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Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 366. (Read 243454 times)

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Please keep in mind that the foremost reason Rob started BiblePay is to be able to GIVE TO CHARITY. That '10% to charity' is and will always be an essential part of BiblePay. We need to keep adding value to BiblePay to please the users, so that we can keep on giving (hopefully more and more).

Give 5% from PODC and 5% PoBH to Orphans and no monthly orphan proposal

It did make me think about the structure of 10% charity as a monthly superblock you vote on. People could vote no.

10% to charity, is in my mind, like tithing... so perhaps we can consider getting 10% from PoBH and PoDC. Instead of 38.5% PoBH and PoDC received 33.5%. Then, it really is giving 10% of your earnings to God and in this way, we are using the tithed funds for the mission of helping the poor. Right now, 10% you vote on via monthly superblock doesn't feel like a sacrifice at all... This way, the sell pressure from the monthly superblock is less of an issue.

Reduce 300 orphans to 100 orphans going forward

I really think we need to vote down the next Compassion monthly superblock and just go back to supporting 100 orphans only. We have good intentions but support 300 orphans is not sustainable long-term without heavy participation from the crypto community and daily utility from the coin. I believe we can get there, but we are not in that position yet.

You have to cut expenses because the income is not there. Even not requiring team membership is not going to attract a lot of people. GridCoin people coming over may be only for Rosetta@Home & WCG. Byteball doesn't require Team to earn ByteBall, but they are less than 1% of the WCG total rac. Compare that to BiblePay which is much harder to join. I helped with tech support on BiblePay Air Drop, so I know first hand all the questions people ask and the dozens of people I had to handhold. ByteBall you just download the app and do a few things to get recurring payment. You'd think they would have everyone on WCG participating but that's not the case... So, the removing team requirement will not be meaningful.

This mean, we still have an income problem. And the other way to attack an income problem is to reduce your expenses.
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Almost every masternode coin is exactly at the same market situation: no buy orders, no money. This is not a BBP only problem.

We must keep on working and make a difference when the tide turns.

Amen.

Btw, I put a command in the next version to help us diagnose the watchdog expired payments:  masternodelist full :  it has a column at the end called IsValidForPayment (Yes/No).  I updated the spork to 0 last night, so once we upgrade, lets check it out in prod.

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Almost every masternode coin is exactly at the same market situation: no buy orders, no money. This is not a BBP only problem.

We must keep on working and make a difference when the tide turns.

I would say most alt coins are in similar situation.. except for the odd pump/dump like DOGE just had

The massive sell orders for BBP Prevent such a thing happening here.
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Almost every masternode coin is exactly at the same market situation: no buy orders, no money. This is not a BBP only problem.

We must keep on working and make a difference when the tide turns.
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words is words: business plan is business plan:
btw more ppl asked me on telegram what is ipfs,dahf and similar things.and i dont know what is it ... and more ppl looking for ORPHANS FUND WALLET ... wheres dissapeared from explorer?

thanks
I can smell Slovakia in this post.  I think he took over another account. 

Thanks for that great post Jaap.

I updated the OP with our 2 exchange changes.

Michelle has been helping with the airdrop as a new airdrop member

I don’t get the sense she is Slovakia
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words is words: business plan is business plan:
btw more ppl asked me on telegram what is ipfs,dahf and similar things.and i dont know what is it ... and more ppl looking for ORPHANS FUND WALLET ... wheres dissapeared from explorer?

thanks

hi Michelle - thanks for help on telegram.

If you go to qt wallet, you will see 10% tithe and Biblepay Foundation checkbox

YOU can send small amount like 10 bbp and see the addresses

The money in orphan get sold from bbp to btc to fiat to pay charities

You can see in accountability.biblepay.org see expense and revenue
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words is words: business plan is business plan:
btw more ppl asked me on telegram what is ipfs,dahf and similar things.and i dont know what is it ... and more ppl looking for ORPHANS FUND WALLET ... wheres dissapeared from explorer?

thanks

A business plan is nothing more than words. It's about the people behind it. If you don't trust me than that is your problem.

Jaap

This is something really true. Its about the people behind. Thats the reason why i trust in the future of bbp. Price is really not important now.
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words is words: business plan is business plan:
btw more ppl asked me on telegram what is ipfs,dahf and similar things.and i dont know what is it ... and more ppl looking for ORPHANS FUND WALLET ... wheres dissapeared from explorer?

thanks

A business plan is nothing more than words. It's about the people behind it. If you don't trust me than that is your problem.
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If anyone wants to help us test out IPFS, especially existing Sanc owners we can use your help:

https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=244.msg4199#msg4199


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words is words: business plan is business plan:
btw more ppl asked me on telegram what is ipfs,dahf and similar things.and i dont know what is it ... and more ppl looking for ORPHANS FUND WALLET ... wheres dissapeared from explorer?

thanks
I can smell Slovakia in this post.  I think he took over another account.  

Thanks for that great post Jaap.

I updated the OP with our 2 exchange changes.

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What is the minimum amount I can contribute to BiblePay? It's good to know that BiblePay helps cure disease and charity.

You can contribute any amount you like, here is a link to helpful info on our website:

https://www.biblepay.org/donate/

We would also appreciate your prayers ... and thanks for your contribution!
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What is the minimum amount I can contribute to BiblePay? It's good to know that BiblePay helps cure disease and charity.
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hmm strange volume on c-cex, there was no sell/buy orders at all but almost instantly was created volume 1.6btc... ~ 15m bbp, very strange
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words is words: business plan is business plan:
btw more ppl asked me on telegram what is ipfs,dahf and similar things.and i dont know what is it ... and more ppl looking for ORPHANS FUND WALLET ... wheres dissapeared from explorer?

thanks
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hi folks,

there is a plan when Rob decides to leave? what will be with all things, this coin has only 1 dev?
there is a plan with PR campaign,if yes,give us any business plan,without plan its only ramble
investors will be want to know this affairs


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Yes, there is a plan to have developer-redundancy. It's on the wiki:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/BiblePay_DAO

And yes, there is a plan for PR, but no, I won't reveal it at this point in time because it's preliminary as of yet. We are trying to plan a conference-call in the coming week and after that we will probably have hard deadlines that we can share with the rest of the community.

And if you think that my words are ramble, please check my history. I don't do 'ramble'.
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hi folks,

there is a plan when Rob decides to leave? what will be with all things, this coin has only 1 dev?
there is a plan with PR campaign,if yes,give us any business plan,without plan its only ramble
investors will be want to know this affairs

and pls

explain to me idiot-girl,what is IPPS and DAHF ..because its need for us,we need it or what is it. And please explain it totally simply for noobs user like me and others


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what is happening with Biblepay? Almost no buyers and new sell walls and dumps everyday. It looks like we are heading down to 1 satoshi Sad

I guess it boils down to a certain sentiment that has to be reversed in order for us to go up again. Sometimes it takes some force to reverse the inertia.

So, basically, I think that some people are scared that this project will destroy itself if it wants to keep sponsoring 300+ orphans. So people are trying to 'dump-before-the-dump' so to speak, driving the price even lower (and making it even harder to keep sponsoring 300+ orphans). We're basically in a downward spiral. because of this sentiment.

Since we are self-funding, this spiral can go both ways. If the value grows, we have more budget for stuff like PR, which enlarges the possibility of growing even more. In the past - in the midst of the bull-market - the spiral went up and everything went well, but right now, we really need to prove our value to investors to be able to keep our head above the water.

The thing is, being a self-funding crypto is kinda like a 'turbo-button' (because of the volatility). When things go up, they REALLY go up, but when things to down, the can REALLY go down.

In the midst of this, is the fact that we have certain financial obligations in the form of our sponsorships. They are in dollars (which is, in relation to crypto, relatively stable at this point in time). So our financial obligations are positioned in a different dynamic ('turbo fluctuating BBP' vs 'stable dollar').

Dash is having the same problem, only in a bigger magnitude. Take this tweet for example:
https://mobile.twitter.com/BitcoinBirch/status/1032428979133800448

It speaks of the Dash Core Group having expenses of about $500.000 each superblock. Dash has the same style of funding and government as we do, and when Dash goes below a certain price, the DCG won't be able to secure funding anymore (same as with our sponsorships), and what then?

I think that the writings were always on the wall that the market could very well turn very bad in a matter of months, and - in hindsight - we maybe put a little bit too much faith in the market keeping a positive sentiment.

But that doesn't mean we can't reverse the current sentiment. Yes, the easy solution is to drop 200 orphans and restore faith that BiblePay can keep their financial obligations without obliterating all the buy-orders (because we need to go above 10% of the generated BBP to be ably to pay Compassion). And then I guess 616's proposal of fully funding a child until his or hers 18th birthday before sponsoring a new child has some merit (although I don't know the ins and outs of this proposal), if possible, this will at least relieve us of monetary pressures and make us independent of market sentiments).

The most heartbreaking thing for me is the idea of having to drop sponsorships and to destroy hope in childrens hearts. I want every child that we sponsor to feel the certainty that they are 'saved'. We are learning what crypto can and cannot do, and we should act on our findings to build a better BiblePay.

So, please, feel free to discuss a way to minimize risks and maximize impact when it comes to our sponsorships. I personally would rather have 100 orphans we can REALLY help in our current capacity (not only in monetary terms, but also in 'adopting' them via the letter-writing system for example). If we adopt a child we need to be sure we can help them both financially and morally until they are responsible adults. If that means we need to take a step back, and reënvision the way we go about our sponsorships, then so be it.

BUT maybe we can restore faith without dropping sponsorhips just yet. Let's look at all the positive things that are taking place. Development is going full-steam, and Rob is working tirelessly and implementing code that may very well provide enormous value in the future. If the IPFS Integration goes well, we have started to build the framework upon which our DAHF can grow. If Rob pulls off the DAHF, I have no question in my mind that BiblePay will 100x (and this is what investors want to hear, right?). And I wouldn't mind AT ALL myself, haha!

Please keep in mind that the foremost reason Rob started BiblePay is to be able to GIVE TO CHARITY. That '10% to charity' is and will always be an essential part of BiblePay. We need to keep adding value to BiblePay to please the users, so that we can keep on giving (hopefully more and more).

Please be aware that - apart from development - big steps are being made to give us more exposure. We are getting really serious about our PR-efforts. We have a preliminary time-line set-up which focuses on regrouping our efforts and getting well-written articles out to media-outlets about our developments. This time-line stretches out until the beginning of 2019, where we will reevaluate the impact of our efforts.

From here on, it's all about gaining enough momentum to reverse the inertia, and to curve this downward spiral into an upward one once again.

And this is not just about the 'team' doing stuff, this is about proving to the world that we really are a community that wants to do some good.
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what is happening with Biblepay? Almost no buyers and new sell walls and dumps everyday. It looks like we are heading down to 1 satoshi Sad
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Please provide one watchdog expired masternode who is in the upcoming masternode winners list.

Looking at the code, we are no longer voting for those masternodes.



At this very moment (block #68247):

Block 68247: BTFT5kkUDwDg7KWpd7snL1BZAN5KgemRsN
Block 68256: B7SvqHBccPR8iYTq8rbjzpEqiGFnAT8hGg
Block 68257: BQ1QoPAtgEoZRkDv8s5Jf4qnCoWLwgspH1

All these are seen as WATCHDOG_EXPIRED in Biblepay-Central.
However in my desktop wallet they appear as NEW_START_REQUIRED.

This could be some delay or glitch in biblepaycentral monitoring.


Ok thanks, that gives me something to look at.

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