Topic: {BFL} Why The Monarch Might Just Work - page 3. (Read 5994 times)

or just insane.

“Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.”
Albert Einstein

Are people really considering this? You never got your preorder, so roll it over into the new preorder? lol...

There are some really stupid people here.

Any preorder from any manufacturer anywhere in the bitcoin universe is a roll of the dice when it comes to ROI. I understand people trying to compare a preorder with BFL or Avalon with a preorder from Apple, but surely everyone here knows going in that they are completely different. It would be nice if bitcoin was a mature system with mature manufacturing and distribution channels for ASIC hardware. But it isn't. You know that, I know that, we all know that. Any preorder in any bitcoin hardware is a gamble, pure and simple. Every company promises X hash at Y delivery date, and none of them ever comes close. Maybe someday someone will, but only time will tell.

ASICminer sells hardware on-hand, and does not take preorders. They do it right, but then everyone screams that their hardware will never make ROI. This is the state of bitcoin ASIC technology. You roll the dice on a pre-order or you buy something you can get in a few days at a price that will never achieve ROI.

I don't see the venting against BFL or any other manufacturer as very constructive, unless it has some therapeutic value. Blaming the dice when you crap out makes you a poor gambler.

Monarch huh? You know this guy is going to be turning up in two weeks(TM)

I don't know how you could say anything good about BFL unless you won the early shipping lottery.

I gave them the benefit of the doubt for 1 year but no more.

They do -- the Persian who is currently in Gaul.

It might work, and the design is good. But I guess it is just a PCIe USB card with a lot of ASICs, heatsink and those cheap NVIDIA/AMD replacement fan. I heard something about a USB port too, so that suggests that the card uses USB internally.

it's funny because op is troll bait. say something good about bfl and BAM!!! 32 haters show up to scream bloody murder.  it's the anti-troll troll.

bravo. bravo.

Oh wtf beat me to it.

For me there is really only one possible explanation.

BFL have direct access to advanced ancient alien technology.

Can more people ignore me?

I want to know if I can get to black?

Inaba assures me all the time that I have nothing important to say. I promise.

Color
#EEE8AA

How dark is my ignore button right now?

I first saw the pic in a hate thread and LOL'd as I thought it was a joke picture.
I ROFLMAO when I found out the device really has been announced and it's their official image, I mean shit, they aren't even trying anymore. They just slapped their logo onto a photo of a GPU and promised an insane $/GH ratio, knowing people will go for it out of sheer desperation

How can anybody possibly be insane enough to pre-order stuff when they still have not shipped stuff pre-ordered last year??

No more preorders !

P.S. I still have not received my Jalepenos.

Go ahead and piss your money away. You are free to do so.

The fact they are lying about the tape out? Evidence?

I just don't see how they will be able to fit all that in a unit that looks like a graphics card. The KnCMiner Jupiter unit (28nm, 400GH/s, <1000W), and HashFast BabyJet (28nm, 400gh/s, claimed 400W) units are desktop sizes, and that is mostly to dissipate the heat with giant fans. The Jupiter unit will have 6 fans to cool 4 chips, and the Babyjet unit will be water cooled.  I highly doubt BFL will be able to accomplish that type of heat dissipation in a package that small. They are just going to stringing along new customers until they under deliver again and just break up the order into multiple units.

I'm still waiting on my 5GH/s order from March from BFL. I expect to get it late September/early October at current rate of shipping, at which point it'll just be a nice reminder of money I threw away, because it won't even get me ROI in a full year, and the sad part is, it was only $167 including shipping -_-'. Whats the point in having a unit that won't even make you $150 in an entire year? The least they could do is upgrade those late orders to 7GH/s for free, so there's at least a chance of ROI. They don't lose anything, all it is, is a firmware upgrade! No extra HW cost! Those bastards....

Anyway...

Ordered a Saturn unit (200GH/s) from KnCMiner for October delivery, I really hope they can bring back the faith in ASIC Mining companies (Looking at you BFL. )

I think there's a basic problem with "ignore," particularly if used on a genuine troll, as opposed to someone who holds views that are consistently opposed to one's own.  

It's kind of the opposite of an xml parser which didn't have a 'deep' option in its cloneNode:  here, you still get the troll's posts in the quoted replies.  A well written state machine could, in principle, "ignore" the responses to ignored posts as well.

And there's the problem:  sometimes, responses to trolls are more insightful than "Oh, yeah?  Well, feck you," and somebody might want to read them.  IMO, it's better just to let 'er buck.

Thank you.  And you as well, Mr. Hellfish.

The darker it is the more users that have that person on ignore.  I guess it's designed as a sort of "troll meter"?