you forgot:
IT IS A FACT THAT OVER 10% OF THE FTC COMPLAINTS ARE DUPLICATES.
IT IS A FACT THAT OVER 10% OF THE FTC COMPLAINTS ARE DUPLICATES.
Another fact is that you aren't hashing with your Monarch!
Topic: BFL Product Failures / Underperformance. - page 3. (Read 28126 times)
Another fact is that you aren't hashing with your Monarch!
It is FACT 6000+ PayPal complaints.
It is FACT 283 FTC complaints.
BFL agreed tacitly to those figures and didn't argue it.
So what about the current numbers of complaints and lawsuits and claimants BCP?
Are you saying everything is ok in BFL land? Are customers happy? You yourself sold off your Monarch orders.
How about we tell the truth. BFL is dead. They won't get this unit out the door you know it. This is the end for them. They won't make another miner they can't compete with Chinese or Israeli teams building and designing working units at this point you know it is over right?
Why not admit it?
Just admit BFL is dead. Say it get it off your chest you know you want to say it.
you forgot:It is FACT 283 FTC complaints.
BFL agreed tacitly to those figures and didn't argue it.
So what about the current numbers of complaints and lawsuits and claimants BCP?
Are you saying everything is ok in BFL land? Are customers happy? You yourself sold off your Monarch orders.
How about we tell the truth. BFL is dead. They won't get this unit out the door you know it. This is the end for them. They won't make another miner they can't compete with Chinese or Israeli teams building and designing working units at this point you know it is over right?
Why not admit it?
Just admit BFL is dead. Say it get it off your chest you know you want to say it.
IT IS A FACT THAT OVER 10% OF THE FTC COMPLAINTS ARE DUPLICATES.
Just admit BFL is dead. Say it get it off your chest you know you want to say it.
I wish. They're more like a zombie. Latest Josh fail:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8492-monarch-engineering-update-31-may-2014-a-25.html#post82550
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The eventual solution will probably be a new version of the board
Another board revision! There goes any chance of shipping in June.
Thread automatically updated every 20 second(s). <--- LOL... need to take faster snap shots so things don't disappear on the BFL boards... was reading... refresh 5 posts just disappeared LOL!
Just admit BFL is dead. Say it get it off your chest you know you want to say it.
I wish. They're more like a zombie. Latest Josh fail:
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/the-monarch-discussion/8492-monarch-engineering-update-31-may-2014-a-25.html#post82550
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The eventual solution will probably be a new version of the board
Another board revision! There goes any chance of shipping in June.
It is FACT 6000+ PayPal complaints.
It is FACT 283 FTC complaints.
BFL agreed tacitly to those figures and didn't argue it.
So what about the current numbers of complaints and lawsuits and claimants BCP?
Are you saying everything is ok in BFL land? Are customers happy? You yourself sold off your Monarch orders.
How about we tell the truth. BFL is dead. They won't get this unit out the door you know it. This is the end for them. They won't make another miner they can't compete with Chinese or Israeli teams building and designing working units at this point you know it is over right?
Why not admit it?
Just admit BFL is dead. Say it get it off your chest you know you want to say it.
It is FACT 283 FTC complaints.
BFL agreed tacitly to those figures and didn't argue it.
So what about the current numbers of complaints and lawsuits and claimants BCP?
Are you saying everything is ok in BFL land? Are customers happy? You yourself sold off your Monarch orders.
How about we tell the truth. BFL is dead. They won't get this unit out the door you know it. This is the end for them. They won't make another miner they can't compete with Chinese or Israeli teams building and designing working units at this point you know it is over right?
Why not admit it?
Just admit BFL is dead. Say it get it off your chest you know you want to say it.
You need more proof than a United States Probation Officers under oath testimony in open court... Even defence council isn't stupid enough to question the validity of that statement...
Plus, BFL did not dispute the numbers of complaints in court (which means it was less than what would have been produced by examination of BFL records).
This is just another case of BCP19 grasping at straws to salvage what he can of his ego. It has to suck for him, all those promises of Monarchs for shilling and now he gets nothing!
I wonder if CNBC would be interested in doing an episode of American Greed on BFL and their astroturfers.
You need more proof than a United States Probation Officers under oath testimony in open court... Even defence council isn't stupid enough to question the validity of that statement...
Plus, BFL did not dispute the numbers of complaints in court (which means it was less than what would have been produced by examination of BFL records).
This is just another case of BCP19 grasping at straws to salvage what he can of his ego. It has to suck for him, all those promises of Monarchs for shilling and now he gets nothing!
I wonder if CNBC would be interested in doing an episode of American Greed on BFL and their astroturfers.
I just had another Jalapeno trip the current protection on my power supply.
That makes it the third unit to do this.
That makes it the third unit to do this.
You will be happy to know that you some how had the EXTREME misfortune of receiving 3 units that fell into the <2% failure rate, unless of course you bought 150 units then ok my apologies your within the BFL official failure rates.
Let me clear up a few points here real quick:
BFL has scammed no one. Unless someone can provide proof to the contrary, they are lying. (Go on, ask for proof from the trolls claiming scams, you'll never get it.)
BFL gave refund for over six months past the estimated shipping date. BFL only stopped giving refunds after shipping started. Anyone who tells you differently is lying.
There was no promised shipping date for the Monarch line and in fact there were big bold text stating that it is a preorder and subject to delay. Anyone who tells you the Monarch is late and that BFL made promises on delivery time is lying.
]BFL has shipped over 50,000 products in the 65nm line. The failure rate is less than 1% (0.72%) not including power supplies. If you include power supplies, that goes to 1.65%. Far lower than industry average and a simply awesome (lack of) failure rate. Contrast to the other mining companies equipment, which has double digit failure rates and it's even better. Anyone who tells you differently is lying.[/li][/list]
OP's experience is the norm. People rarely come to a forum to post when they have a positive experience, they usually come and post to complain. After 50,000 units shipped and you look at the complaints, that should tell you something. Most people are not complaining, just a handful of disgruntled people and a whole lot of trolls who aren't even customers.[/li][/list]
The only people who get rude responses from me are people who initiate a conversation with rudeness or lies. Go on, ask one of the trolls to provide proof to the contrary, you won't find it. The secret is being respectful and polite and you get the same in return. Be an asshole and you get the same in return... funny how that works.
[/list] BFL has scammed no one. Unless someone can provide proof to the contrary, they are lying. (Go on, ask for proof from the trolls claiming scams, you'll never get it.)
BFL gave refund for over six months past the estimated shipping date. BFL only stopped giving refunds after shipping started. Anyone who tells you differently is lying.
There was no promised shipping date for the Monarch line and in fact there were big bold text stating that it is a preorder and subject to delay. Anyone who tells you the Monarch is late and that BFL made promises on delivery time is lying.
]BFL has shipped over 50,000 products in the 65nm line. The failure rate is less than 1% (0.72%) not including power supplies. If you include power supplies, that goes to 1.65%. Far lower than industry average and a simply awesome (lack of) failure rate. Contrast to the other mining companies equipment, which has double digit failure rates and it's even better. Anyone who tells you differently is lying.[/li][/list]
OP's experience is the norm. People rarely come to a forum to post when they have a positive experience, they usually come and post to complain. After 50,000 units shipped and you look at the complaints, that should tell you something. Most people are not complaining, just a handful of disgruntled people and a whole lot of trolls who aren't even customers.[/li][/list]
The only people who get rude responses from me are people who initiate a conversation with rudeness or lies. Go on, ask one of the trolls to provide proof to the contrary, you won't find it. The secret is being respectful and polite and you get the same in return. Be an asshole and you get the same in return... funny how that works.
I just had another Jalapeno trip the current protection on my power supply.
That makes it the third unit to do this.
That makes it the third unit to do this.
Has anyone sued these people? This is illegal just like delivering a product that is not working is... (I think)
http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/butterfly-labs-and-bf-labs-inc-bitcoin-miners Class Action starte
Anyone else have some Product Failures / Underperformance to report?
I have a failure to report... I went to my profile page and looked at the trust rating (which says 0 to me) and notice this:These ratings are from people who are not in your trust network. They may be totally inaccurate.
Bicknelski (blah blah blah)
YipYip (blah blah blah)
Looks like the forum is right, as they ARE totally inaccurate.
Anyone else have some Product Failures / Underperformance to report?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6035837
Fire Hazard PSA on BFL PSUs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVYHYfzEq4
Fire Hazard PSA on BFL PSUs.
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Quote from: jborkl on April 02, 2014, 23:09:41
I took mine apart to see what was going wrong a long time ago.
The 3 main caps and main fuse going into the PCB are blowing- creating the white powder.
Daklore:
I know what your saying, I had a small cap fall out as well. I had one almost blowout in my face.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGVYHYfzEq4
I contacted that lawyer who won Mr. Lolli's case. After long silence he said that $2k deposit is required, his rate is something like $200/h and no guarantee he gives. Guess that story was just another scam cover operation.
Thank you for links Bicknellski. What I can do is to check the thermalpaste and assembling accuracy. The SLok of BFL said that opening the miner does not looses warranty but who they knows.
Thank you for links Bicknellski. What I can do is to check the thermalpaste and assembling accuracy. The SLok of BFL said that opening the miner does not looses warranty but who they knows.
Has anyone sued these people? This is illegal just like delivering a product that is not working is... (I think)
Lol.
Has anyone sued these people? This is illegal just like delivering a product that is not working is... (I think)
16'Celsius here today and 4 of 5 miners are overheating/throttling now.
Heat-sink pad issues?
Check out links:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4624265
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3792891
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3810216
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jalapeno-to-tamper-or-not-to-tamper-287306
and try sending lightfoot a PM he might be able to help you step by step.
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