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sunk818

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Quote from: totikk on September 27, 2018, 12:26:43 PM

Oh! Big thanks!
Do you know how to put in the Boinc Manager ratio 5/95. At now I have 50 / 50 between RaH and WCG

I explained before: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46154107

daemonko

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there it is, wcg rac ! big big thanks !!! it's paaarty time

totikk

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Oh! Big thanks!
Do you know how to put in the Boinc Manager ratio 5/95. At now I have 50 / 50 between RaH and WCG

slovakia

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any echo to LICHTSUCHER?

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Quote from: totikk on September 27, 2018, 12:13:51 PM

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In your case, I don't see you in any PODC superblock ever, are you sure your WCG team is set to BiblePay?

You are not in the superblock view report- are you currently crunching rosetta with active tasks?

I dont see your CPID in the R@H active cpid list.

It could be that you shut down RAH.

Does I need crunch RaH even if I want only WCG ? yes
And even in RaH may RAC will be small, reward will be send by WCGRAC, not by RaH ? reward is what big is your magnitude
So if I do: 5% RaH and 95% WCG? I can be rewarded by 95% WCGRAC ? RAH+WCG=RAC=magnitude=rewards

slovakia

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bible_pay good job...all fixed Wink

totikk

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In your case, I don't see you in any PODC superblock ever, are you sure your WCG team is set to BiblePay?

You are not in the superblock view report- are you currently crunching rosetta with active tasks?

I dont see your CPID in the R@H active cpid list.

It could be that you shut down RAH.

Does I need crunch RaH even if I want only WCG ?
And even in RaH may RAC will be small, reward will be send by WCGRAC, not by RaH ?
So if I do: 5% RaH and 95% WCG? I can be rewarded by 95% WCGRAC ?

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Quote from: coinsinspect on September 27, 2018, 11:46:00 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:57:43 AM

For now, please add 'utxooverride=1500000' and resend a podc update.

Now getboincinfo shows WCG correctly.

I am running wallet version 1145

Should I upgrade and remove utxooverride=1500000 ?

Yes, please upgrade, then comment or remove the utxooveride (I comment by putting an x in front of the key), then run, then:

Then please try 'exec podcupdate true' and lets see if it sends the right amount.

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Quote from: slovakia on September 27, 2018, 11:36:54 AM

and here is mine, my utxo is very low,but in wallet is almost 5M bbp

this is last PODC update

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Status: 26 confirmations
Date: 27. 9. 2018 15:44
Total debit: -218 500.00000000 Biblepay
Total credit: 218 500.00000000 Biblepay
Transaction fee: -0.00019040 Biblepay
Net amount: -0.00019040 Biblepay

Height: 73493
Difficulty: 1927.055241
Time: 09-27-2018 13:48:37
Subsidy: 493.7724

PODC_UPDATE:

Transaction ID: 19f4c0175b7064689d8ac545e00624524f363bd786183d5cd88e6318fbe35d88-000

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{
  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46",
  "Address": "BEaJRPoHfQsu6i8sxAtNApiaYg7eXmBS1M",
  "CPIDS": "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 427233,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 73605,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 1093468,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_ADDRESS": "BEaJRPoHfQsu6i8sxAtNApiaYg7eXmBS1M",
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_RAC": 9931.860000000001,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_TEAM": 15044,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_WCGRAC": 0,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_TaskWeight": 100,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_UTXOWeight": 221643,
  "Total_RAC": 9931.860000000001,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 42564,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 281981,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 1093468,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 7654276,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock List": "73400,73195,72990,72785,72580,72375,72170,71965",
  "Last Superblock Height": 73400,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1093468,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 42564,
  "Magnitude (One-Day)": 38.92569329875223,
  "Magnitude (One-Week)": 36.83966974799446

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15:45:54

exec totalrac

15:45:57

{
  "Command": "totalrac",
  "Total RAC": 9931.860000000001,
  "UTXO Target": 218500.92,
  "StakeBalance": 4858748,
  "Threshhold to receive 10% rewards (below this UTXO Amount rewards are lost)": 7945.49,
  "Stake Level Required For 10% Level": 8144.13,
  "Stake Level Required For 20% Level": 19863.72,
  "Stake Level Required For 30% Level": 39727.44,
  "Stake Level Required For 40% Level": 59591.16,
  "Stake Level Required For 50% Level": 79454.88,
  "Stake Level Required For 60% Level": 99318.60000000001,
  "Stake Level Required For 70% Level": 119182.32,
  "Stake Level Required For 80% Level": 139046.04,
  "Stake Level Required For 90% Level": 158909.76,
  "Stake Level Required For 100% Level": 178773.48,
  "Total Team RAC": 5248701
}

all my MN updated to 1156

thx

last 4months without problem

now i have 5M BBP in my wallet and i dont have this coins in my wallet .... its funny

It turns out the lions shares of these problems is it wasn't calculating the total WCGRAC into the assessment for the PODC update.

Please upgrade to the latest wallet version and retry a podcupdate (exec podcupdate true) - see if it sends the right amount now.

Im upgrading the pool and sanc1 now, so we can see users with 0 UTXOweight in the Pool Superblock view report.

coinsinspect

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Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:57:43 AM

For now, please add 'utxooverride=1500000' and resend a podc update.

Now getboincinfo shows WCG correctly.

I am running wallet version 1145

Should I upgrade and remove utxooverride=1500000 ?

slovakia

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and here is mine, my utxo is very low,but in wallet is almost 5M bbp

this is last PODC update

Quote

Status: 26 confirmations
Date: 27. 9. 2018 15:44
Total debit: -218 500.00000000 Biblepay
Total credit: 218 500.00000000 Biblepay
Transaction fee: -0.00019040 Biblepay
Net amount: -0.00019040 Biblepay

Height: 73493
Difficulty: 1927.055241
Time: 09-27-2018 13:48:37
Subsidy: 493.7724

PODC_UPDATE:

Transaction ID: 19f4c0175b7064689d8ac545e00624524f363bd786183d5cd88e6318fbe35d88-000

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{
  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46",
  "Address": "BEaJRPoHfQsu6i8sxAtNApiaYg7eXmBS1M",
  "CPIDS": "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 427233,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 73605,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 1093468,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_ADDRESS": "BEaJRPoHfQsu6i8sxAtNApiaYg7eXmBS1M",
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_RAC": 9931.860000000001,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_TEAM": 15044,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_WCGRAC": 0,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_TaskWeight": 100,
  "dde30f3ef57ed2df69ecbc687db75e46_UTXOWeight": 221643,
  "Total_RAC": 9931.860000000001,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 42564,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 281981,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 1093468,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 7654276,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock List": "73400,73195,72990,72785,72580,72375,72170,71965",
  "Last Superblock Height": 73400,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1093468,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 42564,
  "Magnitude (One-Day)": 38.92569329875223,
  "Magnitude (One-Week)": 36.83966974799446

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15:45:54

exec totalrac

15:45:57

{
  "Command": "totalrac",
  "Total RAC": 9931.860000000001,
  "UTXO Target": 218500.92,
  "StakeBalance": 4858748,
  "Threshhold to receive 10% rewards (below this UTXO Amount rewards are lost)": 7945.49,
  "Stake Level Required For 10% Level": 8144.13,
  "Stake Level Required For 20% Level": 19863.72,
  "Stake Level Required For 30% Level": 39727.44,
  "Stake Level Required For 40% Level": 59591.16,
  "Stake Level Required For 50% Level": 79454.88,
  "Stake Level Required For 60% Level": 99318.60000000001,
  "Stake Level Required For 70% Level": 119182.32,
  "Stake Level Required For 80% Level": 139046.04,
  "Stake Level Required For 90% Level": 158909.76,
  "Stake Level Required For 100% Level": 178773.48,
  "Total Team RAC": 5248701
}

all my MN updated to 1156

thx

last 4months without problem

now i have 5M BBP in my wallet and i dont have this coins in my wallet .... its funny... interesting is that 5.8M arbitrarily left

bible_pay

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Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 11:04:57 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:59:47 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:53:53 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:14:48 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:09:14 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 26, 2018, 11:36:29 PM

sorry, it didn't help, i see wcg rac = 0

In your case the problem is you havent sent UTXOs in 3 days:

exec utxoreport 183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704

We require a UTXO to receive > 0 in PODC.

ok, and what has to be done in this case? yesterday i had 4 podc updates.

i just do not get it at all. cpids are in sync, gen=1, rosetta and wcg tasks are being sent, podc updates are there, what ELSE should be done? no troubleshooting, no guides, lost 100K already...

"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_RAC": 869.4400000000001,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TEAM": 15044,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_WCGRAC": 0,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TaskWeight": 100,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_UTXOWeight": 19438,
"Total_RAC": 869.4400000000001,

We have conflicting info - the utxo report shows you did not send PODC updates in 3 days.

So please, just double click on your last podc update (yesterdays would be best), copy the txid for me and the amount and paste here..

Thanks.

Status: 336 confirmations
Date: 26.9.2018 03:06
Total debit: -4 184 249.00000000 Biblepay
Total credit: 4 184 249.00000000 Biblepay
Transaction fee: -0.00016440 Biblepay
Net amount: -0.00016440 Biblepay

PODC_UPDATE:

Transaction ID: a8419e963b70757b5d6935d1b47859f5c3db9503eeb3fa5438686b781fe3e97c-000

I see you now - not sure where I got your CPID from the last check, but it was missing a digit (not sure how that can happen), anyway now I have your CPID, and I do see you have been sending your PODC updates (avg 19500 per PODC update).

So the actual reason you are having trouble, is your PODC utxo amount is not enough.

018-09-27 15:42:36 Non-Included CPID 183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704 , RosettaRAC 873.132300, WCGRAC 211410.671850, UTXO Weight 0.000000, Task Weight 0.000000, TotalRAC 5247228.105000

You have 873 rosettarac, 211,410 WCGRAC. That means you need a UTXO of 4,245,640.
So for now just do a 'utxooverride=4500000' and send another podc update and you will be in the superblock.

Im still researching if the latest wallet version should have sent an automatic 4.5 MIL, and why you are sending automatic 19.5k.

daemonko

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Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:59:47 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:53:53 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:14:48 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:09:14 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 26, 2018, 11:36:29 PM

sorry, it didn't help, i see wcg rac = 0

In your case the problem is you havent sent UTXOs in 3 days:

exec utxoreport 183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704

We require a UTXO to receive > 0 in PODC.

ok, and what has to be done in this case? yesterday i had 4 podc updates.

i just do not get it at all. cpids are in sync, gen=1, rosetta and wcg tasks are being sent, podc updates are there, what ELSE should be done? no troubleshooting, no guides, lost 100K already...

"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_RAC": 869.4400000000001,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TEAM": 15044,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_WCGRAC": 0,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TaskWeight": 100,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_UTXOWeight": 19438,
"Total_RAC": 869.4400000000001,

We have conflicting info - the utxo report shows you did not send PODC updates in 3 days.

So please, just double click on your last podc update (yesterdays would be best), copy the txid for me and the amount and paste here..

Thanks.

Status: 336 confirmations
Date: 26.9.2018 03:06
Total debit: -4 184 249.00000000 Biblepay
Total credit: 4 184 249.00000000 Biblepay
Transaction fee: -0.00016440 Biblepay
Net amount: -0.00016440 Biblepay

PODC_UPDATE:

Transaction ID: a8419e963b70757b5d6935d1b47859f5c3db9503eeb3fa5438686b781fe3e97c-000

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Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:53:53 AM

i just do not get it at all. cpids are in sync, gen=1, rosetta and wcg tasks are being sent, podc updates are there, what ELSE should be done? no troubleshooting, no guides, lost 100K already...

  "183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_RAC": 869.4400000000001,
  "183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TEAM": 15044,
  "183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_WCGRAC": 0,
  "183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TaskWeight": 100,
  "183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_UTXOWeight": 19438,
  "Total_RAC": 869.4400000000001,

I show you are getting paid BBP every day. What's the problem?

Latest release fixes WCGRAC 0 issue. So, download and use latest wallet.

You have been getting paid correctly. RAC is 869 does not give 20k BBP, so it is including your WCG RAC.

https://www.biblepay-central.org/en/podc/user/1987717/

https://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=userbycpid&cpid=183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704

https://explorer.biblepay-central.org/address/BQmqNxXhEJ9rWGo4isynCpyNFHdKBL2Bzu

27th Sep 2018 04:59:21 a1a26563d77b436038c895e28585fb9b44810a90b334ffd27eedac8a786d8e48 + 24627.84000000
26th Sep 2018 05:29:41 7b92998ef345523687ea2b144967860f879d9058ca42a5cf756a6253fb6708d6 + 22671.76000000

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Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:53:53 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:14:48 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:09:14 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 26, 2018, 11:36:29 PM

sorry, it didn't help, i see wcg rac = 0

In your case the problem is you havent sent UTXOs in 3 days:

exec utxoreport 183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704

We require a UTXO to receive > 0 in PODC.

ok, and what has to be done in this case? yesterday i had 4 podc updates.

i just do not get it at all. cpids are in sync, gen=1, rosetta and wcg tasks are being sent, podc updates are there, what ELSE should be done? no troubleshooting, no guides, lost 100K already...

"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_RAC": 869.4400000000001,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TEAM": 15044,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_WCGRAC": 0,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TaskWeight": 100,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_UTXOWeight": 19438,
"Total_RAC": 869.4400000000001,

We have conflicting info - the utxo report shows you did not send PODC updates in 3 days.

So please, just double click on your last podc update (yesterdays would be best), copy the txid for me and the amount and paste here..

Thanks.

bible_pay

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Quote from: coinsinspect on September 27, 2018, 12:07:30 AM

Quote from: totikk on September 26, 2018, 11:47:53 PM

Yes, me too!

WCG is still zero here also

So yes, I think your case illustrates that we had 2 concurrent problems making this sort of complicated, but now its clear.
For your cpid coininspect, you have 181 RAC in rosetta, but 67015 rac in Wcg. The wallet sent out a few 4500~ bbp UTXOs over the last few days for you.
Your cpid is not in the superblock. This is because with a requirement of 20bbp per mag, you really need a utxo of 1,343,920 to have the actual required utxo to be in the superblock.

The biggest issue I see is whatever version of wallet you are running, (probably pre 1.1.5.0) still assesses your required UTXO level based on RAH only.

For now, please add 'utxooverride=1500000' and resend a podc update.

Ill take a look at the latest version to see if we ever fixed this! Maybe we never fixed this PODC utxo assessment amount, checking....

daemonko

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Quote from: daemonko on September 27, 2018, 10:14:48 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:09:14 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 26, 2018, 11:36:29 PM

sorry, it didn't help, i see wcg rac = 0

In your case the problem is you havent sent UTXOs in 3 days:

exec utxoreport 183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704

We require a UTXO to receive > 0 in PODC.

ok, and what has to be done in this case? yesterday i had 4 podc updates.

i just do not get it at all. cpids are in sync, gen=1, rosetta and wcg tasks are being sent, podc updates are there, what ELSE should be done? no troubleshooting, no guides, lost 100K already...

"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_RAC": 869.4400000000001,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TEAM": 15044,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_WCGRAC": 0,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_TaskWeight": 100,
"183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704_UTXOWeight": 19438,
"Total_RAC": 869.4400000000001,

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Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 10:09:14 AM

Quote from: daemonko on September 26, 2018, 11:36:29 PM

sorry, it didn't help, i see wcg rac = 0

In your case the problem is you havent sent UTXOs in 3 days:

exec utxoreport 183b46bd8c5bd5ce00e5b4cf8b079704

We require a UTXO to receive > 0 in PODC.

ok, and what has to be done in this case? yesterday i had 4 podc updates.

bible_pay

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Quote from: totikk on September 26, 2018, 11:47:53 PM

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sorry, it didn't help, i see wcg rac = 0

Yes, me too!

Code:


07:45:55

exec getboincinfo


07:46:00

{
  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8",
  "Address": "BHfGTogcn36yUY4VH5uEnd1ocT3oXWZnt7",
  "CPIDS": "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 427228,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 73605,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 1093468,
  "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_ADDRESS": "BHfGTogcn36yUY4VH5uEnd1ocT3oXWZnt7",
  "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_RAC": 305.9,
  "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_TEAM": 15044,
  "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_WCGRAC": 0,
  "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_TaskWeight": 100,
  "8207d91142045cb6d7a81b8e91d264a8_UTXOWeight": 1000,
  "Total_RAC": 305.9,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 0,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 0,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 1093468,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 7654276,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 8,
  "Superblock List": "73400,73195,72990,72785,72580,72375,72170,71965",
  "Last Superblock Height": 73400,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1093468,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 0,
  "Magnitude (One-Day)": 0,
  "Magnitude (One-Week)": 0
}

In your case, I don't see you in any PODC superblock ever, are you sure your WCG team is set to BiblePay?

You are not in the superblock view report- are you currently crunching rosetta with active tasks?

I dont see your CPID in the R@H active cpid list.

It could be that you shut down RAH.

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Quote from: bible_pay on September 27, 2018, 09:45:06 AM

It's a real pity that some people regard in-wallet prayers as a joke. Those people are not God fearing - and will be held accountable by Jesus on judgement day for how many prayers were impeded.

This is of course going to cause BiblePay to disable the in-wallet prayer feature for the general public. We will need to re-invent it to vet prayers before they become public.

If I may, some ideas:

1) Have a vote up/down on prayers. That affects how much rotation a prayer receives. If it goes above a certain number (like 3 net down votes), hide the prayer.

2) The other idea was the ability to reply to prayers. This means the requestor has to sign their prayer. Less anonymity, but at least you sort of know who is posting the joke prayers.

The other reason is it'd be nice to reply to prayers and prayer for other people. They can receive prayers in their qt wallet. I'm not sure if these prayer replies go on the blockchain (maybe just broadcasts?) but there'd be a use case where Christians not savvy about tech who could meaningfully participate. If you wanted, you could do Proof of Prayer (PoP) as another way to earn BBP.

3) You could also tie it in with orphan letter writing this way as well? Show image of child, profile, and ability to reply to orphan with a letter.

4) A general p2p messaging system within BBP would increase use of BiblePay wallet.

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