Not a lot hits... just misses.
Tsk tsk tsk. Poor Josh I wonder what happened? Pretty low average per day shipping isn't it? Really? My word.
Topic: BFL is Assembling 400 (not 300) Units a Day! (Read 9635 times)
quote BFL forum
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/off-topic/4145-backlog-cleared-september-nuh-uh-warning-maths-12.html#post52643
"Updated Data!
Current Rate:
2nd July 2013 till 16th August 2013
Jalapenos: 19th September 2012 to 5th December 2012 (+17 days shipped on last weeks figures)
Little Singles: 24th June 2012 to 10th September 2012 (+79 days shipped on last weeks figures)
Singles: 23rd June 2012 to 30th June 2012 (+4 day shipped on last weeks figures)
Minirigs: 23rd June 2012 to 21st July 2012 (Batch 1: +28 days on last weeks figures, Batch 2: +1 day on last weeks figures)
That means the ratio is (R=DO/DP):
Jalapenos:
77 days to 46 days production (1.67 (+0.09 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Little Singles:
136 days to 45 days production (3.02 (+1.52 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Single:
7 days to 45 days production (0.15 (+0.07 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Minirigs:
Batch 1: 55 day to 45 days production (1.22 (+0.51 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Batch 2: 1 day to 11 days production (0.09 (-0.16 on last weeks figures) order days to 1 day production)
As such the estimated shipping date of an order placed today would be (S=(B/7)/R):
Jalapenos: 22 Weeks (~18th January 2014)
Little Singles: 16 Weeks (~7th December 2013)
Singles: 393 Weeks (~27th February 2021)
Minirigs: 46 Weeks (~5th July 2014)
Josh's 'Backlog Cleared By September' Rate:
Jalapenos:
9th August 2013: 15th December 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 15th January 2013 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 15th February 2013
30th August 2013: 18th March 2013
6th September 2013: 18th April 2013
13th September 2013: 19th May 2013
20th September 2013: 19th June 2013
27th September 2013: 20th July 2013
Little Singles:
9th August 2013: 6th September 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 21st October 2012 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 5th December 2012
30th August 2013: 19th January 2013
6th September 2013: 5th March 2013
13th September 2013: 19th April 2013
20th September 2013: 3rd June 2013
27th September 2013: 18th July 2013
Singles:
9th August 2013: 14th August 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 1st October 2012 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 18th November 2012
30th August 2013: 5th January 2013
6th September 2013: 22nd February 2013
13th September 2013: 11th April 2013
20th September 2013: 29th May 2013
27th September 2013: 16th July 2013
Minirigs:
9th August 2013: 10th August 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 27th September 2012 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 14th November 2012
30th August 2013: 1st January 2013
6th September 2013: 18th February 2013
13th September 2013: 7th April 2013
20th September 2013: 25th May 2013
27th September 2013: 12th July 2013"
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/off-topic/4145-backlog-cleared-september-nuh-uh-warning-maths-12.html#post52643
"Updated Data!
Current Rate:
2nd July 2013 till 16th August 2013
Jalapenos: 19th September 2012 to 5th December 2012 (+17 days shipped on last weeks figures)
Little Singles: 24th June 2012 to 10th September 2012 (+79 days shipped on last weeks figures)
Singles: 23rd June 2012 to 30th June 2012 (+4 day shipped on last weeks figures)
Minirigs: 23rd June 2012 to 21st July 2012 (Batch 1: +28 days on last weeks figures, Batch 2: +1 day on last weeks figures)
That means the ratio is (R=DO/DP):
Jalapenos:
77 days to 46 days production (1.67 (+0.09 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Little Singles:
136 days to 45 days production (3.02 (+1.52 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Single:
7 days to 45 days production (0.15 (+0.07 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Minirigs:
Batch 1: 55 day to 45 days production (1.22 (+0.51 on last weeks figures) order days per 1 day production)
Batch 2: 1 day to 11 days production (0.09 (-0.16 on last weeks figures) order days to 1 day production)
As such the estimated shipping date of an order placed today would be (S=(B/7)/R):
Jalapenos: 22 Weeks (~18th January 2014)
Little Singles: 16 Weeks (~7th December 2013)
Singles: 393 Weeks (~27th February 2021)
Minirigs: 46 Weeks (~5th July 2014)
Josh's 'Backlog Cleared By September' Rate:
Jalapenos:
9th August 2013: 15th December 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 15th January 2013 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 15th February 2013
30th August 2013: 18th March 2013
6th September 2013: 18th April 2013
13th September 2013: 19th May 2013
20th September 2013: 19th June 2013
27th September 2013: 20th July 2013
Little Singles:
9th August 2013: 6th September 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 21st October 2012 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 5th December 2012
30th August 2013: 19th January 2013
6th September 2013: 5th March 2013
13th September 2013: 19th April 2013
20th September 2013: 3rd June 2013
27th September 2013: 18th July 2013
Singles:
9th August 2013: 14th August 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 1st October 2012 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 18th November 2012
30th August 2013: 5th January 2013
6th September 2013: 22nd February 2013
13th September 2013: 11th April 2013
20th September 2013: 29th May 2013
27th September 2013: 16th July 2013
Minirigs:
9th August 2013: 10th August 2012 - Missed
16th August 2013: 27th September 2012 - Missed
23rd August 2013: 14th November 2012
30th August 2013: 1st January 2013
6th September 2013: 18th February 2013
13th September 2013: 7th April 2013
20th September 2013: 25th May 2013
27th September 2013: 12th July 2013"
quote BFL forum
"Hmmm. 5 days' worth of jalapeno orders (partially) shipped in a 7-day period.
If we extrapolate that production rate for the next six months - multiply by 5, carry the 3 - that means the order backlog will be eliminated by approximately...
NEVER"
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/277-friday-august-9-2013-shipping-update.html#comment6995
"Hmmm. 5 days' worth of jalapeno orders (partially) shipped in a 7-day period.
If we extrapolate that production rate for the next six months - multiply by 5, carry the 3 - that means the order backlog will be eliminated by approximately...
NEVER"
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/277-friday-august-9-2013-shipping-update.html#comment6995
quote BFL forum
"This equates to almost no movement, let me explain:
Jalapenos: Nov 19, 2012 pay date
the day before it was Nov 18th so one day of production.
Little Singles: August 27-29, 2012 pay date
This appears like a lot but no one orders Little Singles its the least ordered SKU so to ship 10 days you have to get about 15 units out the door.
Singles: June 27, 2012 pay date (the last June 26 order of 12 units shipped) there are a lot of June 27 orders and I think about 1/2 are shipped.
Still working on the 4th day of production, been on June23rd to June27th for over 80 days
MiniRigs: No MiniRigs shipped today.
DUH
So keep thanking Jody, Thank her again at Christmas, Twice on New Years and Again on Presidents Day.
While its not her fault, she has no parts to build your orders and/or she has no people to build your orders.
End of September? Ha! September 2014 Maybe."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/277-friday-august-9-2013-shipping-update-page3.html#comment7020
"This equates to almost no movement, let me explain:
Jalapenos: Nov 19, 2012 pay date
the day before it was Nov 18th so one day of production.
Little Singles: August 27-29, 2012 pay date
This appears like a lot but no one orders Little Singles its the least ordered SKU so to ship 10 days you have to get about 15 units out the door.
Singles: June 27, 2012 pay date (the last June 26 order of 12 units shipped) there are a lot of June 27 orders and I think about 1/2 are shipped.
Still working on the 4th day of production, been on June23rd to June27th for over 80 days
MiniRigs: No MiniRigs shipped today.
DUH
So keep thanking Jody, Thank her again at Christmas, Twice on New Years and Again on Presidents Day.
While its not her fault, she has no parts to build your orders and/or she has no people to build your orders.
End of September? Ha! September 2014 Maybe."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/277-friday-august-9-2013-shipping-update-page3.html#comment7020
May, June, July, August ...
quote BFL josh 06-15-2013, 09:46 AM
"As a thank you to our customers for being patient with us as we move towards fulfilling our shipping we are instituting a chip credit program for all pre-orders..."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/announcements/3272-customer-appreciation-chip-credit-program.html
Wasn't a minirig around 5300BTC when orders opened?!? NOT SHIPPED YET?!? 
It's conceivable that you could've ordered a minirig(1.5Th/s) on June 23 2012 for 5000+BTC and still have NOTHING to show for it...not even 1/3 of your order. Ouch.
It's conceivable that you could've ordered a minirig(1.5Th/s) on June 23 2012 for 5000+BTC and still have NOTHING to show for it...not even 1/3 of your order. Ouch.
Worst purchase ever. Had you simply kept the bitcoins you would have over half a million dollars instead of the crushed hope of having a mining device someday.
quote
"BFL should really own up to their misjudgements in this case. That is really what this is about. BFL misjudged their delivery dates. Not owning up to it makes it seem like it was a lie, or a deception in order to get pre-order money. The reason for the anger is not so much the delivery date we now have, but the lack of truth when we made our decisions to invest in this product. The defensiveness and lack of transparency of the BFL staff has also compounded the issue. You ask us to be patient and trust you, but give us no evidence that anything is really changing, that shipments have gone up, or that you really have done anything to ship closer to your recently purposed shipping dates. This after failing to meet dates in the past...do you really wonder why there is a trust issue?
I hate to do it but I think canceling is starting to become a reality for me. I was dead set against it because the numbers looked like a good investment...but well..they just get worse and worse.
Give us some transparency so we can make informed choices. Give us a by order deliver date that you can actually make with current output, and then give us a pie in the sky date if output ramps the way you hope it will. Oh and start treating your customers like they are always right...even if you think they are loons.
Treat us right, we will treat you right..not that hard. Right now...just seems like lies."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/267-saturday-miscellaneous-answers-page5.html#comment6679
"BFL should really own up to their misjudgements in this case. That is really what this is about. BFL misjudged their delivery dates. Not owning up to it makes it seem like it was a lie, or a deception in order to get pre-order money. The reason for the anger is not so much the delivery date we now have, but the lack of truth when we made our decisions to invest in this product. The defensiveness and lack of transparency of the BFL staff has also compounded the issue. You ask us to be patient and trust you, but give us no evidence that anything is really changing, that shipments have gone up, or that you really have done anything to ship closer to your recently purposed shipping dates. This after failing to meet dates in the past...do you really wonder why there is a trust issue?
I hate to do it but I think canceling is starting to become a reality for me. I was dead set against it because the numbers looked like a good investment...but well..they just get worse and worse.
Give us some transparency so we can make informed choices. Give us a by order deliver date that you can actually make with current output, and then give us a pie in the sky date if output ramps the way you hope it will. Oh and start treating your customers like they are always right...even if you think they are loons.
Treat us right, we will treat you right..not that hard. Right now...just seems like lies."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/267-saturday-miscellaneous-answers-page5.html#comment6679
I see ~120 priority boxes taped up and sitting on a dock. BFL could've easily taken a pic every single day since July 4, 2012, Full Production Day, depicting 100-400 boxes on the dock. Do they not realize how far showing such images would have carried them? They wouldn't even need to pay out one satoshi for advertising to garner more sales if they did such unless, of course, this was their biggest day ever in shipping, and Jody snapped that pic prior to having to change her underwear.
Give or take 5, there are 134 boxes in this picture.
I see what you did there! You added another box on each stack when are backs were turned. I counted 8, but now there's 9. Well played!
I guess it's possible that 300 were shipped that day: ~134 via USPS; 134 to Joe's Data Center; The rest to undisclosed locations control by Josh and Sonny.
I see ~120 priority boxes taped up and sitting on a dock. BFL could've easily taken a pic every single day since July 4, 2012, Full Production Day, depicting 100-400 boxes on the dock. Do they not realize how far showing such images would have carried them? They wouldn't even need to pay out one satoshi for advertising to garner more sales if they did such unless, of course, this was their biggest day ever in shipping, and Jody snapped that pic prior to having to change her underwear.
Give or take 5, there are 134 boxes in this picture.
Wasn't a minirig around 5300BTC when orders opened?!? NOT SHIPPED YET?!?
It's conceivable that you could've ordered a minirig(1.5Th/s) on June 23 2012 for 5000+BTC and still have NOTHING to show for it...not even 1/3 of your order. Ouch.
It's conceivable that you could've ordered a minirig(1.5Th/s) on June 23 2012 for 5000+BTC and still have NOTHING to show for it...not even 1/3 of your order. Ouch.
quote BFL_Jody
No, we will not post quantity.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/4084-how-many-items-being-shipped-per-day-actual-quantity-2.html#post50423
No, we will not post quantity.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/4084-how-many-items-being-shipped-per-day-actual-quantity-2.html#post50423
And the faithful sheep/shills (sheels?) chime in
Quote from: Kill_Ari (scumbag forums)
short and to the point! I like it. Thanks Jody
quote BFL_Jody
No, we will not post quantity.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/4084-how-many-items-being-shipped-per-day-actual-quantity-2.html#post50423
how-many-items-being-shipped-per-day-actual-quantity
Jalapenos: none shipped today
Little Singles: we shipped through July 23, 2012
Singles: All shipped through June 26, 2012 and into June 27, 2012
MiniRigs: Biggest shipment so far. Still from June 23 orders
No, we will not post quantity.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/4084-how-many-items-being-shipped-per-day-actual-quantity-2.html#post50423
how-many-items-being-shipped-per-day-actual-quantity
Jalapenos: none shipped today
Little Singles: we shipped through July 23, 2012
Singles: All shipped through June 26, 2012 and into June 27, 2012
MiniRigs: Biggest shipment so far. Still from June 23 orders
What are you talking about?
If you put on your BFL spectacles, you will clearly see 10,000 boxes. I don't think they know how to count. (9x3x5=135 minus any negative space = ~120)
Three people can box 120 boxes in about 3 or 4 hours. Especially if it is the same process over and over again.
How many people work at BFL in the shipping department?
If you put on your BFL spectacles, you will clearly see 10,000 boxes. I don't think they know how to count. (9x3x5=135 minus any negative space = ~120)
Three people can box 120 boxes in about 3 or 4 hours. Especially if it is the same process over and over again.
How many people work at BFL in the shipping department?
Now that BFL has shown positively that we is in Full Production, there will NOT be any more refunds unless you get it from PayPal, your CC, reverse from your bank, or via Bitcoin, but good luck with that one. Obviously, one can get a refund provided they're willing to jump through hoops to get it. Why don't we just honor refunds directly, you ask? Because anybody kind enough to help fund our now wonderful operation, affording the staff a comfortable livelihood, are monumental assholes. Period!
Now, if you excuse me, it's almost noon, and I'm started to hear Josh whining, wanting his fooler. If he keeps this up, he'll need braces to correct his developing buck teeth.
What are you talking about?
If you put on your BFL spectacles, you will clearly see 10,000 boxes. I don't think they know how to count. (9x3x5=135 minus any negative space = ~120)
Three people can box 120 boxes in about 3 or 4 hours. Especially if it is the same process over and over again.
How many people work at BFL in the shipping department?
If you put on your BFL spectacles, you will clearly see 10,000 boxes. I don't think they know how to count. (9x3x5=135 minus any negative space = ~120)
Three people can box 120 boxes in about 3 or 4 hours. Especially if it is the same process over and over again.
How many people work at BFL in the shipping department?
I see ~120 priority boxes taped up and sitting on a dock. BFL could've easily taken a pic every single day since July 4, 2012, Full Production Day, depicting 100-400 boxes on the dock. Do they not realize how far showing such images would have carried them? They wouldn't even need to pay out one satoshi for advertising to garner more sales if they did such unless, of course, this was their biggest day ever in shipping, and Jody snapped that pic prior to having to change her underwear.
Just stumbled across this image 
I thought something had been edited out in the original picture posted... he just seemed to happy to be standing next to Josh.
http://s23.postimg.org/vh0gr13d7/haha.png
(Rated R!)
I thought something had been edited out in the original picture posted... he just seemed to happy to be standing next to Josh.http://s23.postimg.org/vh0gr13d7/haha.png
(Rated R!)
Leawood KS Police already have a file opened.
Contact this person who is heading up the investigation:
[email protected]
Det. John Freeman (913) 642-5555 X209
Contact this person who is heading up the investigation:
[email protected]
Det. John Freeman (913) 642-5555 X209
I heard Det. John Freeman is mining on BTCGuild these days...
I wonder if Josh will be smiling as much on the
FBI's Most Wanted posters
FBI's Most Wanted posters 
I believe Josh was in NY for the conference. I wonder how he felt when BFL once again wasn't mention on any of the official flyers.
I must admit I feel sorry for him having to walk around alone knowing the people nearby are talking about him.
Rumor has it that one guy did have an in depth conversation with Josh until, that is, he realized Josh wasn't the new janitor.
I must admit I feel sorry for him having to walk around alone knowing the people nearby are talking about him.
Rumor has it that one guy did have an in depth conversation with Josh until, that is, he realized Josh wasn't the new janitor.
yep he was, you should check his cool smiling face here with another ASIC preorder business manufactuer from Sweden.) (KNC)
Oh no
Well,there goes KnC down the drain.They'll delay just like BFL & Avalon now Thanks Josh for corrupting another one
We need better security to keep other ASIC manufacturers away from him
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