Topic: Beyond the Void's ICO - page 3. (Read 16488 times)

Anyone knows the ico price is?

On Poloniex. WTF!!
Nice for the holders I hope.

Are you buying or selling?  I might be able to trade.

I turned my Protonexium in for Nexium several days ago and have still not received the Nexium.  How long should it take?

DEX?

proto is counterparty asset so you can use decentralized exchange that is build inside counterparty wallet.


But i suggest you to exchange them on time for Nexium. Since soon will be worthless.  

Where can I trade protonexium?

Welcome to OpenLedger DEX:

With the crowd sale closed, you are now able to deposit and withdraw the Nexium token as well as trade it on the OpenLedger markets. Below mentioned a few suggestions:

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPEN.NXC_OPEN.BTC

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPEN.NXC_BTS

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPEN.NXC_OBITS

https://bitshares.openledger.info/#/market/OPEN.NXC_OPEN.ETH

We accept bulk orders also

Yours sincerely

Ronny Boesing
CEO
OpenLedger ApS
E-mail: [email protected]

No, from what I understand is that those Protonexium that remain will still be exchangeable into Nexium.  So not all remaining Nexium will be burned after the deadline.  The only change is that nobody can get new ranks after the deadline.  So holding protonexium after the deadline won't have the benefit of getting ranked.

I believe that many who bought Protonexium, including myself, will see a benefit to only exchange the necessary Protonexiums into Nexium to get ranked, and keep the remainder in Protonexium.  Protonexium price will most likely hold or increase as they have become rare while the Nexium price, in a short to medium term, will decrease as many people will sell them after having earned their ranking.

Thanks for the clarification.  I can't wait to see in what way you guys will be using smart contract.

My concerns are more long term and related to security of the game assets I purchase. With few exceptions (Litecoin/Ripple) altcoins have generally risen and fallen to nothingness.  Price falling means lower hashrate, therefore less security.  Also I understand that ETH is going to move to proof of stake sometimes in the future.  On the other hand ETC will remain with proof of work.  Too much uncertainty makes me want to only consider holding assets short or medium term.  Well, time will tell.  And maybe it won't be too difficult to switch platforms if new conditions requires it.

No you need to burn all NExium that was not changed from Protonexium.  I am 100% sure lots of protonexium will stayed unexchanged. Who will then keep those Nexium? Me?

Half of airdrop was sent to burned address. So noone can ever exchange that protonexium. But someone will hold on wallet that Nexium that is reserved for already burned Protonexium?


Just make deadline till when proto can be exchanged for Nexium, after that distribute bonuses and after that is done, burn all Nexium that dont belong to noone.


PS: it seems it is already decided this way. I did not read all replies.  It is only logical way.

Hello !

Like some of you noticed, we can't burn the Nexiums until we distribute the backer ranks, or at least calculate them, and I'll change it in the timeline this morning.
That's why we are setting up a deadline to convert the PROTONEXIUM into Nexiums. We will burn the Nexiums at the exchange deadline.

The PROTONEXIUM swap will still be possible after the deadline, but it won't grant backer ranks anymore. We know exactly how many PROTONEXIUM were sold, so we will keep apart this quantity exactly in Nexium (and not burn it) even after the deadline.

We chose Ethereum for the great possibilities given by the smart contracts, for the transaction speed as well.

3) "moving to Ethereum" I meant from the investors' side as most or pretty much everyone in the crypto space has been dealing with bitcoin, especially those involved in game assets on the counterpary.  Although I do believe that choosing an altcoin blockchain on which to base the game must have been a decision with good reasons (which I don't know).  I personally don't mind to get involved in any of the altcoins, but I would feel uncomfortable holding a lot of assets in one of them, especially ETH which has a reputation of constant forkings.  I personally would favor holding game assets on a blockchain wich security has been proven through history.
Also too bad that the book of orbs can't be used with Beyond the Void.

1) I agree with burn as you go. I'm not sure why it can't be this way. Keeps things moving and saves endless notifications to those that have yet to check back on their initial investment despite ICO rules. I don't understand why people take part and forget.

2) It only has value up until the deadline for the exchange. After that ranks will be designated as cards and these can be traded and sold.

3) Why get involved in a project based on Ethereum in the first place if there is a resistance to "moving" to Ethereum? From where are they actually moving? Beyond the Void has always been an Ethereum project!

Ah I see what you mean now thanks for clarifying

Not sure what the rush is to convert Protonexium to Nexium.  I don't think Protonexium should have any expiration date.  You can burn Nexium minus the remaining Protonexium so that enough Nexium is left for future redemption.  In other words, you burn as you go.  Besides, I doubt that everyone holding Protonexium will exchage them into Nexium by the due date.  Then what do you do?  Burn all the Nexium anyway?

At the moment I don't believe Nexium has any value as there is nothing to buy yet.  On the other hand Protonexium provides you with a rank.  Once you exchange into Nexium, you can sell your Nexium, but you cannot sell your rank as the rank is dependent on a specific address which the seller knows the private key.  If ranks could be transfered from one address to another, then selling ranks would work.  However, you can still not build new ranks because only coins originating from the ICO (Protonexium) can provide you with a new rank.

Also, I think it would be cool if people could keep their Protonexium for future value or just as a relic.  Especially those that are on the bitcoin blockchain.  Not everyone wants to move to Ethereum.

You are not missing anything, I don't know how but my different calculations got mixed up. I fixed it, thank you for noticing so fast 

What is a reason for this?  Why is not deadline to convert Protonexium to Nexium till Sunday as was fist announced?

Or better question, how you plan to burn unsold Nexium on 18th December if you plan to exchange Protonexium for Nexium till end of December.  Logic tells me you cant. And you need to first exchange all Protonexium and then calculate bonuses and then burn all extra Nexium.  But I would love to hear your solution.

I'm confused...If max bought 470000 and received bonus of 10% doesn't he have 110000 left over and not 118000?

Also - Does he not qualify for moon admin (100000NxC) next rather than Army General?

After 8% bonus from Moon Admin he'd have 18800 left for Death star commander (16000).

After bonus then some left over for a couple of ship pilots.

What am I missing?

Hello,


To clear things up:


- PROTONEXIUM exist only to allow people to back the project using Bitcrystals. All the PROTONEXIUM are meant to be exchanged for Nexiums, which are the currency we created within the Ethereum Blockchain.

- Your backer rank is determined by the amount of Nexium you bought during our ICO. If you bought PROTONEXIUM, you will have to change them into Nexium to get your rank.

- You can’t be ranked if you buy Nexiums now from the market. Those are backer ranks, meant to reward the people who supported Beyond the Void by buying Nexium from the ICO.

- We can’t possibly determine the backer ranks until everybody changed their PROTONEXIUM against Nexiums, and that’s why we are pushing back the Nexium bonus & asset distribution until January.

- We see that some people are looking to buy PROTONEXIUM now from other backers. We understand that now that the ICO is finished, some people want to increase their backer rank before it is determined by changing more PROTONEXIUM to Nexium on their backing address. We are not interfering  in this, but we would like to remind everybody that this is what delays the Nexium bonus & assets distribution.

- The deadline to convert PROTONEXIUM to Nexium was set to the end of December. If you think you can’t convert them until then, you can always contact us by e-mail.

- The Nexium symbol is NxC.

Here is the tool to convert PROTONEXIUM to Nexium:
https://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/protonexium-swap/

EDIT: We just updated the backer rank page to give you the detailed calculation: https://beyond-the-void.net/index.php/backer-ranks/

This is wrong.

People were able to participate in the ICO using BCY but because BCY does not run on ETH blockchain an intermediary token was offered that could be exchanged 1:1 after the ICO finished. That was ProtoNexium. ProtoNexium is NOT the in game currency.

It is the amount of Nexium that is sent to your wallet that assigns your ranking.

If I buy 100000 NXC with ETH I will be ranked Moon Admin
If I buy 100000 Proto with BCY i will be ranked nothing until I convert them to NXC

You have to convert them to receive your NXC and thus your ranking, bonuses, assets etc.

People are looking to buy Proto because it was cheaper that way.

If Beyond the Void could clear it up that would be great as there seems to be quite a bit of confusion.

Looking fwd to receiving my sweet sweet assets and bonus

EDIT: I understand why people want ProtoNexium now. Because the only way you'll get a rank now that the ICO has finished is by converting Protonexium to Nexium.