I like the design and the layout from the website. It looks decent and attractive. There are also many games to be offered.
The only minus is that there is a license from Costa Rica. It is not an official gambling license, as many people already discussed on the site. On the other hand, there are many other sites from Costa Rica with a reputable name. So the website will be as good as the reputation will be. Let us just wait from some players how they experience this site. I might try it by myself later on.
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March 11, 2021, 05:56:37 AM
March 11, 2021, 05:05:57 AM
What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?
This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.
This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.
Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it
Signature campaigns are straightforward. See how most of us have it just below our post? You design one for those, sign people up to wear those (plus Avatars and profile messages) and then you automatically have your banner displayed below EVERY post the wearer ever made:)
Very effective IF you get high quality posters active in the right sub-forums:)
February 25, 2021, 07:39:31 AM
Welcome to this forum
It's fine if a platform claims to be "first" or "greatest". When players have made a deposit, the currency that showed will still Bitcoin or will it be converted to Fiat?
It's fine if a platform claims to be "first" or "greatest". When players have made a deposit, the currency that showed will still Bitcoin or will it be converted to Fiat?
Thank you! For the moment it only shows in micro-bitcoin (uBTC).
Please note that we are temporarily turning off USDT on Betplay.io due to Ethereum network congestion and high fees. We will reevaluate this later and we are also looking into support for other USDT networks outside of Ethereum. Being able to provide fast and low cost payments are very important to us and right now we do not feel that USDT on ETH network meets our requirements.
Had a visit to the site. Quite good in all aspects, I didn't made a signup. From the overview it looks more of a trusted platform, and it has added games from different development platforms. This will help people preferring different scripts to give a try. However the gambling market is highly competent, and trust is much required to attract gamblers use the platform. Look for all the possible sources and add more trust. Lightening Network is good and adds attraction as very few platforms have started making use of it.
Thank you for your comments.
We are currently integrating more premium providers, such as Netent, Pragmatic, Play'nGo etc, so our players have more variations of games. Any suggestion you might have, for us to gain more trust, are highly welcomed!
I was happy to read your post that you wont be collecting personal data for deposits and withdrawals, but your TOS claims otherwise. If KYC wont be asked during deposits and withdrawals, can you give us examples of when and why you might use it? I am interested because you don't have a gambling license. Did I understand correctly that I have the right to refuse submitting my personal data to you? If so, what happens with my funds and my winnings?
My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.
My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.
Sorry for our late reply on this, so regarding KYC, the reason for why we still have that is because it is a requirement for us to have in our TOS if we want to go for the Curacao license. And as mentioned before we have had in plan to go for that license and that is why we chose to still keep it in our TOS. However, we have spoken internally and will remove that clause from our TOS until we have the license, because as you mentioned it is not necessary while we don't have a license. The "user contributions" is in our TOS because of upcoming promotions where we will show the players chosen username when they have won a big bet for example.
Hey all,
We are running two promotions now on Friday and Saturday. If you would like to participate we would love your feedback, mostly on the Myster Cash Drop!
I am sure most of you have received the email about the promotion but I will post it here as well. On Friday the 12th of March we will be running the 25% Cashback Race and on Saturday the 13th of March we will also be running our new promotion called Mystery Cash Drop!
To participate for the Mega Cash Drop promotion simply make a minimum deposit of 1000 uBTC between 12th of March at 23.59 CET and the 13th of March at 23.59 CET to have a chance to get a secret Cash Drop on your account.
The rules are if you get the Cash Drop, then the Cash is yours with no wagering requirements. You will have one hour to either withdraw the Cash or play for it! If you have not withdrawn or played with the Cash before the one hour mark the Cash will go to another lucky player!
Have a great day!
What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?
This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.
This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.
Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it
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February 24, 2021, 11:15:10 PM
Had a visit to the site. Quite good in all aspects, I didn't made a signup. From the overview it looks more of a trusted platform, and it has added games from different development platforms. This will help people preferring different scripts to give a try. However the gambling market is highly competent, and trust is much required to attract gamblers use the platform. Look for all the possible sources and add more trust. Lightening Network is good and adds attraction as very few platforms have started making use of it.
February 24, 2021, 10:49:13 PM
Welcome to this forum
It's fine if a platform claims to be "first" or "greatest". When players have made a deposit, the currency that showed will still Bitcoin or will it be converted to Fiat?
It's fine if a platform claims to be "first" or "greatest". When players have made a deposit, the currency that showed will still Bitcoin or will it be converted to Fiat?
February 24, 2021, 09:35:04 PM
wow this was the first Lightning network bitcoin betting site , i have been looking for this kind of site because i have some funds in my LN and now i guess i can use them after a year.
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so meaning what you find is not yet starting ? so the tagline is indeed correct as they are the first as they are already operating not like the one that you mentioned.the one that i linked above is already up and running because i check it already but i mean is the date when this casino first operated ( ex. 2019 , 2020 .. ) but upon writing this i remember a site that is called whois so i pasted the site lightningspin.com on that i found these following values :
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Domain Name: LIGHTNINGSPIN.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2276666502_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domainnameshop.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domainnameshop.com
Updated Date: 2020-05-14T12:17:19Z
Creation Date: 2018-06-18T22:55:32Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2021-06-18T22:55:32Z
Registrar: Domeneshop AS dba domainnameshop.com
Registrar IANA ID: 1001
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +47.22943333
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: CORTNEY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LUKE.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
Registry Domain ID: 2276666502_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domainnameshop.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domainnameshop.com
Updated Date: 2020-05-14T12:17:19Z
Creation Date: 2018-06-18T22:55:32Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2021-06-18T22:55:32Z
Registrar: Domeneshop AS dba domainnameshop.com
Registrar IANA ID: 1001
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +47.22943333
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Name Server: CORTNEY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LUKE.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned
as we can see on that creation date it was 2018 so this means that this lightningspin.com is really the first before betplay.io started operating on the year 2020
February 24, 2021, 04:29:18 PM
I was happy to read your post that you wont be collecting personal data for deposits and withdrawals, but your TOS claims otherwise. If KYC wont be asked during deposits and withdrawals, can you give us examples of when and why you might use it? I am interested because you don't have a gambling license. Did I understand correctly that I have the right to refuse submitting my personal data to you? If so, what happens with my funds and my winnings?
My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.
You do talk for possible KYC?My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.
This doesnt rule out nor exempt other casinos as well where you can be possibly asked with some verification if they do see something towards your gambling activity.
Its quite common that those are included on most terms and conditions.
About gambling license then this hadnt been an issue because even those famous ones upto now did able to succeed or get some marketshare even
they arent really licensed at all.
February 24, 2021, 04:15:08 PM
I agree, their provably fair implementation is probably one of the easiest to cheat I've ever seen.
Spribe are the only ones who could do the cheating, not Betplay. Also, the game is in an iframe, Betplay can't modify the dom.
I should probably state that I am a security researcher and my job is to protect casinos from losing money. I have no professional interest in protecting players. I don't see any way Betplay could lose money by making Aviator available to its customers.
Spribe are the only ones who could do the cheating, not Betplay. Also, the game is in an iframe, Betplay can't modify the dom.
I should probably state that I am a security researcher and my job is to protect casinos from losing money. I have no professional interest in protecting players. I don't see any way Betplay could lose money by making Aviator available to its customers.
February 24, 2021, 03:43:39 PM
I was happy to read your post that you wont be collecting personal data for deposits and withdrawals, but your TOS claims otherwise. If KYC wont be asked during deposits and withdrawals, can you give us examples of when and why you might use it? I am interested because you don't have a gambling license. Did I understand correctly that I have the right to refuse submitting my personal data to you? If so, what happens with my funds and my winnings?
My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.
My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.
February 24, 2021, 02:43:25 PM
I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.
Correct, Aviator is a provided by Spribe so we do not have direct control of it. They do offer a provably fair implementation that takes players' seeds into account. Whether you find their implementation satisfactory or not is something you need to check and decide for yourself of course.
*welcome new challenger gambling site...
accept the Bitcoin Lightning Network! seems very interesting. I am still very unfamiliar with the bitcoin lightning network, but what I heard is that the fee is very much cheaper than the usual Bitcoin network. will try later.
accept the Bitcoin Lightning Network! seems very interesting. I am still very unfamiliar with the bitcoin lightning network, but what I heard is that the fee is very much cheaper than the usual Bitcoin network. will try later.
Thank you! Bitcoin Lightning Network will revolutionise the whole online casino industry. Transaction goes within seconds and fees cost only a fraction, then what it would cost from a normal BTC casino. We are very much looking forward to hear your feedback after trying us out!
I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.
Im presuming that you do talk about this? https://spribe.co/games/aviator
They have other games as well like Mines,Plinko,Hotline and Scratch.
Welcome to the forum Betplay!
Websites name and design are really that attractive plus using LN? This isnt something that you can see everyday.
Just be active on answering people queries and listening up with peoples suggestion and recommendation. Also, dont forget on that marketing side ofthings.
Thank you! We worked hard on the design and saw that LN is missing in casino context. Yes, we are more than happy to listen to your suggestions and recommendation, that's why we are here
I'm happy you like the brand! [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
February 24, 2021, 02:38:46 PM
I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.
Im presuming that you do talk about this? https://spribe.co/games/aviator
They have other games as well like Mines,Plinko,Hotline and Scratch.
Welcome to the forum Betplay!
Websites name and design are really that attractive plus using LN? This isnt something that you can see everyday.
Just be active on answering people queries and listening up with peoples suggestion and recommendation. Also, dont forget on that marketing side ofthings.
February 24, 2021, 02:21:30 PM
I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair
The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases
Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.
February 24, 2021, 12:20:18 PM
*welcome new challenger gambling site...
accept the Bitcoin Lightning Network! seems very interesting. I am still very unfamiliar with the bitcoin lightning network, but what I heard is that the fee is very much cheaper than the usual Bitcoin network. will try later.
accept the Bitcoin Lightning Network! seems very interesting. I am still very unfamiliar with the bitcoin lightning network, but what I heard is that the fee is very much cheaper than the usual Bitcoin network. will try later.
February 24, 2021, 11:17:29 AM
I'm not sure that this is the first casino with Bitcoin Lightning Network, but it's surely quite rare to see such things. I can see you also support USDT, but do you support regular Bitcoin transactions or only the Lightning Network?
I also see from the terms that even though you don't normally ask for ID, the casino is not fully anonymous since an ID can be asked when a person wants to withdraw consent, and some info like full name, phone number or Internet connection info can be asked in some cases.
I also see from the terms that even though you don't normally ask for ID, the casino is not fully anonymous since an ID can be asked when a person wants to withdraw consent, and some info like full name, phone number or Internet connection info can be asked in some cases.
February 24, 2021, 04:47:42 AM
I think you need to clarify these terms a little.
Are you saying the bonus can be awarded after the user has wagered their deposit 30x, but after this wagering the user has to manually claim it?
What is this about having 30 days to complete the bonus after it was claimed as well? At the start of the terms it says it can be withdrawn right away.
EDIT:
Went ahead and made a deposit to test this place out. The bonus terms are incorrect, its actually 30x the bonus amount which needs to be wagered rather than the initial deposit.
It seems like the bonus is applied post wager so you can't use it for extra playtime like most other sites. As i'm not particularly a fan of these post wager bonuses, i just turned over my deposit a couple of times and attempted to withdraw. It hasn't dropped back in my wallet quite yet so i'm assuming they require manual approval (to be fair it has only been an hour).
Quite like the site design though, plus it will be good to see the microgaming/netent slots when they are added (their logos show at the bottom of the site but don't seem to be searchable yet)
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Betplay’s Welcome Bonus
200% Bonus on your first deposit!
Deposit Bitcoin regular or with our first industry leading Bitcoin lightning solution and receive 200% of you deposit to your balance. The bonus is awarded when the turnover requirements are fulfilled. You can withdraw the bonus right away when it has been awarded, no strings attached!
· The welcome bonus can only be activated once when making your first deposit.
· The welcome deposit bonus offer is only available to those who have made their first deposit up to a maximum of up to 50,000 u₿.
· To receive the maximum bonus of up to 50,000 u₿, you must wager an amount equal of 30 times the value of your first initial deposit. The player will then have 7 days to claim the bonus and after that 30 days to complete. If the player fails to do so, the bonus will be forfeited.
Max bet to be able to 100% wager your bonus is set at 1,000 u₿.
200% Bonus on your first deposit!
Deposit Bitcoin regular or with our first industry leading Bitcoin lightning solution and receive 200% of you deposit to your balance. The bonus is awarded when the turnover requirements are fulfilled. You can withdraw the bonus right away when it has been awarded, no strings attached!
· The welcome bonus can only be activated once when making your first deposit.
· The welcome deposit bonus offer is only available to those who have made their first deposit up to a maximum of up to 50,000 u₿.
· To receive the maximum bonus of up to 50,000 u₿, you must wager an amount equal of 30 times the value of your first initial deposit. The player will then have 7 days to claim the bonus and after that 30 days to complete. If the player fails to do so, the bonus will be forfeited.
Max bet to be able to 100% wager your bonus is set at 1,000 u₿.
Are you saying the bonus can be awarded after the user has wagered their deposit 30x, but after this wagering the user has to manually claim it?
What is this about having 30 days to complete the bonus after it was claimed as well? At the start of the terms it says it can be withdrawn right away.
EDIT:
Went ahead and made a deposit to test this place out. The bonus terms are incorrect, its actually 30x the bonus amount which needs to be wagered rather than the initial deposit.
It seems like the bonus is applied post wager so you can't use it for extra playtime like most other sites. As i'm not particularly a fan of these post wager bonuses, i just turned over my deposit a couple of times and attempted to withdraw. It hasn't dropped back in my wallet quite yet so i'm assuming they require manual approval (to be fair it has only been an hour).
Quite like the site design though, plus it will be good to see the microgaming/netent slots when they are added (their logos show at the bottom of the site but don't seem to be searchable yet)
February 24, 2021, 02:03:34 AM
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wow this was the first Lightning network bitcoin betting site , i have been looking for this kind of site because i have some funds in my LN and now i guess i can use them after a year.i got curious if your tagline is true and if its really the first casino that supports lightning network so ive done some googling and found out that thier are other casino s that also have a simillar network i only gathered one name so far and that is lightningspin.com . i was searching for thier start date but i cant find any info in regards to that but that doesnt really matter in the end i think ? but what matters is that there are casinos that are promoting this lightning network and we still need more of them because they are still a few
so meaning what you find is not yet starting ? so the tagline is indeed correct as they are the first as they are already operating not like the one that you mentioned. February 23, 2021, 11:53:42 PM
i got curious if your tagline is true and if its really the first casino that supports lightning network so ive done some googling and found out that thier are other casino s that also have a simillar network i only gathered one name so far and that is lightningspin.com . i was searching for thier start date but i cant find any info in regards to that but that doesnt really matter in the end i think ? but what matters is that there are casinos that are promoting this lightning network and we still need more of them because they are still a few
February 23, 2021, 08:41:06 PM
Aviator: landing in Gambling, finally ... after a previous stop on another forum board ...
-/ The Bonus & Offers is only USDT deposit...?
The other Betplay’s Welcome Bonus 30x, 30 days, 200% bonus, it is very well explained.
So, bet play./-
...welcome!!
... -/ The Bonus & Offers is only USDT deposit...?
The other Betplay’s Welcome Bonus 30x, 30 days, 200% bonus, it is very well explained.
So, bet play./-
...welcome!!
We offer a 100% reload bonus on your second deposit as well! And the currencies we support for our bonuses and gameplay at the moment are USDT and uBTC, but more are coming very soon!
February 23, 2021, 07:19:28 PM
Aviator: landing in Gambling, finally ... after a previous stop on another forum board ...
-/ The Bonus & Offers is only USDT deposit...?
The other Betplay’s Welcome Bonus 30x, 30 days, 200% bonus, it is very well explained.
So, bet play./-
...welcome!!
... -/ The Bonus & Offers is only USDT deposit...?
The other Betplay’s Welcome Bonus 30x, 30 days, 200% bonus, it is very well explained.
So, bet play./-
...welcome!!
February 23, 2021, 06:33:09 PM
Welcome to the forum,
It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.
It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.
Thank you for your feedback! We do offer our games in Demo mode, if you want to try them out without a deposit.
Thanks for your quick response,
If I am already on the platform, I am already testing the games in demo mode, it should be noted that the Eye of Gold game is great.
As it is a nascent casino, have you thought about running a campaign with social networks? and manage a signature campaign with a forum manager? If you look, many casinos have achieved a great margin of success under that advertising parameter.
We have indeed, we would love to run an exclusive campaign here on this forum as well later on. If you have any thoughts on that, please let me know.
This is nice since everyone is looking for casinos using lightning network, good that I found one. It will be great if you push marketing here to attract more users with your services. I hope more casinos will follow LN adoption its really an asap these days because of skyrocketing fees, congrats on putting LN in your platform thats huge potential.
Thank you for your kind words and I hope you will enjoy Betplay.io!
We will try to be as active as possible with updates and news. Excellent initiative op. I am a fan of LN myself even though its adoption rate is significantly low currently, but it's good to see you guys taking a risk here.
I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.
I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.
I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.
I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.
I do agree adding more items in FAQ. Though you are using LN, still it is good to know simple info like min deposit/withdrawal.
And if you are using bitcoin-on-chain, what is min depo/withdrawal? Those info sometimes are important to players especially small time players.
On the other note, when I check your aviator game, there are about 117 bets already. That's a very good start as you are just new here.
Seems that you already promoted it before you introduced it here in the forum.
But it says, there are 2 online, how come there are more than 100 bets placed?
We have been live for about 3 weeks before joining this forum. We have had friends and colleagues trying out our casino to give us feedback as well.
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