Topic: BFL offers 1000 BTC back up on power claims - page 5. (Read 10305 times)
Why not forget the power issue and bet when BFL will actually ship? Or is that a step too far?
Na, I knew Tom would chicken out and run back into his hole, so it was largely irrelevant as far as Tom goes. I'm offering 1000 BTC on behalf of BFL regardless of what Tom does. I never expected Tom to honor the intent of his bet anyway (Simply because he had no intention of going through with it from the start), so it was largely altruistic on my part to begin with, but only in so far as I don't think I will have to pay up and I know Tom would... but I'm more than willing to escrow the amount until such time as is required.
So as it stands now, if you meet your power guidelines (<66W), you do nothing. If you don't meet your power estimates (>66W), you donate 1000BTC to charity. Is that it? 
Na, I knew Tom would chicken out and run back into his hole, so it was largely irrelevant as far as Tom goes. I'm offering 1000 BTC on behalf of BFL regardless of what Tom does. I never expected Tom to honor the intent of his bet anyway (Simply because he had no intention of going through with it from the start), so it was largely altruistic on my part to begin with, but only in so far as I don't think I will have to pay up and I know Tom would... but I'm more than willing to escrow the amount until such time as is required.
Since Tom is refusing to actually make the bet he himself proposed between us, I am offering up a guarantee of 1000 BTC to charity (I will take suggestions on which charity to donate this to) if BFL does not meet it's power claims within 10% - meaning if BFL's power consumption is more than 66w for a Single SC, we lose the "bet."
Now, I ask if Tom is willing to step up and back the winning side. He is 100% confident that we will not meet our power claims (which is the genesis of the failed bet), and as such I ask that he pony up 1000 BTC to the same charity if we do make our power claims.
So there it is: Tom is confident that we won't make our power claims, I am confident that we will. I am willing to put up 1000 BTC to show my confidence in BFL products. Is Tom confident enough to do the same or is he just blowing hot air?
Now, I ask if Tom is willing to step up and back the winning side. He is 100% confident that we will not meet our power claims (which is the genesis of the failed bet), and as such I ask that he pony up 1000 BTC to the same charity if we do make our power claims.
So there it is: Tom is confident that we won't make our power claims, I am confident that we will. I am willing to put up 1000 BTC to show my confidence in BFL products. Is Tom confident enough to do the same or is he just blowing hot air?
Wait.. wut?
Subject line says: "BFL offers 1000 BTC back up on power claims"
Is BFL backing this bet?
You are posting as Inaba. I thought the bet was between you and Tom, not between BFL and Tom.
Shouldn't you be posting as BFL_Josh?
In fact I would like to nominate my home town, which I had to leave after we had some severe earthquakes that destroyed the city.
http://christchurchappealtrust.org.nz/
This charity was set up by the New Zealand Prime Minister.
Much of the CBD buildings lost there frontages. My home was fine, my parents lost theirs and had to live with me for 3 months. FEEL MY PAIN!
There is a US-NZ tax free way to donate through the US.
http://www.americanfriendsofchristchurch.org/ways-to-give.html
http://christchurchappealtrust.org.nz/
This charity was set up by the New Zealand Prime Minister.
Much of the CBD buildings lost there frontages. My home was fine, my parents lost theirs and had to live with me for 3 months. FEEL MY PAIN!
There is a US-NZ tax free way to donate through the US.
http://www.americanfriendsofchristchurch.org/ways-to-give.html
| Purpose | Donation amount |
| AFOC: Hardship & Relief Reference: 010 | $100.00 USD |
I specified that it was donated on behalf of scary-eyed batman, so if they don't thank you, punch them in the nuts.
Wow mate that is absolutely awesome! Thanks
.Hard to say thank you enough.
I fail to see how either Tom Cablepair or Inaba can really believe that all this school playground behaviour is any good for either of their organizations.
Has anyone noticed how reputable businesses could easily play this ridiculous game of PR one-up-man-ship, and yet by and large don't do it? Because it makes them look bad? Even when they do engage in this sort of thing, they at least have the sense to dress it up in a bogus intellectual property lawsuit.
You two appear like a pair of WWE wrestlers in a pre-match taunting session (to me, anyway)
Though I see your point, it is sad that when people pay sharks so much money, people (like you?) think that suddenly makes something respectable.Has anyone noticed how reputable businesses could easily play this ridiculous game of PR one-up-man-ship, and yet by and large don't do it? Because it makes them look bad? Even when they do engage in this sort of thing, they at least have the sense to dress it up in a bogus intellectual property lawsuit.
You two appear like a pair of WWE wrestlers in a pre-match taunting session (to me, anyway)
I certainly have no respect for such sharks so I cannot see how them doing something can add any respect at all to it ...
You're quite right; these patent trolls fighting each other over IP rights to something that actually belongs to nobody does nothing for their reputations either. I'm talking about the perception of the average person towards these things, not my own.
No idea is original, the laws of nature/logic/physics already permit everything that's possible. Humans never "invented" anything, they simply observe natural phenomena and exploit those phenomena. Humans cannot make the impossible possible simply by conceiving it.
I'd love to see that bet come true, not that I care about BFL or another companie asic power usage, but I think that if someone have 1000 BTC to bet, this kind of ressources could help a lot of kids/peoples.. Maybe one of the kid that will be saved, will be the next Einstein or Ghandi or ..!
my 2 satoshi !
It is like mounting a false motive through a thread over "a bet" you already know the other person has very clearly stated they have already rejected.
Bringing up the "Charity" issue and having members discuss/debate "to whom" the spoils of this bet should go to.....when the proposed donor knows it will never even become a bet is....
I best say no more. I don't like trash talk.
If the Bet occurs between Tom and Josh, may I propose (or second) another user suggestion : http://thewaterproject.org/
Before eating and shelter, water needs are more urgent, 3 days without water = dead !
I'd love to see that bet come true, I dont care about BFL bAsic Avalon asic power usage, any asic miner i'll have, I'll enjoy, sounds and power usage are very secondary to me.
But I think that if someone have 1000 BTC to spare on a bet, this kind of ressources could help a lot of kids/peoples.. Maybe one of the kid that will be saved, will be the next Einstein or Ghandi or ..!
my 2 satoshi !
Before eating and shelter, water needs are more urgent, 3 days without water = dead !
I'd love to see that bet come true, I dont care about BFL bAsic Avalon asic power usage, any asic miner i'll have, I'll enjoy, sounds and power usage are very secondary to me.
But I think that if someone have 1000 BTC to spare on a bet, this kind of ressources could help a lot of kids/peoples.. Maybe one of the kid that will be saved, will be the next Einstein or Ghandi or ..!
my 2 satoshi !
I have to say, this is terrible.
Not only did Inaba turn a hit at Tom on power figures, now he is turning around and making it seem like it was his bet to Tom. (instead of the otherwa around)...It was the other way around.
To top it off....hes now opened a thread and is now making it seem as if Charities will "win out" of this skirmish of words and bitcoin bets....people are all riled up over which charity is more deserving....
You guys are being played with like toys....
I don't know about you, but I am personally offended at this tactic. I understand Psychological games...but this game is one gone way too far. I'd ask for Mod intervention but I don't know if they would even bother with this mess.
Not only did Inaba turn a hit at Tom on power figures, now he is turning around and making it seem like it was his bet to Tom. (instead of the otherwa around)...It was the other way around.
To top it off....hes now opened a thread and is now making it seem as if Charities will "win out" of this skirmish of words and bitcoin bets....people are all riled up over which charity is more deserving....
You guys are being played with like toys....
I don't know about you, but I am personally offended at this tactic. I understand Psychological games...but this game is one gone way too far. I'd ask for Mod intervention but I don't know if they would even bother with this mess.
All the more to stay away from BFL.
+1
In fact I would like to nominate my home town, which I had to leave after we had some severe earthquakes that destroyed the city.
http://christchurchappealtrust.org.nz/
This charity was set up by the New Zealand Prime Minister.
Much of the CBD buildings lost there frontages. My home was fine, my parents lost theirs and had to live with me for 3 months. FEEL MY PAIN!
There is a US-NZ tax free way to donate through the US.
http://www.americanfriendsofchristchurch.org/ways-to-give.html
http://christchurchappealtrust.org.nz/
This charity was set up by the New Zealand Prime Minister.
Much of the CBD buildings lost there frontages. My home was fine, my parents lost theirs and had to live with me for 3 months. FEEL MY PAIN!
There is a US-NZ tax free way to donate through the US.
http://www.americanfriendsofchristchurch.org/ways-to-give.html
| Purpose | Donation amount |
| AFOC: Hardship & Relief Reference: 010 | $100.00 USD |
I specified that it was donated on behalf of scary-eyed batman, so if they don't thank you, punch them in the nuts.
Now that is the REAL spirit of charity.
I went to Ethiopia last year, and we worked with A Child's Right, which is now called Splash. They focus on water filtration, as it's a very cost effective to install and maintain clean drinking water.
We also worked with The Selamta Family Project, one of the most successful
I'm actually not able to go back this year, but my sister has an opportunity to go there, and she'll be meeting with all the great people I met.
My brother is also heavily involved with Not For Sale, a highly effective anti-slavery and anti-sex trafficking organization.
There's all kinds of good stuff going on in with those 3 organizations. Seriously, check them out.
Those are very nice charities,with noble intentions....but how about giving some money to our US kids that are also deserving.Maybe Big Brothers/Sisters or something.Or some education fund to help parentless kids.
Not trying to sound like a jerk either,but I couldn't think of another way to word it,sorry
I totally get what you're saying. I also work with Jr and Sr high students in my local town, and there are some great kids in there. I just don't know much about the Big Brother/Sister organization to make a judgement. However, there are also plenty of organization that deal with sex trafficking here in the US (yes, it does happen here). It's basically forced prostitution. Check out Not For Sale, International Justice Mission, and the Polaris Project. Even Obama made a speech just last month about efforts by the US to put a stop to this.
Sorry if I'm coming on lil strong, but this is something that's very important to me, my family, my friends, and my church. We throw a shit-ton of money and support toward whoever we think can do the best job.
It's cool
Never worked with BB either,just tossed it out there,so to speak.I did do community service for ARC (Association for Retarded Citizens).They are really amazing,working full time jobs & trying to just get along like normal folks
Maybe split the donation between some local orphanages (in Kansas or anywhere here in the states) so the kids can have a decent christmas.Or is there an charity that runs orphanages on a small scale ??
Just thinkin out loud
In fact I would like to nominate my home town, which I had to leave after we had some severe earthquakes that destroyed the city.
http://christchurchappealtrust.org.nz/
This charity was set up by the New Zealand Prime Minister.
Much of the CBD buildings lost there frontages. My home was fine, my parents lost theirs and had to live with me for 3 months. FEEL MY PAIN!
There is a US-NZ tax free way to donate through the US.
http://www.americanfriendsofchristchurch.org/ways-to-give.html
http://christchurchappealtrust.org.nz/
This charity was set up by the New Zealand Prime Minister.
Much of the CBD buildings lost there frontages. My home was fine, my parents lost theirs and had to live with me for 3 months. FEEL MY PAIN!
There is a US-NZ tax free way to donate through the US.
http://www.americanfriendsofchristchurch.org/ways-to-give.html
| Purpose | Donation amount |
| AFOC: Hardship & Relief Reference: 010 | $100.00 USD |
I specified that it was donated on behalf of scary-eyed batman, so if they don't thank you, punch them in the nuts.
I have to say, this is terrible.
Not only did Inaba turn a hit at Tom on power figures, now he is turning around and making it seem like it was his bet to Tom. (instead of the otherwa around)...It was the other way around.
To top it off....hes now opened a thread and is now making it seem as if Charities will "win out" of this skirmish of words and bitcoin bets....people are all riled up over which charity is more deserving....
You guys are being played with like toys....
I don't know about you, but I am personally offended at this tactic. I understand Psychological games...but this game is one gone way too far. I'd ask for Mod intervention but I don't know if they would even bother with this mess.
Not only did Inaba turn a hit at Tom on power figures, now he is turning around and making it seem like it was his bet to Tom. (instead of the otherwa around)...It was the other way around.
To top it off....hes now opened a thread and is now making it seem as if Charities will "win out" of this skirmish of words and bitcoin bets....people are all riled up over which charity is more deserving....
You guys are being played with like toys....
I don't know about you, but I am personally offended at this tactic. I understand Psychological games...but this game is one gone way too far. I'd ask for Mod intervention but I don't know if they would even bother with this mess.
I went to Ethiopia last year, and we worked with A Child's Right, which is now called Splash. They focus on water filtration, as it's a very cost effective to install and maintain clean drinking water.
We also worked with The Selamta Family Project, one of the most successful
I'm actually not able to go back this year, but my sister has an opportunity to go there, and she'll be meeting with all the great people I met.
My brother is also heavily involved with Not For Sale, a highly effective anti-slavery and anti-sex trafficking organization.
There's all kinds of good stuff going on in with those 3 organizations. Seriously, check them out.
Those are very nice charities,with noble intentions....but how about giving some money to our US kids that are also deserving.Maybe Big Brothers/Sisters or something.Or some education fund to help parentless kids.
Not trying to sound like a jerk either,but I couldn't think of another way to word it,sorry
I totally get what you're saying. I also work with Jr and Sr high students in my local town, and there are some great kids in there. I just don't know much about the Big Brother/Sister organization to make a judgement. However, there are also plenty of organization that deal with sex trafficking here in the US (yes, it does happen here). It's basically forced prostitution. Check out Not For Sale, International Justice Mission, and the Polaris Project. Even Obama made a speech just last month about efforts by the US to put a stop to this.
Sorry if I'm coming on lil strong, but this is something that's very important to me, my family, my friends, and my church. We throw a shit-ton of money and support toward whoever we think can do the best job.
It's cool
Never worked with BB either,just tossed it out there,so to speak.I did do community service for ARC (Association for Retarded Citizens).They are really amazing,working full time jobs & trying to just get along like normal folks
Maybe split the donation between some local orphanages (in Kansas or anywhere here in the states) so the kids can have a decent christmas.Or is there an charity that runs orphanages on a small scale ??
Just thinkin out loud
I fail to see how either Tom Cablepair or Inaba can really believe that all this school playground behaviour is any good for either of their organizations.
Has anyone noticed how reputable businesses could easily play this ridiculous game of PR one-up-man-ship, and yet by and large don't do it? Because it makes them look bad? Even when they do engage in this sort of thing, they at least have the sense to dress it up in a bogus intellectual property lawsuit.
You two appear like a pair of WWE wrestlers in a pre-match taunting session (to me, anyway)
Though I see your point, it is sad that when people pay sharks so much money, people (like you?) think that suddenly makes something respectable.Has anyone noticed how reputable businesses could easily play this ridiculous game of PR one-up-man-ship, and yet by and large don't do it? Because it makes them look bad? Even when they do engage in this sort of thing, they at least have the sense to dress it up in a bogus intellectual property lawsuit.
You two appear like a pair of WWE wrestlers in a pre-match taunting session (to me, anyway)
I certainly have no respect for such sharks so I cannot see how them doing something can add any respect at all to it ...
I have a feeling another scammer tag is gonna be handed out soon =P
BFL offers 1000 BTC back up on power claims
you said bfl was trying not to post on this forum or something - to see their own forum...
is it BFL or Inaba?
If the former wouldn't the BFL_Josh user be more appropriate? If the latter: why the misleading topic subject?
Please clarify for those of us losing the distinction between the Inaba and BFL_Josh accounts.
thanks
Since Tom is refusing to actually make the bet he himself proposed between us, I am offering up a guarantee of 1000 BTC to charity (I will take suggestions on which charity to donate this to) if BFL does not meet it's power claims within 10% - meaning if BFL's power consumption is more than 66w for a Single SC, we lose the "bet."
Now, I ask if Tom is willing to step up and back the winning side. He is 100% confident that we will not meet our power claims (which is the genesis of the failed bet), and as such I ask that he pony up 1000 BTC to the same charity if we do make our power claims.
So there it is: Tom is confident that we won't make our power claims, I am confident that we will. I am willing to put up 1000 BTC to show my confidence in BFL products. Is Tom confident enough to do the same or is he just blowing hot air?
is a confusing topicNow, I ask if Tom is willing to step up and back the winning side. He is 100% confident that we will not meet our power claims (which is the genesis of the failed bet), and as such I ask that he pony up 1000 BTC to the same charity if we do make our power claims.
So there it is: Tom is confident that we won't make our power claims, I am confident that we will. I am willing to put up 1000 BTC to show my confidence in BFL products. Is Tom confident enough to do the same or is he just blowing hot air?
you said bfl was trying not to post on this forum or something - to see their own forum...
is it BFL or Inaba?
If the former wouldn't the BFL_Josh user be more appropriate? If the latter: why the misleading topic subject?
Please clarify for those of us losing the distinction between the Inaba and BFL_Josh accounts.
thanks
I didn't know there was a distinction...
I went to Ethiopia last year, and we worked with A Child's Right, which is now called Splash. They focus on water filtration, as it's a very cost effective to install and maintain clean drinking water.
We also worked with The Selamta Family Project, one of the most successful
I'm actually not able to go back this year, but my sister has an opportunity to go there, and she'll be meeting with all the great people I met.
My brother is also heavily involved with Not For Sale, a highly effective anti-slavery and anti-sex trafficking organization.
There's all kinds of good stuff going on in with those 3 organizations. Seriously, check them out.
Those are very nice charities,with noble intentions....but how about giving some money to our US kids that are also deserving.Maybe Big Brothers/Sisters or something.Or some education fund to help parentless kids.
Not trying to sound like a jerk either,but I couldn't think of another way to word it,sorry
I totally get what you're saying. I also work with Jr and Sr high students in my local town, and there are some great kids in there. I just don't know much about the Big Brother/Sister organization to make a judgement. However, there are also plenty of organization that deal with sex trafficking here in the US (yes, it does happen here). It's basically forced prostitution. Check out Not For Sale, International Justice Mission, and the Polaris Project. Even Obama made a speech just last month about efforts by the US to put a stop to this.
Sorry if I'm coming on lil strong, but this is something that's very important to me, my family, my friends, and my church. We throw a shit-ton of money and support toward whoever we think can do the best job.
BFL offers 1000 BTC back up on power claims
you said bfl was trying not to post on this forum or something - to see their own forum...
is it BFL or Inaba?
If the former wouldn't the BFL_Josh user be more appropriate? If the latter: why the misleading topic subject?
Please clarify for those of us losing the distinction between the Inaba and BFL_Josh accounts.
thanks
Since Tom is refusing to actually make the bet he himself proposed between us, I am offering up a guarantee of 1000 BTC to charity (I will take suggestions on which charity to donate this to) if BFL does not meet it's power claims within 10% - meaning if BFL's power consumption is more than 66w for a Single SC, we lose the "bet."
Now, I ask if Tom is willing to step up and back the winning side. He is 100% confident that we will not meet our power claims (which is the genesis of the failed bet), and as such I ask that he pony up 1000 BTC to the same charity if we do make our power claims.
So there it is: Tom is confident that we won't make our power claims, I am confident that we will. I am willing to put up 1000 BTC to show my confidence in BFL products. Is Tom confident enough to do the same or is he just blowing hot air?
is a confusing topicNow, I ask if Tom is willing to step up and back the winning side. He is 100% confident that we will not meet our power claims (which is the genesis of the failed bet), and as such I ask that he pony up 1000 BTC to the same charity if we do make our power claims.
So there it is: Tom is confident that we won't make our power claims, I am confident that we will. I am willing to put up 1000 BTC to show my confidence in BFL products. Is Tom confident enough to do the same or is he just blowing hot air?
you said bfl was trying not to post on this forum or something - to see their own forum...
is it BFL or Inaba?
If the former wouldn't the BFL_Josh user be more appropriate? If the latter: why the misleading topic subject?
Please clarify for those of us losing the distinction between the Inaba and BFL_Josh accounts.
thanks
I went to Ethiopia last year, and we worked with A Child's Right, which is now called Splash. They focus on water filtration, as it's a very cost effective to install and maintain clean drinking water.
We also worked with The Selamta Family Project, one of the most successful
I'm actually not able to go back this year, but my sister has an opportunity to go there, and she'll be meeting with all the great people I met.
My brother is also heavily involved with Not For Sale, a highly effective anti-slavery and anti-sex trafficking organization.
There's all kinds of good stuff going on in with those 3 organizations. Seriously, check them out.
Those are very nice charities,with noble intentions....but how about giving some money to our US kids that are also deserving.Maybe Big Brothers/Sisters or something.Or some education fund to help parentless kids.
Not trying to sound like a jerk either,but I couldn't think of another way to word it,sorry
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