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sunk818

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Quote from: bible_pay on February 11, 2019, 11:57:19 AM

Pog primarily works the best on the machine you keep your bbp balance (as pog uses coin age to tithe).
If you want to mine on 3 machines, I recommend to set machine A up for POG, then machines B & C for solo or pool mining.

With 1187, is there a limit on how many times we can tithe and a max tithe amount?

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Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 11:29:11 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on February 11, 2019, 09:51:38 AM

Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 09:02:59 AM

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Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 05:00:49 AM

Dear,
after install wallet 1.1.8.5 my balance go down from 203.000 ti 4.000 ( more or less ).I really don't understand whatz appened.
Now I install a new wallet on main pc with the wallet.dat backup stop at 31/1/2019 date where the balance is right.

I'm really don't know what appened, I still waiting the connection to peer network because no connection with source...

Thanks for any help or suggestion.

Cheers
Ale

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7nmvm8/how_to_update_clean_wallets/

It is slightly possible (without knowing you specifics) that you mined on a fork. But if you had a greater than 4000 balance for some time, that is unlikely. Follow the steps on the "cleaning" guide and you should get things back on track. I have seen a specific case where the steps had to be followed twice to achieve the results.

But...Already done that... right now there aren't any source block available... So no connection at all

Please ensure your clock is correct within 2 seconds, your timezone is correct, delete banlist.dat, restart, and if you dont find a node within 5 mins:
addnode 45.32.201.137 onetry

Rigth now everything since to be ok, wallet is update.
A question... I mine with 3 computers I add the configuration for POG in all of 3 or just in one ?

Thanks a lot.

Pog primarily works the best on the machine you keep your bbp balance (as pog uses coin age to tithe).
If you want to mine on 3 machines, I recommend to set machine A up for POG, then machines B & C for solo or pool mining.

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Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 09:02:59 AM

Thanks a lot.
But...Already done that... right now there aren't any source block available... So no connection at all

If you went from 4k to 203k quickly mining many rewards, you were mining on a sidechain and those rewards are invalid.

Quit BiblePay QT Wallet

Backup your wallet.dat - erase everything except for wallet.dat and biblepay.conf

Inside biblepay.conf make sure you have at least:

addnode=node.biblepay.org

So, inside %appdata%/BiblePayCore should only be those two files.

Restart QT wallet

If your wallet syncs great.

If you see that your total balance is incorrect, wait until you are fully synced.

Then do a Tools, Wallet Repair, zapwallettxes=1

this may bring back some of transactions were accidentally forgotten

lalexcross

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Quote from: bible_pay on February 11, 2019, 09:51:38 AM

Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 09:02:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 05:00:49 AM

Dear,
after install wallet 1.1.8.5 my balance go down from 203.000 ti 4.000 ( more or less ).I really don't understand whatz appened.
Now I install a new wallet on main pc with the wallet.dat backup stop at 31/1/2019 date where the balance is right.

I'm really don't know what appened, I still waiting the connection to peer network because no connection with source...

Thanks for any help or suggestion.

Cheers
Ale

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7nmvm8/how_to_update_clean_wallets/

It is slightly possible (without knowing you specifics) that you mined on a fork. But if you had a greater than 4000 balance for some time, that is unlikely. Follow the steps on the "cleaning" guide and you should get things back on track. I have seen a specific case where the steps had to be followed twice to achieve the results.

But...Already done that... right now there aren't any source block available... So no connection at all

Please ensure your clock is correct within 2 seconds, your timezone is correct, delete banlist.dat, restart, and if you dont find a node within 5 mins:
addnode 45.32.201.137 onetry

Rigth now everything since to be ok, wallet is update.
A question... I mine with 3 computers I add the configuration for POG in all of 3 or just in one ?

Thanks a lot.

bible_pay

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Quote from: seeksilence1 on February 11, 2019, 09:55:06 AM

Is PODC already retired? Now how to start mining using POG? Any instructions? Thanks.

No, we still have the 1mil~ per day PODC live.
We are going to vote on it around block 107,000.

Pog is currently paying just 3.5% of the budget.

Getting started guide:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Proof-of-Giving-for-Beginners

seeksilence1

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Is PODC already retired? Now how to start mining using POG? Any instructions? Thanks.

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Quote from: dave_bbp on February 11, 2019, 07:47:18 AM

To be honest I still don't understand how exactly the tithing works. I have tithe=1 in my config and my wallet occasionally sends out some BBP. By now I also appear in the leaderboard and I even received tithes already. However my "titheinfo" still shows 0 for all numbers:

Code:

"24_hour_tithes": 79488.39999999999,
  "pog_difficulty": 102758.9892453088,
  "min_coin_age": 60,
  "min_coin_amt": 25000,
  "max_tithe_amount": 1,
  "Tithable_Coin_Quantity": 0,
  "Tithable_Largest_Coin": 0,
  "Tithable_Coin_Avg_Age": 0,
  "Tithable_Total_Coin_Balance": 0,
  "Tithability_Amount": 0,
  "Tithability_Summary": "NO",
  "Tithe_Cap": 50694,
  "Daily_Miner_Emissions": 94628,
  "Pool_Emissions": 75702.40000000001,
  "Lowest_ROI%": 16.5,
  "Highest_ROI%": -2.5

Also, why is "highest ROI" a negative number? (win x64 wallet 1187)

So we are waiting for some more people to upgrade to 1187 (see exec versionreport). Once we have about 51% on 1187, you should no longer see this situation, as 1187 has a leisure feature that will actively reject the tithes that are too high (the sender of the tithe will not lose the money, they will get the transaction cancelled) and this should technically keep our POG pool within its bounds until the mandatory phase starts.

Once that starts we should see a lower average difficulty but every participant network wide should be in (thats what I would personally really like to see as I realized, in order to track mass participants we need all of them in the pool).

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Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 09:02:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 05:00:49 AM

Dear,
after install wallet 1.1.8.5 my balance go down from 203.000 ti 4.000 ( more or less ).I really don't understand whatz appened.
Now I install a new wallet on main pc with the wallet.dat backup stop at 31/1/2019 date where the balance is right.

I'm really don't know what appened, I still waiting the connection to peer network because no connection with source...

Thanks for any help or suggestion.

Cheers
Ale

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7nmvm8/how_to_update_clean_wallets/

It is slightly possible (without knowing you specifics) that you mined on a fork. But if you had a greater than 4000 balance for some time, that is unlikely. Follow the steps on the "cleaning" guide and you should get things back on track. I have seen a specific case where the steps had to be followed twice to achieve the results.

Thanks a lot.
But...Already done that... right now there aren't any source block available... So no connection at all

Please ensure your clock is correct within 2 seconds, your timezone is correct, delete banlist.dat, restart, and if you dont find a node within 5 mins:
addnode 45.32.201.137 onetry

shorty34

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Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 09:02:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 05:00:49 AM

Dear,
after install wallet 1.1.8.5 my balance go down from 203.000 ti 4.000 ( more or less ).I really don't understand whatz appened.
Now I install a new wallet on main pc with the wallet.dat backup stop at 31/1/2019 date where the balance is right.

I'm really don't know what appened, I still waiting the connection to peer network because no connection with source...

Thanks for any help or suggestion.

Cheers
Ale

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7nmvm8/how_to_update_clean_wallets/

It is slightly possible (without knowing you specifics) that you mined on a fork. But if you had a greater than 4000 balance for some time, that is unlikely. Follow the steps on the "cleaning" guide and you should get things back on track. I have seen a specific case where the steps had to be followed twice to achieve the results.

Thanks a lot.
But...Already done that... right now there aren't any source block available... So no connection at all

Could you please add these lines to your biblepay.conf file and restart your wallet?

addnode=209.250.243.91
addnode=8.6.193.83

lalexcross

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Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 05:00:49 AM

Dear,
after install wallet 1.1.8.5 my balance go down from 203.000 ti 4.000 ( more or less ).I really don't understand whatz appened.
Now I install a new wallet on main pc with the wallet.dat backup stop at 31/1/2019 date where the balance is right.

I'm really don't know what appened, I still waiting the connection to peer network because no connection with source...

Thanks for any help or suggestion.

Cheers
Ale

https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7nmvm8/how_to_update_clean_wallets/

It is slightly possible (without knowing you specifics) that you mined on a fork. But if you had a greater than 4000 balance for some time, that is unlikely. Follow the steps on the "cleaning" guide and you should get things back on track. I have seen a specific case where the steps had to be followed twice to achieve the results.

Thanks a lot.
But...Already done that... right now there aren't any source block available... So no connection at all

dave_bbp

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To be honest I still don't understand how exactly the tithing works. I have tithe=1 in my config and my wallet occasionally sends out some BBP. By now I also appear in the leaderboard and I even received tithes already. However my "titheinfo" still shows 0 for all numbers:

Code:

"24_hour_tithes": 79488.39999999999,
  "pog_difficulty": 102758.9892453088,
  "min_coin_age": 60,
  "min_coin_amt": 25000,
  "max_tithe_amount": 1,
  "Tithable_Coin_Quantity": 0,
  "Tithable_Largest_Coin": 0,
  "Tithable_Coin_Avg_Age": 0,
  "Tithable_Total_Coin_Balance": 0,
  "Tithability_Amount": 0,
  "Tithability_Summary": "NO",
  "Tithe_Cap": 50694,
  "Daily_Miner_Emissions": 94628,
  "Pool_Emissions": 75702.40000000001,
  "Lowest_ROI%": 16.5,
  "Highest_ROI%": -2.5

Also, why is "highest ROI" a negative number? (win x64 wallet 1187)

lalexcross

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Quote from: lalexcross on February 11, 2019, 05:00:49 AM

Dear,
after install wallet 1.1.8.5 my balance go down from 203.000 ti 4.000 ( more or less ).I really don't understand whatz appened.
Now I install a new wallet on main pc with the wallet.dat backup stop at 31/1/2019 date where the balance is right.

I'm really don't know what appened, I still waiting the connection to peer network because no connection with source...

Thanks for any help or suggestion.

Cheers
Ale

This is my config

addnode=node.biblepay.org

gen=1

utxooverride=-1

tithe=1

genproclimit=6

minersleep=0

pool=https://pool.purepool.org

workerid=************************

lalexcross

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Dear,
after install wallet 1.1.8.5 my balance go down from 203.000 ti 4.000 ( more or less ).I really don't understand whatz appened.
Now I install a new wallet on main pc with the wallet.dat backup stop at 31/1/2019 date where the balance is right.

I'm really don't know what appened, I still waiting the connection to peer network because no connection with source...

Thanks for any help or suggestion.

Cheers
Ale

MIP

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Quote from: bible_pay on February 10, 2019, 06:24:09 PM

BiblePay - 1.1.8.7 - Mandatory Upgrade
For entire network before block 102,025

- Fix bug in POG mining algorithm causing too many tithes to enter the
pog pool per day
- During block heights 100,775-102,024 BiblePay corrects most of the
overflow effects as a temporary leisure fix
- After block 102,025 (the mandatory deadline cutover height) Biblepay
upgrades POG to v2.0; this allows thousands of tithes into the pog pool
per day and corrects the algorithm from overflow effects and prevents
attacks
- Fix POW difficulty value for POBH in getinfo
- Make POG leaderboard sort by share % descending
- Allow tithe=n (allow any value including 2; 0=off, 1=default, 2-up =
minutes between tithing)
- Increased PODC vote height to 107,000 (when we vote to retire PODC)

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/commit/52b3fe81ca2ada664d815f21d090aa7ac12b5448

Available for MacOS. Ubuntu PPAs are currently building
(it will take 2-4 hours)

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Quote from: sunk818 on February 10, 2019, 09:43:10 PM

Quote from: bible_pay on February 10, 2019, 08:16:36 PM

- Tithing wont be spammy, it will be about 3* more frequent as it is now, but this "assumption" of spammy is not correct to begin with, as difficulty will settle in a dynamic fashion

I think 3x more qualifies as spammy. If we have more participants, shouldn't the PoG difficulty adjust the max tithe down? I don't understand why you're having to put out a mandatory now to address an issue, that's not fully observed. Maybe it was a mistake to put [Pog Tithe?] checkbox. Perhaps removing that and exec tithe from debug console can prevent the repeated tithing. And really the only two things we can adjust is:

tithe=1 (or whatever other value we want)

and

nickname

That would remove the spamming, although I realize it wouldn't necessarily prevent someone from using 1185 or 1186 w/o a mandatory.

Its not spammy, because a few extra tithes per participant per period does not qualify as spammy, nor does it exceed what PODCupdates do (in terms of spam), nor does this assumption take into account how the efficiency of POG causes the participant to slow their tithing while difficulty settles in on a certain range as coin-age is spent. (Bitcoin deals with 32,000 transactions in single blocks while we deal with 10-20, its not really realistic to call POG spammy, especially with PODC being retired).

The Pog Tithe checkbox just gives a person an additional way to tithe, but this probably only accounts for 10% of the tithes (I assume 90% would be done by the miner).

We need a mandatory, regardless of this issue, as V2 is a needed improvement to have a professional product. I want to see more than 1000 users in the leaderboard after V2.

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Quote from: bible_pay on February 10, 2019, 08:16:36 PM

- Tithing wont be spammy, it will be about 3* more frequent as it is now, but this "assumption" of spammy is not correct to begin with, as difficulty will settle in a dynamic fashion

I think 3x more qualifies as spammy. If we have more participants, shouldn't the PoG difficulty adjust the max tithe down? I don't understand why you're having to put out a mandatory now to address an issue, that's not fully observed. Maybe it was a mistake to put [Pog Tithe?] checkbox. Perhaps removing that and exec tithe from debug console can prevent the repeated tithing. And really the only two things we can adjust is:

tithe=1 (or whatever other value we want)

and

nickname

That would remove the spamming, although I realize it wouldn't necessarily prevent someone from using 1185 or 1186 w/o a mandatory.

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Quote from: macko20 on February 10, 2019, 07:25:59 PM

The last thing we need is the good lawyer service.

Masternode vote ?? There were no. Maybe it's wild west. But this is a very interesting topic. The whole subject is an interesting document. Because masternods vote when they are comfortable.

Rob, you're not dealing with children. You made yourself a testnet with bbp.

Do you want any bets? No, I do not bet with people who are jumping in panic.

It makes me laugh, but probably other people less.

Do it even pog57 version, it's just hypocrisy ...

Next mandatory enough.

Yes, we had a Sanctuary vote for every important decision.

We are 100% democratic.

I figured that was all you had with your idea about POBH! Zilch?

Your afraid to take the bet also...

Remember, I still look to God as my father, and our secret weapon is praying that POG is successful when the time is right to extend his Kingdom.
We need be Kingdom minded and glorify God, not men.

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Quote from: macko20 on February 10, 2019, 07:05:37 PM

Bbp wallet - c-cex offline, southx offline.
Slovakia 1 sato? We are going to 0 sato.

Very politely.

No problem, politeness is good.
Please take this into consideration for your spread of FUD also:
Part of our drop in price is due to unlocking of the locked up 50 mil in 20bbp-per-rac.

So enjoy the coins while they are cheap because when they are gone the price then goes up to what they are worth (in contrast to what you are saying).

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Quote from: sunk818 on February 10, 2019, 06:58:39 PM

The current system while not perfect, is self policing. pagalo, ishtosh, sakic, etc must realize they are getting an negative ROI if they submit too many tithes. I'm sure there may be others who think they can over tithe as well, but you can see things have calmed down. This makes me question if a mandatory is really necessary. Aren't mandatories every three months at most? We just had a mandatory...

In 1187, what does tithing look like. Will it be thousands of tiny donations (spammy?) clogging up the network raising bandwidth cost for everyone?

Quote from: bible_pay on February 10, 2019, 06:24:09 PM

BiblePay - 1.1.8.7 - Mandatory Upgrade
For entire network before block 102,025

- Fix bug in POG mining algorithm causing too many tithes to enter the
pog pool per day
- During block heights 100,775-102,024 BiblePay corrects most of the
overflow effects as a temporary leisure fix
- After block 102,025 (the mandatory deadline cutover height) Biblepay
upgrades POG to v2.0; this allows thousands of tithes into the pog pool
per day and corrects the algorithm from overflow effects and prevents
attacks
- Fix POW difficulty value for POBH in getinfo
- Make POG leaderboard sort by share % descending
- Allow tithe=n (allow any value including 2; 0=off, 1=default, 2-up =
minutes between tithing)
- Increased PODC vote height to 107,000 (when we vote to retire PODC)

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/commit/52b3fe81ca2ada664d815f21d090aa7ac12b5448

- Yes, a mandatory is necessary
- In POG v2.0 one person cannot over-tithe (the coin-age will be spent quicker)
- Tithing wont be spammy, it will be about 3* more frequent as it is now, but this "assumption" of spammy is not correct to begin with, as difficulty will settle in a dynamic fashion
- I don't see evidence that BBP has high bandwidth costs due to transactions yet - as a matter of fact I asked for evidence and didnt receive a baseline from any other coin
b. If I do receive a baseline, the study is not done until a report shows bytes per messagetype (so that is two steps)

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The last thing we need is the good lawyer service.

Masternode vote ?? There were no. Maybe it's wild west. But this is a very interesting topic. The whole subject is an interesting document. Because masternods vote when they are comfortable.

Rob, you're not dealing with children. You made yourself a testnet with bbp.

Do you want any bets? No, I do not bet with people who are jumping in panic.

It makes me laugh, but probably other people less.

Do it even pog57 version, it's just hypocrisy ...

Next mandatory enough.

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