Only 21 days late for the bet 
You would accept the bet as fulfilled now? I wouldn't.
Topic: BFL's Jalapeno exists - I have one in my hand and just uploaded a video - page 2. (Read 12967 times)
April 25, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
You would accept the bet as fulfilled now? I wouldn't.
April 25, 2013, 12:23:26 PM
How much were you paid to use same such a ridiculous title for this thread?
You could have used: it is not a scam, BUY BUY BUY!
I can imagine how much you were paid. You were paid..... A Jalapeno. Nice and cheap way to buy someone.
Shame on you.
This doesn't even make sense. Why is "it is not a scam, BUY BUY BUY!" a better title than what OP chose? Quote
BFL's Jalapeno exists - I have one in my hand and just uploaded a video
You could have used: it is not a scam, BUY BUY BUY!
I can imagine how much you were paid. You were paid..... A Jalapeno. Nice and cheap way to buy someone.
Shame on you.
April 25, 2013, 12:22:26 PM
So basically order with PayPal and they will legally force BFL to bump you in the queue!?
I wonder if you can get even higher in the queue by ordering with PayPal and then immediately canceling your PayPal account? April 25, 2013, 11:11:36 AM
How much were you paid to use such a ridiculous title for this thread?
You could have used: it is not a scam, BUY BUY BUY!
I can imagine how much you were paid. You were paid..... A Jalapeno. Nice and cheap way to buy someone.
Shame on you.
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BFL's Jalapeno exists - I have one in my hand and just uploaded a video
You could have used: it is not a scam, BUY BUY BUY!
I can imagine how much you were paid. You were paid..... A Jalapeno. Nice and cheap way to buy someone.
Shame on you.
April 25, 2013, 10:02:10 AM
For what it's worth....
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/110174663470490530041/albums/5870611557972117729
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/110174663470490530041/albums/5870611557972117729
April 25, 2013, 07:54:12 AM
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Update: I have exchanged some email with @BFL_Josh , and some things have been clarified.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
Define happy dude?
Happy = receiving a machine that will make you ~$1000 a month (at current difficulty, at least) for free
Jealous = making fun of someone for being happy. I'm jealous too.
April 25, 2013, 07:31:45 AM
Only 21 days late for the bet
April 25, 2013, 07:26:35 AM
What about everyone else?
Really?
They throw dog shit at people 6 months later and they are happy? Come on.
Really?
They throw dog shit at people 6 months later and they are happy? Come on.
April 25, 2013, 07:25:00 AM
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Update: I have exchanged some email with @BFL_Josh , and some things have been clarified.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
Define happy dude?
He got a free 4Gh/s review unit. What's not to be happy about?
April 25, 2013, 07:23:08 AM
This is actually interesting:
1 chip fullspeed = 25W and 4.1GH
2 chips underclocked = 32W and 5.5GH
This is REALLY interesting for overclocking!!!
Still has the problem that 8 chips will never be able to give 50GH...
@grnbrg we'll see how long that poor little chip lasts!
1 chip fullspeed = 25W and 4.1GH
2 chips underclocked = 32W and 5.5GH
This is REALLY interesting for overclocking!!!
Still has the problem that 8 chips will never be able to give 50GH...
@grnbrg we'll see how long that poor little chip lasts!
April 25, 2013, 07:18:44 AM
I'd be happy if it shipped 6 months ago with problems. What a joke.
April 25, 2013, 07:16:41 AM
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Update: I have exchanged some email with @BFL_Josh , and some things have been clarified.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
Exactly. It doesn't look that bad after all. If normal (customer) jalapenos have two underclocked chips, they should have potential to be overclocked to ~8GH/s. With proper cooling of course.
April 25, 2013, 07:09:29 AM
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Update: I have exchanged some email with @BFL_Josh , and some things have been clarified.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
My unit is probably closer to prototype than a production-quality review unit. In particular, one of the two chips in my miner is a dud, and non-functional. Production 5GH/s miners will all have 2 functional ASIC chips. Because mine has only one, it has been clocked higher, and is not quite capable of reaching 5 GH/s. But I'm happy with it.
grnbrg.
Define happy dude?
April 25, 2013, 06:01:44 AM
one chip instead of two... priceless!
No wonder that they tried to keep it a secret.
lmao!
April 25, 2013, 05:31:45 AM
@enmaku
please open it and make inside pics
please open it and make inside pics
April 25, 2013, 04:13:45 AM
Your thinking about this backwards.
Think of it as BFL having to "actually ship" the products people pay for (after an unreasonably long delay).
If you think about it that way, there is no problem. If you also think about it...BFL has said they are a week (ish) from shipping en mass. If that is so, there aren't going to be any "mass cancellations", just mass shipping.
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But if you are ok with the current status quo, simply keep thinking negatively. Last I checked, some customers are getting (pre-production) hardware. That is a bonus. BFL just needed a candle to be lit under their proverbial bottom.
Think of it as BFL having to "actually ship" the products people pay for (after an unreasonably long delay).
If you think about it that way, there is no problem. If you also think about it...BFL has said they are a week (ish) from shipping en mass. If that is so, there aren't going to be any "mass cancellations", just mass shipping.
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But if you are ok with the current status quo, simply keep thinking negatively. Last I checked, some customers are getting (pre-production) hardware. That is a bonus. BFL just needed a candle to be lit under their proverbial bottom.
April 25, 2013, 04:09:03 AM
I actually hope you are right: then if BFL survives the mass cancellation cashflow wise, I will be bumped in the queue enormously since I ordered with BTC. I think PayPal customers would then talk to PayPal and it would result in a class action suit against them from angry customers missing out on the last opportunity in BTC ever.
I think you just have to realize no matter how hard you try to convince people BFL is scam, you are doing it to improve your own difficulty, and it's transparent.
I think you just have to realize no matter how hard you try to convince people BFL is scam, you are doing it to improve your own difficulty, and it's transparent.
April 25, 2013, 04:02:40 AM
By the way,
Since I have my own "ideas" and "conspiracy" theories. I am going to say this prediction. That BFL won't tell anyone who they have to ship to, what order number it may be, or even acknowledge that these folks have gotten their products. (and I am not talking about developers)
Why?
Because then people would want to know what probably "triggered it" and how to skip the queue...pronto~!
People are already thinking this on the BFL forum (in the blogs). So it won't be long before BFL starts avoiding the questions that Jalapeno customers will want to know the most about.
"If you ship some persons Jalapeno before mine...why did that happen exactly? Paypal "forced" you to do this? Then how do I force Paypal to force you to ship mine now? etc."
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Personally, I am waiting for the geniuses at BFL forums to figure out that alot of them paid through another Payment Processor called BitPay. Which means they are probably afforded protections like that of Paypal*. With the folks of BitPay being capable of forcing BFL to do pretty much the same things.
It's kind of common sense. Lets hope the BFL forums figure this out.
*Well one hopes BitPay affords their customers actual protection! (Or even enforces "standards" on their merchants)
Since I have my own "ideas" and "conspiracy" theories. I am going to say this prediction. That BFL won't tell anyone who they have to ship to, what order number it may be, or even acknowledge that these folks have gotten their products. (and I am not talking about developers)
Why?
Because then people would want to know what probably "triggered it" and how to skip the queue...pronto~!
People are already thinking this on the BFL forum (in the blogs). So it won't be long before BFL starts avoiding the questions that Jalapeno customers will want to know the most about.
"If you ship some persons Jalapeno before mine...why did that happen exactly? Paypal "forced" you to do this? Then how do I force Paypal to force you to ship mine now? etc."
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Personally, I am waiting for the geniuses at BFL forums to figure out that alot of them paid through another Payment Processor called BitPay. Which means they are probably afforded protections like that of Paypal*. With the folks of BitPay being capable of forcing BFL to do pretty much the same things.
It's kind of common sense. Lets hope the BFL forums figure this out.
*Well one hopes BitPay affords their customers actual protection! (Or even enforces "standards" on their merchants)
April 25, 2013, 03:53:13 AM
"Because we have not shipped for such a long time PayPal is requiring us to ship a small number of the orders made through them and send them the tracking numbers."
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/137-first-most-boring-update.html
Awesome.... so much for 1/3 plan.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/blogs/bfl_jody/137-first-most-boring-update.html
Awesome.... so much for 1/3 plan.
I somehow don't think PayPal is going to be comforted (in any way!) by you shipping out a few dozen orders...after almost a year...out of 10,000+ orders.
I "think" what happened is people read my previous postings and started opening disputes. That led to issues with Paypal investigating...or at least I'd think it would. Though Jody says this is not the case....yeah sure.
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I know one merchant account I had required me to post a ton of Shipping numbers as a standard security check. I didn't do anything particularly wrong though, it was just a normal thing. In this case though, the day after Josh and I had a few spaz words...makes me think it is not a coincidence.
Paypal is unlikely to solicit you for orders made 7+ months ago. Paypal knows (just as any merchant account company knows) that after 90+ days, the numbers get reused for different customers. Be it USPS, UPS, or Fedex.
I "speculate" that the more likely scenario is that Paypal got a wiff that something was amiss and they asked for the last 90 days worth of shipping numbers. Not by "types of product" I would think. That is something that seems in-congruent and illogical to me for Paypal to do. They (and their insurance) are on the hook for millions if BFL does anything odd or out of character with their merchant account.
(My speculative hypothesis is the following:)
More than likely a couple of customers complained to Paypal after reading Josh and I going "spastic" about Paypal refunds. Paypal then conducts "an audit" of their merchant account. BFL has to scramble to come up with tons of tracking numbers to comply with the request.
Honestly though, I wouldn't know how they could explain that their tracking numbers are pretty damn new compared to the order date. I highly doubt they will pass the audit for that reason alone. (assuming there is an audit...which there appears to be).
If they fail to produce, things can only get worse as Paypal will likely freeze the account and refund every customer transaction at once. Which will likely cause Bank issues at BFL's end.
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Then again, what do I know? You'd probably be better off listening to Jody's version of events. I am sure her account of events are going to be mighty consistent and logical....right?
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