Topic: BFL Requests Input - page 25. (Read 34822 times)
Joel Katz would be the best solution. He's critical but not to the point of fanaticism.
... credible, verifiable individuals to be flown here to KC sometime ...
Why not contact people from e.g. tomshardware.com, wired.com or computerbase.de? Or from c't (very reputable German computer magazine, always keen to test/experiment with new hardware gimmicks).
Yeah, just give tomshardware money and they will say anything.
... credible, verifiable individuals to be flown here to KC sometime ...
Why not contact people from e.g. tomshardware.com, wired.com or computerbase.de? Or from c't (very reputable German computer magazine, always keen to test/experiment with new hardware gimmicks).
In addition, it would be nice story for them - and promotion for the Bitcoin community.
i'd love if c't (or iX) would make an article about bfl!
... credible, verifiable individuals to be flown here to KC sometime ...
Why not contact people from e.g.
In addition, it would be nice story for them - and promotion for the Bitcoin community.
If we are successful with the selection of representatives of the community accepted by BFL we should also define a list of questions. I guess the objective is to prove that BFL can deliver an ASIC miner. BFL will unlikely disclose details of the chips (tech node) but if we get power dissipation and hash rate it should be sufficient. So my questions would be:
- chip size (picture)
- hash rate per chip (... if possible proven on an laptop provided by the visiting representative)
- power dissipation (can be measured on the whole device and divided by the number chips :-))
We should probably ask in advance what kind of questions we can ask and what answers we get (the visitor has only to confirm it). If the visitors will be able only to shoot pictures of stuff members assembling BFL-singles then maybe the trip is pointless.
Josh, please let us know what You want to show to the visitor.
- chip size (picture)
- hash rate per chip (... if possible proven on an laptop provided by the visiting representative)
- power dissipation (can be measured on the whole device and divided by the number chips :-))
We should probably ask in advance what kind of questions we can ask and what answers we get (the visitor has only to confirm it). If the visitors will be able only to shoot pictures of stuff members assembling BFL-singles then maybe the trip is pointless.
Josh, please let us know what You want to show to the visitor.
Casascius, Joel Katz, cypherdoc, gmaxwell
Excellent choices.
How about DiabloD3 
He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
Reeses has been way too vocal (rude) with respect to BFL.He may try to sabotage the plant or something
He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
Reeses has been way too vocal (rude) with respect to BFL.He may try to sabotage the plant or something
The problem is: if he came back and said everything was great, we'd all know it was great, but if he said there was problem and BFL is all f'ed up and we need to pull out now, we couldn't trust it. I agree with an earlier poster that someone who has preorders with BFL makes sense because they would have a motivation to blow a whistle but not be a hater with an agenda.
How about DiabloD3
He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
I know he's a mod, but I don't think it's fair to invite someone who's a blatant critic, to the point of starting a betting pool whether or not BFL will even deliver. He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
Forgot about the bet,my bad
As far as critics go,who isn't one who hasn't REALLY put the bad in "bad mouthing"
My votes: Yochdog and Cablez
I found and exposed Sonny's history on the forum (here), but I'm not a BFL hater. I have a Jalapeno and Single on preorder. I'm not a developer or electrical/computer engineer, so I wouldn't be much use verifying those aspects of the devices. I work in the tech field on the business side of things. I have mined on GPU before in Inaba/BFL_Josh's pool, but I don't have any FPGA devices.
All I could offer the community are photos of the devices in action (and kill-a-watt readings) and my word about what I see. Perhaps people find me credible since I was the person who exposed Sonny's connection to the lottery scheme. I live in Chicago, so I'm fairly close. I would only do this if other people want me to do it. I'm not particularly interested in going to Kansas City in late October/early November just for the hell of it. I'm also employed, so weekends work best for me (I will not use more than one vacation day for this). If I'm not allowed to post photo evidence of working devices, I'm not interested in going. Those are my terms
All I could offer the community are photos of the devices in action (and kill-a-watt readings) and my word about what I see. Perhaps people find me credible since I was the person who exposed Sonny's connection to the lottery scheme. I live in Chicago, so I'm fairly close. I would only do this if other people want me to do it. I'm not particularly interested in going to Kansas City in late October/early November just for the hell of it. I'm also employed, so weekends work best for me (I will not use more than one vacation day for this). If I'm not allowed to post photo evidence of working devices, I'm not interested in going. Those are my terms
Casascius, Joel Katz, cypherdoc, gmaxwell
All solid choices imo.
Casascius, Joel Katz, cypherdoc, gmaxwell
I'd say WhitePhantom or my self.
How about DiabloD3
He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
I know he's a mod, but I don't think it's fair to invite someone who's a blatant critic, to the point of starting a betting pool whether or not BFL will even deliver. He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
He also met pirate in person and trusted him fully.
Hold on... how/when did I miss this?! If this is true, then I'd like to reiterate that Gigavps shouldn't go.Also, what do you guys think about Casascius and Meni Rosenfeld? I am not sure that Rosenfeld lives in the US, but from my recollection he has some sort of degree in mathematics and invented the DGM/DGS algorithm. In my book, they are reputable people that don't have much to do with BFL.
EDIT: Josh (Inaba), only 1-2 people can go?
I think casacius is trustworthy and he is in the US.
Gigavps and reeses were big-time pirate supporters.
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8693 reeses 79 pirateat40 2012-01-28 02:28:55 10 solid as a brick and completely trustworthy. Lots of profit potential.
11153 pirateat40 -41 reeses 2012-05-24 15:13:06 9 Core - The very best of the community.
7853 gigavps 257 pirateat40 2012-08-30 22:29:00 10 all business, no drama
7739 pirateat40 -41 gigavps 2012-08-17 22:30:23 10 They don't come better.
How about DiabloD3
He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
Reeses has been way too vocal (rude) with respect to BFL.He may try to sabotage the plant or something
He has a mining company,designed a miner & dosen't think too highly of BFL.
Reeses has been way too vocal (rude) with respect to BFL.He may try to sabotage the plant or something
He also met pirate in person and trusted him fully.
Hold on... how/when did I miss this?! If this is true, then I'd like to reiterate that Gigavps shouldn't go.
He also met pirate in person and trusted him fully.
Hold on... how/when did I miss this?! If this is true, then I'd like to reiterate that Gigavps shouldn't go.Also, what do you guys think about Casascius and Meni Rosenfeld? I am not sure that Rosenfeld lives in the US, but from my recollection he has some sort of degree in mathematics and invented the DGM/DGS algorithm. In my book, they are reputable people that don't have much to do with BFL.
EDIT: Josh (Inaba), only 1-2 people can go?
- I am a BFL customer (Minirig hosted by Inaba + SC preorder).
That counts you out in my books.
That type of connection is quite close, and is a scab to be picked.
To most BFL purchasers that is a big investment in BFL, and being hosted by BFL makes you even closer.
Need someone critical, not connected. Nothing more than a BitForce single purchaser if at all.
I can't speak for them, but I'm sure they want someone that removes any doubt in people's(bitcointalk) minds. Otherwise the exercise is a pointless waste of money.[/list]
I am going to throw my name into the hat for a chance to partake in the "BFL Experience".
Also East Coast USA.
Out of all the people who have nominated themselves (who wouldn't?), I would actually approve of you the most. Also East Coast USA.
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