Topic: BFL is Assembling 400 (not 300) Units a Day! - page 4. (Read 9612 times)

[Speculation and humor]

Date: July 24th, 2013

Rep: Tell me about the order we place "two weeks"® ago?
Chinese Supplier: Well, my records show nothing at two weeks ago...do you mean the shipment of parts you sent us on the 23rd of June?
Rep: Yes, that was it, two weeks® ago just like I mentioned.
Chinese Supplier: Well, it looks like we haven't yet finished tooling for your assembling line. It will be ready in two weeks, perhaps?
Rep: WTF, Two weeks®?! Is that really 14 days or 10 business days?
Chinese Supplier: Well, we don't know that yet.
Rep:
Rep: You don't understand, we have already delayed beyond what is considered a crime. We have the Unethical Patrol for Your Occasional Uncertainty Resolution Society calling our front desk! Ready to file against us. (U.P.-Y.O.U.R.S.)
Chinese Supplier: It may be up to 60 days, I am sorry, there is nothing more we can offer you.

Rep:

Rep on Forum: We are still waiting on your ordered Power Supplies. We know it has been a challenging "two weeks"® but it may be yet another "two weeks" before we have these in.

"Troll" on Forum: Hey! Hold up a damn minute. You said this "two weeks®" ago! Why don't you tell us the truth?!

Rep on Forum: STFUP, you shitty little troll. How dare you? If it weren't for our refund policy I would probably give you back your BTC.

"Troll" on Forum: WTF, Refund my ass! Thats exactly what I want!

Rep on Forum: FU, you'll get your shipment in "two weeks®" when everything is good and ready.

"Shill" on Forum: I would have done worse, great job Rep! You kept your cool in the face of all this BS. You guys are doing a spectacular job, Keep it up!

"Customer(s)" on Forum: WTH, he was right about everything!

"Slock" (hes special) on Forum: STFU you lowlifes, get a fucking clue!

"Shills" on Forum: What he said, you guys are just so fucking entitled. You think you get something when you pay for it....just stupid.

It's a massively cruel reality.

Those at the end and middle of the queue get massively screwed.

Those at the beginning (as long as they probably get it by september) will probably only just get by without much profit for the next year.

Just visited BFL's lovely forum again and realized something: Josh has posted more in the land of monumental assholes than he had addressing the very people that have provided him and Sonny et al. a very comfortable living on the very forum he built and maintains.

quote:

"Yep, it's time for a refund... this delay is intentional
If there was a thread of honesty they would step up and reveal why the output is way lower than they projected (please don't insult our intelligence with you can't get PSUs)."

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/256-friday-july-26-2013-shipping-update-page3.html#comments

Update: Since July 4, 2013, 24 assembling days have passed, thus 9,600 Bitcoin miners build by BF Labs Inc. is, or will soon be, in the wild.

According to Josh's own figures, and they must be correct because he's the COO of Butterfly Labs, only ~60 more days remain before all backordered pre-orders are in the hands of monumental assholes, all competing with one another to see who'll get an ROI first.

Josh has the solution to host them miners:

Not a very simple question, for it involves numbers, but...: How many data centers do you have, Josh?

I'm glad LabRat made it clear with the above. I understand fully now.


This was not one of them 5-10 minute tours. This took time and valuable resources. resources better spent by allowing customers to come by if they wish to pick up their unit from BFL in which they were so kind in forwarding funds to help them develop their product line.

During the same timeframe, BFL was snapping pics for an eBay listing of a unit that was heading to a data center, but once sold it would be returned to the BFL's facility to be picked up by the lucky eBayer who purchased it.


At one time, Josh stated that he was in the process of procuring more floor space at his yet to be named data center.

Joe has the whole top floor of the Oak Tower. I'm sure he'll have no problem obtaining another floor.

Rumor has it that the backup plan is to host all miners at the following address: 1550 Oxen Lane NE, Burlington, KS, where enough power is not an issue.

Simple question time: Josh, how many legs does each work bence have in BFL's assembling room?

quote:

"“Now on to shipping. In the ~8 hours I was there I saw 2 people box up and ship out 2 large shipments with well over 100 orders… Notice orders, not Jalapenos, some of those orders had up to 4 Jally’s each in them, and one of the 2 people who were working in the shipping dept was only on her second day working with BFL. Shipping by no means will be a bottleneck, they can box up thousands of orders a day with 6-10 people working a good day I would assume. I saw how MiniRigs are going to be boxed up. They have a machine which basically makes a hard foam pillow of which 4 will be placed surrounding a MR. This foam appeared to be able to form fit once put in place and it hardens. Once everything is boxed up and they have a full rack they can have USPS come pick up a load of boxes and continue packaging more.” – “Sonny and Josh both confirmed that within ~7 days after giving the order to go full steam ahead to the assembly plant they can receive thousands of units. So it is just a matter of time before we all have nice presents on our door steps. I see no problems with their entire process.”"

http://www.coindesk.com/butterfly-labs-ship-first-bitforce-sc-60-bitcoin-miner/


quote:
"Even then, a traditional datacenter rack can only handle 20,000 watts of power at a time. According to the Butterfly Labs official FAQ, a Mini Rig consumes 2,500 to 2,700 watts of power at any given time. Right now, that datacenter rack comprising of today’s average servers would only be able to handle about six Mini Rigs."

http://www.coindesk.com/inside-butterfly-labs-the-asic-bitcoin-mining-arms-race/

Josh the bfl minister of misinformation. Skilled in providing just the right kind of BS to increase pre-order volume and hold back refund requests. Also very talented at not providing any shred of truth or honesty.

Dude, you'll be white-knighting also if you just concede to the fact, like I have, that 400 units a day shipped for the past 21 days is a major accomplishment given all the shortfalls BFL encountered.

And don't forget to ask simple questions at your end of your post so that Josh can address them as he has so promised, similar to what SftSpike asked on BFL's forum back in January of this year: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/690-13-jan-2013-asic-update-discussion-thread-41.html#post12289


10 pages later Josh never got around to addressing the question, probably because of CES, of which is more than understandable. But that was then, and this is now--full-production-city. Josh has plenty of time on his hand now to address a myriad of simple questions.

To prove what I've stated above is true, I will ask a very, very, very simple question for all to see how Josh replies.

Josh, where is the data center you own located?

quote:

"Jody, would it be possible to give the overall percentage of preorders shipped thus far, broken down by category? Giving us the same pay date shipping for 30 days in a row is very discouraging. Even if that answer is 1% I would be happier to hear that then the same pay date information that we are getting now which is June 23rd every day for a month. It makes me want to punch a baby every time I see that same date over and over.

I spent over 30k which is the price of a new truck and cant even figure out any time frame of when I can reasonable expect delivery. I'm not going to cry if that date is 2 years in the future, but right now, I have nothing. That isn't really fair to your customers who loyally support you day in and day out. Please, can we get some overall percentages? For the love of god and everything that is holy I implore you."

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/255-thursday-july-25-2013-shipping-update-page2.html#comment5812

64 Days on June 23rd orders.

You laugh now, but just wait and see what BFL has in store come Q4/13. We may all had a good laugh at BFL and Josh's expense, but look who's laughin' now--them!

Ain't it amazin' how they slipped that full-production right beneath our eyes? Nobody saw it coming.

Well-played BFL! Well-played!

~Bruno Kučinskas~

PS: For those keeping score at home, the following is the number of units assembled and shipped since July 4, 2013, and yes they did work on a holiday.

July 4, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 5, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 6, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 7, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 8, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 9, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 10, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 11, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 12, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 13, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 14, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 15, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 16, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 17, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 18, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 19, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 20, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 21, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 22, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 23, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 24, 2013  ~  400 Units
July 25, 2013  ~  400 Units  (to be shipped tomorrow morning)

You guys don't know how it feels to be no longer considered a liar by Josh, for if there was anything in this thread that was a lie, he would sure be here to stick it up my ass. I'm glad those days over, although I sometimes miss the banter with that little prick (insert smiley here).

In closing, one simple question: During your first meeting, Josh, with the person everybody here, including yourself, knew as Sonny K., did you happen to recall his last name? Apologies for being a little pest on this, but that simple questions has been asked of you from day one following your first encounter with Sonny K. We all understand how sometimes questions get passed up accidently (busy schedule and all) and pretty sure that that was the case with this simple question not yet being addressed. But now that full production is in full swing, the pressure's probably off, allowing you to supply the simple answer.

I'm sure you know how monumental assholes could be sometimes. Been there, seen that!

I think it was turned on high w/ bass boost, equalizer settings all the way up, and it blew out the speakers.

It's called "reverse psychology",ain't workin is it 

Wow, that's amazing! I can't wait for the hundreds of miners I ordered to arrive. BFL is flying high!

P.S. What are you smoking, and can I have some?

Josh said they are working weekends. Others will be here to confirm that statement.

Dude, you can't count weekends! I'm sure they don't work on Saturday and Sunday.

So since July 24, there have only been 15 BUSINESS days, that's only 6,000 units shipped!

That's a difference of 2,000!

That's the Trouble with Treble, you always need a bass:

Need more bass dude 

Gotta pound it in to their peasized brains