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Quote from: sunk818 on December 30, 2019, 10:51:13 AM

Rob, any update on accountability? accountability.biblepay.org has been missing details after Sep 2019 for revenue & expense.

How do we track how much BBP was donated to charities and the the price of USD (roughly) at the time BBP was given to these charities?

Let me take a look at this problem. All the data is present in the chain, but not consolidated correctly.

MIP

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Quote from: sunk818 on December 31, 2019, 10:51:33 AM

Wasn't this supposed to be a feature back when the Proof of Giving (PoG) GSC was active? Now that PoG is gone, what is the relevant use case for the feature today?

It's not the GSC Tithe feature, but just a list of charities (downloaded from biblepay.org API) you can send tithes to (manually)

BTW, I just sent the iOS version to App Store, it will take like 24/48h to be approved.

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Quote from: bible_pay on December 28, 2019, 10:16:24 AM

Quote from: MIP on December 28, 2019, 04:21:39 AM

Android mobile wallet version 1.4.8.5

- added new tithe feature screen

iOS version will come in a few days

Oh wow, this is awesome, we always wanted to be able to tithe to churches from the mobile (even though we have no official partners yet, who are churches).

Quote from: MIP on December 28, 2019, 04:21:39 AM

Android mobile wallet version 1.4.8.5

- added new tithe feature screen

iOS version will come in a few days

Wasn't this supposed to be a feature back when the Proof of Giving (PoG) GSC was active? Now that PoG is gone, what is the relevant use case for the feature today?

sunk818

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julius003 from discord is wondering why his payment is low for WCG.
his points for sentgsc is increasing along with coinage. its been three days since s/he started podc 2.0
payment should be closer to 300 BBP I thought.
s/he is on team biblepay.
verified s/he has funds in the cpk address.

"ALL: BQQehv2HhH7LB4Gh7t7ged4SUefZQCX7sG [julius003], Pts: 149.00, Reward: 106.560": "0.010%",

07:19:09

exec sentgsc BQQehv2HhH7LB4Gh7t7ged4SUefZQCX7sG

07:19:11

{
  "1d1a0773d7988bfa467daaa8d9bce0fc1638248c2617ea34354970a5a5b6c0ee": "Points: 3647, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 3647, Donation: 0.00, Height: 166565, Date: 12-30-2019 01:31:52",
  "b94b7c7789655582c2786004c8c35a4e6ddbf57b4c5a99442af4e3d34cb4ad57": "Points: 4055, Campaign: WCG, CoinAge: 4055, Donation: 0.00, Height: 166769, Date: 12-31-2019 01:55:26",
  "Total": 7702.040497449017
}

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Bitcointalk - Altcoin Mining - Best CPU Mineable Coins in 2019 and CPU Mining Guides
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53449594

World Community Grid Forum:
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/forums/wcg/viewthread_thread,41236

BOINC Forum:
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=13351#94603

BOINC Reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BOINC/comments/ehtl2a/biblepay_bbp_rewards_coins_to_world_community/
UPDATE: "Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/BOINC"

If there are other places we should post, let me know!

Please comment and upvote!

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Quote from: dave_bbp on December 30, 2019, 04:45:26 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: MIP on December 29, 2019, 12:57:03 PM

It seems SouthXchange added a 9th decimal to all its BTC markets.

So we can now trade BBP with a finer grain spread.

Great news, thank you for sharing!

How is this great news? In the current bear market the only thing this means is that all the already-dumped coins that were formerly "negatively capped" at 1 sat are now gonna be dumped even further to 1/10th of a satoshi. This includes especially masternode coins and unfortunately also BBP (unless we can pursuate people to buy-and-keep BBP). Cry

If anything is shows the true liquidity of an altcoin. I don't think its a bad thing. Let the market decide. It could give some interested parties a low investment point to buy. It's cool to think that 2 BTC is all takes to get you to 166M BBP and be top 1 in the rich list: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bbp/#!rich

This coin is not abandoned nor lacks development. I think the niche is tough (Christian values cryptocurrency with sell pressure due to 10% monthly donation) and deeply conflated by crypto winter prices.

capulo

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have some questions:
auto sendgscc is sent only at this height? "next_podc_gsc_transmission": 166767
so if i have wallet off and stat it later, it is not send?
it looks like this

second: i did some manual sents because of previous
tx id cfb2e2bf3ba18efbb07e9a1bb9e7c1549519b479e12bd445a3bd6f727df03146
but then i leave wallet online and autosenddid c8cf23f5e888ebe9628768fef5130ff51ee525422ff0f561099a793d5dccb175
it sent almost nothing, so when previous tx expired i disappeared from leaderboard
is this ok?

third:
can i set somehow that sendgscc will be send more times per day or send with specific amount at autosend height?

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: MIP on December 29, 2019, 12:57:03 PM

It seems SouthXchange added a 9th decimal to all its BTC markets.

So we can now trade BBP with a finer grain spread.

Great news, thank you for sharing!

How is this great news? In the current bear market the only thing this means is that all the already-dumped coins that were formerly "negatively capped" at 1 sat are now gonna be dumped even further to 1/10th of a satoshi. This includes especially masternode coins and unfortunately also BBP (unless we can pursuate people to buy-and-keep BBP). Cry

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Announcing the Release of Dash Platform on Evonet
https://blog.dash.org/announcing-the-release-of-dash-platform-on-evonet-c5a94dee0e59

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Quote from: bible_pay on December 30, 2019, 10:21:20 AM

Quote from: cuarc001 on December 29, 2019, 10:51:13 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on December 29, 2019, 10:10:31 AM

Quote from: cuarc001 on December 28, 2019, 10:59:48 PM

1) Strictly on the part about the 'exec rac' switching from the 37Mil requirement over to 'not being linked', that is a bug in this first version, but note, its not the kind of bug affecting PODC or payments (its a client glitch on the display purposes only). You can get around it by rebooting the client or waiting four hours (then exec rac will work again). Im trying to get that fixed as a leisure asap.

2) So Im looking at your coinage reqs. Since you arent on team bbp, thats why the req is so high (37 mil). Yes, we are supposed to put you in the leaderboard with a commensurate low reward, but I see we have a minimum threshhold (I honestly dont remember doing that, but for now we have it because its the consensus for the sancs). So here is how the two step phase works: On Non-Team BBP, we check your req, and 54000 rac reqs 37Mil in coin-age. Then we reduce your minimum RAC req (after we see you didnt make it), to 4368 RAC. Then we see if you have a coin age of 667,501 BBP (but you didnt meet that), so that explains why you are not in the leaderboard. Note, that if you send out a GSC, you will show up in the leaderboard in about 5-7 blocks, as long as you satisfy the req. So if possible, if you join team BBP, what would happen is the req would drop to 53.9K for 4368 (after missing the first) and you would be in the leaderboard. This also explains why you have not received podc rewards (you must be in the leaderboard to get podc rewards).

OK, so since I won't switch teams (as I am a team captain) then my only option is to set up an Exchange account and purchase more Biblepay to meet the minimum requirements which isn't going to happen either. I don't trust the current exchanges. So, I guess what I need to know now is how to turn off PoDC so that I'm not wasting my BBP with GSC transmissions that won't ever pan out a return. I also see this as an issue that will most likely occur with many BOINC contributors that may be tempted to create wallets. It should also be explained better in the wiki as this seems to be a "dead zone" of sorts.

Also, since there is no Android (or mobile) work to crunch at WCG right now (for a few months now actually) and no ETA on when it will return (scientists have not said when SCC will have work again and WCG has no official plans for Android work on the other sub projects) then isn't it a moot point right now to have a low RAC stipulation for unbanked? Maybe a note needs added to the wiki for this as well.

1) 10-4 on WCG lacking the mobile app. Thank you. 10-4 on the wiki guide. And the dead area on unjoining a project.
2) As far as a moot point for unbanked, I think its a two part deal. MIP is working on making the 'sendgscc wcg' work on the mobile. But yes once he finishes, we will have a challenge to deal with. We'll have to make a post on the WCG threads and ask them if *any* sub projects will ever return for android? If they say no we might as well stop working on that MIP, until we have a better idea. I think its certainly a good feature to have; we should have a coin that is friendly to third world countries who have no bank accounts. Back when our price was higher we calculated that mobile research was enough to live on in a third world country (food only).

3) To unjoin please type: 'exec unjoin wcg'. That should stop the daily gsc transmission.
4) As far as trust, I don't have any reason to not trust SX personally. One way you can minimize the risk is not keeping any latent digital asset on an exchange overnight - just make small trades (IE 100K bbp) and take it out immediately, then repeat etc.

Thanks Rob. As of right now Smash Childhood Cancer (SCC) is supposed to return. They just haven't given an ETA. That is the only sub project with Android apps left. People keep asking in the forums but aren't getting much hope on a new app coming down the pipeline for Android. Allegedly there are two more climate based sub projects in the works but not much has been stated on these and it has been stated that they won't have Android work as it is not suitable for those devices. WCG doesn't actually develop the apps. The scientists that bring their research to WCG is responsible for all of that and they won't open their code to the public for additional help. This is one of the reasons why they have only ever had one GPU application which ended 2 years worth of work in like 6 months. I agree it would be nice to have one for small mobile devices. I actually have ~30 devices on my shelf that are dedicated to DC. Right now, they are working on Universe@home due to the lack of good Bio/Medical projects that support Android and have work for them.

sunk818

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Rob, any update on accountability? accountability.biblepay.org has been missing details after Sep 2019 for revenue & expense.

How do we track how much BBP was donated to charities and the the price of USD (roughly) at the time BBP was given to these charities?

bible_pay

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Jesus is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords

Quote from: pkman999 on December 29, 2019, 10:35:37 PM

Dear ROB / BBP team,

I joined the PODC 2.0 over 2 Days and the RAC and coinage is no any problem.
I checked over 2days no reward. Please help to check. thanks.

CHRISTIAN-PUBLIC-KEY:B6vnmv8QQ87Teuzvaa7M36Nvybe9cxewLE

Adding to what Capulo said,
It looks like you set up your CPID and linked it correctly to your CPK, your rac is 18,100 and you are on team biblepay, and daily reqs are 344K of coin age and you have plenty of BBP in your wallet (and coin age) and you did send your first GSC transmission successfully.
You can find this out by typing:
exec sentgsc B6vnmv8QQ87Teuzvaa7M36Nvybe9cxewLE

See you send 1 out with 328K coin age, so you are good there. I see you are not in the leadeboard today.
It takes 48 hours to get the payment for the one you sent at height 166359, meaning that days work will be in todays superblock (your are #4 in todays superblock payment list).
So all you really have to do now is figure out why your machine is not sending gsc's regulary.
You can type 'sendgscc wcg' now and force one manually.

Maybe you need to leave your node running. They send out automatically at the height shown in 'exec rac'. Once per day.

Good luck.

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Quote from: togoshigekata on December 29, 2019, 03:26:09 PM

The original guide explains coin*age
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC

The guide I've been working on doesn't, just added it in, please review
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup#PART_H:_Calculate_Staking

I dont think it really changes the calculation since PODC is a daily thing and you need that many coins aged 1 day,
But it does affect starting out, because you have to wait a whole day for newly acquired/boughten coins to age to get the full reward

I believe the reasoning behind coin*age is to combat staking abuse (Using the same coins for multiple stakes, for example, in the past, 2 or 3 of us could get together and pass 1 million BBP around in a circle every day and each of us could use those same coins for our staking requirement, not saying I did this, just showing as an example)

Yes, exactly, the original PODC just required the daily coin amount and was eventually shared and manipulated, but now we require coin*age.

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Quote from: cuarc001 on December 29, 2019, 10:51:13 AM

Quote from: bible_pay on December 29, 2019, 10:10:31 AM

Quote from: cuarc001 on December 28, 2019, 10:59:48 PM

1) Strictly on the part about the 'exec rac' switching from the 37Mil requirement over to 'not being linked', that is a bug in this first version, but note, its not the kind of bug affecting PODC or payments (its a client glitch on the display purposes only). You can get around it by rebooting the client or waiting four hours (then exec rac will work again). Im trying to get that fixed as a leisure asap.

2) So Im looking at your coinage reqs. Since you arent on team bbp, thats why the req is so high (37 mil). Yes, we are supposed to put you in the leaderboard with a commensurate low reward, but I see we have a minimum threshhold (I honestly dont remember doing that, but for now we have it because its the consensus for the sancs). So here is how the two step phase works: On Non-Team BBP, we check your req, and 54000 rac reqs 37Mil in coin-age. Then we reduce your minimum RAC req (after we see you didnt make it), to 4368 RAC. Then we see if you have a coin age of 667,501 BBP (but you didnt meet that), so that explains why you are not in the leaderboard. Note, that if you send out a GSC, you will show up in the leaderboard in about 5-7 blocks, as long as you satisfy the req. So if possible, if you join team BBP, what would happen is the req would drop to 53.9K for 4368 (after missing the first) and you would be in the leaderboard. This also explains why you have not received podc rewards (you must be in the leaderboard to get podc rewards).

OK, so since I won't switch teams (as I am a team captain) then my only option is to set up an Exchange account and purchase more Biblepay to meet the minimum requirements which isn't going to happen either. I don't trust the current exchanges. So, I guess what I need to know now is how to turn off PoDC so that I'm not wasting my BBP with GSC transmissions that won't ever pan out a return. I also see this as an issue that will most likely occur with many BOINC contributors that may be tempted to create wallets. It should also be explained better in the wiki as this seems to be a "dead zone" of sorts.

Also, since there is no Android (or mobile) work to crunch at WCG right now (for a few months now actually) and no ETA on when it will return (scientists have not said when SCC will have work again and WCG has no official plans for Android work on the other sub projects) then isn't it a moot point right now to have a low RAC stipulation for unbanked? Maybe a note needs added to the wiki for this as well.

1) 10-4 on WCG lacking the mobile app. Thank you. 10-4 on the wiki guide. And the dead area on unjoining a project.
2) As far as a moot point for unbanked, I think its a two part deal. MIP is working on making the 'sendgscc wcg' work on the mobile. But yes once he finishes, we will have a challenge to deal with. We'll have to make a post on the WCG threads and ask them if *any* sub projects will ever return for android? If they say no we might as well stop working on that MIP, until we have a better idea. I think its certainly a good feature to have; we should have a coin that is friendly to third world countries who have no bank accounts. Back when our price was higher we calculated that mobile research was enough to live on in a third world country (food only).

3) To unjoin please type: 'exec unjoin wcg'. That should stop the daily gsc transmission.
4) As far as trust, I don't have any reason to not trust SX personally. One way you can minimize the risk is not keeping any latent digital asset on an exchange overnight - just make small trades (IE 100K bbp) and take it out immediately, then repeat etc.

capulo

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if somebody needs few coins to start (200-300 etc) just send me message, i'll send you
write me your cpk

i prefer personal message (not to spam here)

capulo

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Quote from: pkman999 on December 29, 2019, 10:35:37 PM

Dear ROB / BBP team,

I joined the PODC 2.0 over 2 Days and the RAC and coinage is no any problem.
I checked over 2days no reward. Please help to check. thanks.

https://imgur.com/SS5fIhb

CHRISTIAN-PUBLIC-KEY:B6vnmv8QQ87Teuzvaa7M36Nvybe9cxewLE

i see only one sendgscc yesterday from this cpk. it may take up to 48h to get reward, if you missed voting for next block you need to wait day for another voting and second day for reward
buti think you will be on payout bill today
but now your sendgscc is 30h old, it is too much, validity for one is 24h so if voting was in this 6h window, then you will be out
you need to send at least 1 sendgscc per day

sunk818

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Welcome new BiblePay team members:

mravac
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pkman999

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Dear ROB / BBP team,

I joined the PODC 2.0 over 2 Days and the RAC and coinage is no any problem.
I checked over 2days no reward. Please help to check. thanks.

https://imgur.com/SS5fIhb

CHRISTIAN-PUBLIC-KEY:B6vnmv8QQ87Teuzvaa7M36Nvybe9cxewLE

togoshigekata

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The original guide explains coin*age
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC

The guide I've been working on doesn't, just added it in, please review
https://wiki.biblepay.org/PODC_Setup#PART_H:_Calculate_Staking

I dont think it really changes the calculation since PODC is a daily thing and you need that many coins aged 1 day,
But it does affect starting out, because you have to wait a whole day for newly acquired/boughten coins to age to get the full reward

I believe the reasoning behind coin*age is to combat staking abuse (Using the same coins for multiple stakes, for example, in the past, 2 or 3 of us could get together and pass 1 million BBP around in a circle every day and each of us could use those same coins for our staking requirement, not saying I did this, just showing as an example)

MIP

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It seems SouthXchange added a 9th decimal to all its BTC markets.

So we can now trade BBP with a finer grain spread.

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