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Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 365. (Read 243454 times)

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Rob I smell hints of Slovakia too, wouldnt be first time he impersonated as a woman Kiss (Rene on Facebook)
Yeah, after that nice post from Jaap, (s)he just basically crapped on him, which is also Slovakia like.  I have a strange impression it might be Slovakia selling out on c-cex but I could be wrong.  

i spoke with him often and he is not selling on ccex (or any other exchange), this must be someone else
just check his account Smiley or check all accounts and maybe you will find who is selling milions of bbp Smiley
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- Proposal: Removing BOINC Team Requirement
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- Watchman Requirement Enabled for Masternodes
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- C-CEX Exchange Fully Enabled, Back from Vacation
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Rob I smell hints of Slovakia too, wouldnt be first time he impersonated as a woman Kiss (Rene on Facebook)
Yeah, after that nice post from Jaap, (s)he just basically crapped on him, which is also Slovakia like.  I have a strange impression it might be Slovakia selling out on c-cex but I could be wrong.  
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Rob I smell hints of Slovakia too, wouldnt be first time he impersonated as a woman Kiss (Rene on Facebook)
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We're finally getting some volume...

Downside is it's pushing the price lower, not the impact I was hoping C-CEX was going to give Smiley
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C-CEX is fully enabled now! they are back from vacation!

https://twitter.com/CryptoCurrEncyX/status/1035665840694341637

https://c-cex.com/?p=bbp-btc

C-CEX was BiblePay's 1st exchange, we were listed on August 8th 2017
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.20722608
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I do think we should definitely keep on giving BBP from the superblock via the DAO. The idea is to leave the decision on 'who gets what' to the Sanctuaries, and thus decentralizing it.

Good point, I hadn't considered the automation of voting yes/no on different proposals that fund different charities. Some charities have different fiat, so the monthly superblock voting is better then.

ah soo, i dont know this, hmm
and what about creating some donation web (not in bbp, but in btc, or both or other currencies too)?maybe we can cover some part with donations
with some hall of fame

You can also donate BBP to the Foundation or 10% tithe to orphans... Since there's a buffer for compassion.com any extra donated just went to create a bigger buffer. So instead of easing the sell pressure, it actually increased it. So, do you sell more to create a bigger buffer, or sell exactly what you need to meet this month's commitment? If you create a buffer, should you create a buffer slowly or just donate every received BBP for orphans immediately?

Just in case anyone is confused - to get a masternode, you just need 1,550,001 BBP and it's easy enough to get a $5/month virtual server to host it on. You get WAY more than that in returns. No need to buy hardware or anything that someone could "dump ... in a cellophane bag". Just check the sanctuary creation page on the wiki.

1.55M BBP is about ~$1,000 USD right now. I can also host VPS for $1/mo. Look on lowendbox or lowendtalk/offers . If anyone needs a specific recommendation, DM and I'll send you a list that I've personally used or currently using.
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Seeing some great prices today for buying. Someone is selling low; join me in taking advantage - no better time to ger a new masternode or two Smiley
 

I think dash clowns will envy the size of infrastructure u have built here. How many busternodes ur own, 60. And Im adding another 60 to double the contribution of urs. If u want to own more nodes u have to purchase them from me. Ill dump the load in a cellophane bag and order my secretary to deliver the nodes to ur doorstep in a timely fashion.

Uh...yeah. Right. That makes total sense.

Just in case anyone is confused - to get a masternode, you just need 1,550,001 BBP and it's easy enough to get a $5/month virtual server to host it on. You get WAY more than that in returns. No need to buy hardware or anything that someone could "dump ... in a cellophane bag". Just check the sanctuary creation page on the wiki.

Also, to clear up any misconceptions:
1) I do not own 60 masternodes (or busternodes, for that matter). The total masternode infrastructure currently comprises over 300 masternodes however.
2) Buying 60 (which would require ~90MM BBP, or roughly 10% of the total supply) would not double any one particular person's contribution that I'm aware of - again, not mine. I have several (more than 5, fewer than 10), but not 60.
3) It is patently false that the only way to own more nodes is to purchase them from anyone. You CAN buy the BBP in an exchange, or off exchange if you prefer, but you can also just do PODC contributions or letter writing and save up the BBP until you can get your own.
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Seeing some great prices today for buying. Someone is selling low; join me in taking advantage - no better time to ger a new masternode or two Smiley
 

I think dash clowns will envy the size of infrastructure u have built here. How many busternodes u own, 60. And Im adding another 60 to double the contribution of urs. If u want to own more nodes u have to purchase them from me. Ill dump the load in a cellophane bag and order my secretary to deliver the nodes to ur doorstep in a timely fashion.
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The actual price is too small for such a coin
great oportunity to buy Smiley
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The actual price is too small for such a coin
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Seeing some great prices today for buying. Someone is selling low; join me in taking advantage - no better time to ger a new masternode or two Smiley
 
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The cost per child per month is fixed (38 dollars per child per month if I'm not mistaken). So it's kinda 'all or nothing' per child.


ah soo, i dont know this, hmm
and what about creating some donation web (not in bbp, but in btc, or both or other currencies too)?maybe we can cover some part with donations
with some hall of fame

Sure, if you want to try and set this up, I can provide you with a BTC donation address for the Charity Foundation Smiley

We already have a donation page btw:
https://www.biblepay.org/donate/

There isn't a BTC-address on there right now to minimize risk (e.g. hackers compromising the website and replacing the address), but technically you can already donate BTC. No FIAT.
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The cost per child per month is fixed (38 dollars per child per month if I'm not mistaken). So it's kinda 'all or nothing' per child.


ah soo, i dont know this, hmm
and what about creating some donation web (not in bbp, but in btc, or both or other currencies too)?maybe we can cover some part with donations
with some hall of fame
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Almost every masternode coin is exactly at the same market situation: no buy orders, no money. This is not a BBP only problem.

We must keep on working and make a difference when the tide turns.

I agree Smiley Fear rules the market right now.

If we can endure this, we will only come out stronger.
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maybe we dont need to reduce number of orphans, but just reduce support per orphans
to not dump bbp, just apply some simple rule - not to sell under 10 sat or so. and if you sell only 5m then only this will go to charity and divided by 300 orphans. remainings 2m you can put as sell order and wait, or just save for 'better times' Smiley
or send remainings bbp to charity Smiley

The cost per child per month is fixed (38 dollars per child per month if I'm not mistaken). So it's kinda 'all or nothing' per child.

I also had the thought of not selling below a certain price, but in the end you also don't want to risk not selling enough.

I think we should hold on to the '10% to charity' from now on. That was how it was proposed, and that is how it should stay in my opinion. If we can't fund enough with the 10%, that is a sign for us to cut expenses (to say it businesslike). Sure, we could ask for more for one more month, but I'm not a proponent of asking more than 10% after that, and I'm not sure if that dumping more BBP will really give us more dollars in the end (because of people setting buy-orders lower when they now that a bigger dump is coming).

I do think we should definitely keep on giving BBP from the superblock via the DAO. The idea is to leave the decision on 'who gets what' to the Sanctuaries, and thus decentralizing it.
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maybe we dont need to reduce number of orphans, but just reduce support per orphans
to not dump bbp, just apply some simple rule - not to sell under 10 sat or so. and if you sell only 5m then only this will go to charity and divided by 300 orphans. remainings 2m you can put as sell order and wait, or just save for 'better times' Smiley
or send remainings bbp to charity Smiley
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3) Reducing the 300 level:  We already have a continuity plan, and that is when our buffer runs out, we automatically reduce the amount we spend at compassion.  If for example we only raise 50% of the necessary expense and we already used up our buffer, then we will atomatically drop 50% of our compassion orphans (I hope that doesnt happen).  Our system is self correcting.  Then going forward we would be funding 150, until the next drastic drop, etc.  

Yes, I believe you mentioned that. Thanks for the reminder. If 300 is sustainable, do you feel 616's suggestion of funding one poor child ("orphan") to adulthood with whatever funds are raised each month is the wise decision forward?
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Please keep in mind that the foremost reason Rob started BiblePay is to be able to GIVE TO CHARITY. That '10% to charity' is and will always be an essential part of BiblePay. We need to keep adding value to BiblePay to please the users, so that we can keep on giving (hopefully more and more).

Give 5% from PODC and 5% PoBH to Orphans and no monthly orphan proposal

It did make me think about the structure of 10% charity as a monthly superblock you vote on. People could vote no.

10% to charity, is in my mind, like tithing... so perhaps we can consider getting 10% from PoBH and PoDC. Instead of 38.5% PoBH and PoDC received 33.5%. Then, it really is giving 10% of your earnings to God and in this way, we are using the tithed funds for the mission of helping the poor. Right now, 10% you vote on via monthly superblock doesn't feel like a sacrifice at all... This way, the sell pressure from the monthly superblock is less of an issue.

Reduce 300 orphans to 100 orphans going forward

I really think we need to vote down the next Compassion monthly superblock and just go back to supporting 100 orphans only. We have good intentions but support 300 orphans is not sustainable long-term without heavy participation from the crypto community and daily utility from the coin. I believe we can get there, but we are not in that position yet.

You have to cut expenses because the income is not there. Even not requiring team membership is not going to attract a lot of people. GridCoin people coming over may be only for Rosetta@Home & WCG. Byteball doesn't require Team to earn ByteBall, but they are less than 1% of the WCG total rac. Compare that to BiblePay which is much harder to join. I helped with tech support on BiblePay Air Drop, so I know first hand all the questions people ask and the dozens of people I had to handhold. ByteBall you just download the app and do a few things to get recurring payment. You'd think they would have everyone on WCG participating but that's not the case... So, the removing team requirement will not be meaningful.

This mean, we still have an income problem. And the other way to attack an income problem is to reduce your expenses.

Im against these two ideas because:

1) We will be a true DAO if we continue to find high efficiency charities and vote them in as we do (with our proposal system)
2) We established a track record of 10% for charity, and its better to keep our promises over the long term
3) Reducing the 300 level:  We already have a continuity plan, and that is when our buffer runs out, we automatically reduce the amount we spend at compassion.  If for example we only raise 50% of the necessary expense and we already used up our buffer, then we will atomatically drop 50% of our compassion orphans (I hope that doesnt happen).  Our system is self correcting.  Then going forward we would be funding 150, until the next drastic drop, etc.  

I will most likely be suggesting one unusual month for compassion this month however (IE 90% of our budget to compassion), and then suggesting we go back to normal starting next month.  Another words, one big push to keep compassion and fast for our stability, and then next month, if we are still in the 10 satoshi range, we revert back to our normal size budget (IE 7 million for charity) and normal payroll, and our vendors start taking hits (based on lower liquidation amounts out of the 7 million). 

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