being no funds left to process any remaining withdrawals.

At the time the site went offline there was a backup of all balances and pending withdrawal amounts captured.
There are around 20 bankroll investors who had more than $1000 on site, for a total of around $400,000.




I will confirm that I received the same email from Dean.

I'm obviously super skeptical but you would think you could come up with a better lie.


Who are the players who drained the clone site and how did they know about it? I wasn't even aware of the clone site.

Were there never any audits done to check balances against reserves??

Larger withdrawals weren't automated and I believe that the hot wallet had to be topped up from cold storage...Was he not looking into these large wins/withdrawals. I don't believe I saw any big wins against my bankroll investment when checking...

No one is going to invest in any other project he's associated with, he's delusional to think he can reimburse everyone that way. He shouldn't be in charge of anything.

He closed down the telegram a few months ago... was it to make it harder for people to coordinate against this exit?

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Here is what what Dean said:

As you will have likely seen BetKing has been offline for around a week.
BetKing will remain offline indefinitely with this being the last in a string of problems over the past year.

A serious issue was found last month after we launched a new dice site to test if a new brand would have more success than BetKing has had post ICO.

The new site was a clone of BetKing. We had been talking to investors about doing a series of sites like this with a shared bankroll and this one was released in time to try and capture traffic from yolodice.com who were closing their investment feature.

After a few days players had drained the bankroll and withdrew funds from the hot wallet.

After a review with the developers we found that there was an actual flaw in the code that allowed anyone to view their server seed and predict the result of their dice rolls, essentially being able to win every bet.
It turned out that this code had existed on BetKing also since January on both the dice and burst dice games and people had been using it to win bets undetected. It is not yet known if a developer added this code deliberately to cause abuse or if it was an honest mistake.
It wasn't until recently, after processing larger withdrawals and then finding the bug, that the discrepency in balances and funds available was noticed with now there being no funds left to process any remaining withdrawals.

At the time the site went offline there was a backup of all balances and pending withdrawal amounts captured.
There are around 20 bankroll investors who had more than $1000 on site, for a total of around $400,000.

This is a very new account for a very large claim.

I hope Dean is gone though.
legendary
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Well, scammers are going to scam. The whole story makes so little sense, there's no point even trying to pick it apart. And even if it was true, Dean could easily personally cover it. He had a significant amount of bitcoin (to the point he felt comfortable "retiring") and then came back and made at least a few million from "investors". Last year (before he turned so overtly scammy), I was in talks with Dean to buy bustabit and iirc the number we were discussing was around 10M USD (iirc). Thank fuck that never happened, and I sold to Daniel instead.

And to players/bankrollers/investors: Sorry for your loss. I wouldn't get your hopes up about any promises. It's pretty much exit-scam 101, as a low effort way try taper people's anger .
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