Put up what?
ASICs
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Oh FFS, really? See, this is the kind of shit that makes me not want to even bother at all.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
Let me make my reasoning more succinct.
I cannot knowingly associate with convicted criminals who have engaged in crimes of moral turpitude, especially those involving money.
This is admitted to. By coming to KC, I would have to answer to that.
And do not act the aggrieved party. Grow a pair and man up. You're better than this.
Put up what?
Having held a TSSCI security clearance myself, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on your story, thanks for trying though.
And we'll call BS on your story. Put up or shut up.
Having held a TSSCI security clearance myself, I'm gonna have to call bullshit on your story, thanks for trying though.
I vote me. I could drive from Chicago area with a couple other miners. I am impartial, transparent and have many years experience in IT management. I am a big proponent of bitcoin and want to do what is best for the nascent industry.
http://www.visualcv.com/nathanghart
In fact, I would like to come visit regardless of whether the community nominated me. Let me know if this is possible Josh.
Kindly,
Nathan
http://www.visualcv.com/nathanghart
In fact, I would like to come visit regardless of whether the community nominated me. Let me know if this is possible Josh.
Kindly,
Nathan
There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist
REALLY? Who?
I saw a comment a few days ago from someone demanding to see pics of Minirigs in the wild :S
Josh is certainly right, you can't please all of the people all of the time, but this thread was more about consensus and seeing who was willing. I see yochdog with the most support and a confirmation to go, and sunbreak as a second.
Oh FFS, really? See, this is the kind of shit that makes me not want to even bother at all.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
Let me make my reasoning more succinct.
I cannot knowingly associate with convicted criminals who have engaged in crimes of moral turpitude, especially those involving money.
This is admitted to. By coming to KC, I would have to answer to that.
And do not act the aggrieved party. Grow a pair and man up. You're better than this.
I would be willing to make the trip if BFL will have me.
I think we have our answer. 
I have no idea if the community "trusts" me at all, but I may be willing to do this, for the sake of the community as a whole. I've been fairly sceptical of BFL from the beginning. Came very close to buying some Singles back at their launch, but ended up going the other route. And now I'm fairly well aligned with "the other camp" (ie the other more open FPGA manufacturers). But if BFL is making a legitimate attempt at being open, I'm willing to help with that, to hopefully improve professionalism in this space as a whole. BFL is one of several players that is in a position to have a major impact on Bitcoin soon, and if they can be convinced to be a lot more open about things it will be good for everyone (I think).
Not saying I'll buy their product
I'm already fairly invested in alternative products right now, but I think that, combined with my decent exposure to most of the recent dedicating mining tech, along with real Electronics Engineering, and FPGA Development knowledge and experience, makes me "qualified" if you will, to judge....
Not saying I'll buy their product
I'm already fairly invested in alternative products right now, but I think that, combined with my decent exposure to most of the recent dedicating mining tech, along with real Electronics Engineering, and FPGA Development knowledge and experience, makes me "qualified" if you will, to judge....I think that you Glasswalker would be a good choice BUT if I remember right... you are working for one of the BFL competitors. So your visit would be a conflicting of interests. Correct me if I'm wrong.
+1 vote for yochdog
Oh FFS, really? See, this is the kind of shit that makes me not want to even bother at all.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
Josh,
Don't let Reeses ruin this for the other 99.7% of the forumers that have an open mind, and simply desire information regarding BFL ASICs.
There is a hunger for a "peak behind the curtain", so to speak, and your idea to have a couple trusted members evaluate the product and BFL operations is a sound idea despite Reeses objections.
Also, grow a thicker skin.
Oh FFS, really? See, this is the kind of shit that makes me not want to even bother at all.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
Josh,
Don't let Reeses ruin this for the other 99.7% of the forumers that have an open mind, and simply desire information regarding BFL ASICs.
There is a hunger for a "peak behind the curtain", so to speak, and your idea to have a couple trusted members evaluate the product and BFL operations is a sound idea despite Reeses objections.
Oh FFS, really? See, this is the kind of shit that makes me not want to even bother at all.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
You are right Inaba, where there are so many people must be all kind of persons:
-incredulous, even if goes to your facilities and see all working, will think all is fake, cardboard walls, workers are figurants, seeing the PC screen showing a 3.5 Gh/s device running, he will follow the cable that connects it to PC, (maybe this is a recording or a hacked version of bfgminer?).
-credulous, i've been scammed by pirateat40 and I believe him when said lies once and again, I think he will pay the october 12 as he recently said
You can't satisfy eveyone. Use a math formula like when you make a mean, discard 5% of trolls and 5% os asskissers and take the 90% rest.
Regards
There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist
REALLY? Who?
Oh FFS, really? See, this is the kind of shit that makes me not want to even bother at all.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
There is, literally, no pleasing people. In the future, when someone asks "Why doesn't BFL provide YYYY information/pictures/stats/specs/etc?", point them back to this thread. No matter what we provide or do, tinfoil hat people will try to drag it down. There's still people that don't believe the FPGAs exist, I guess it should come as no surprise that no amount of proof will ever be sufficient for some people.
I'd vote for Reeses if he's interested in going. He might be an abrasive asshole, but he's the only one I've seen on the forums not related to BFL or a competitor talk about actually using chip design packages.
I find your lack of faith disturbing. You leave room for doubt? Besides, everyone knows that Cadence products crash and are held together with so much hacked up special-case code and prayer. It's not exactly a secret...is it?
I can't go for a couple reasons. The only necessary one is that my wife has an insane security clearance, meaning that I have to be cleared as well. Given what is documented about Sonny, I cannot risk her job because of a forum. Not because she makes a lot, but because she really likes litigating and would divorce me in a hot second if I engaged in illicit activity.
I'm not confident enough in BFL to keep me out of the shit.
Consider this the BFL equivalent of the Pirate dinner, except with airfare, hotel, and a "tour" of assembly facilities. I think it's a sufficiently rigged demo and Sonny is going back to his scammer bag of tricks to calm down the restless horde.
Sorry, Josh. I call it as I see it. Nice distraction, though. That's why it's such an effective technique. Have one or two "hot" girls who laugh at their jokes guide through the visit, offer them free t-shirts and mugs, and they'll be yours for life.
To use a trite forum cliché, this is right out of the playbook.
EDIT: Plus, I'm not carrying a logic analyzer on the plane. Can you imagine getting that through security, even at SFO?
+1 to yochdog, trustworthy guy!
I'd like to go, but I'm pretty sure I'm not that well known.
I'll nominate yochdog. He's a miner, seems pretty well known, has BFL FPGAs, and has traded tens of thousands of dollars with forum members including a few thousand with me. I'd trust his report.
I'll nominate yochdog. He's a miner, seems pretty well known, has BFL FPGAs, and has traded tens of thousands of dollars with forum members including a few thousand with me. I'd trust his report.
My nomination as well.
DeathAndTaxes (if he has time) would be an excellent choice, as well as JoelKatz.
Want to cast my vote for Yochdog. He trusted me and gave me a chance when I started on this forum a couple of months ago. He is a great member of this community!
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